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I heard the club is being renamed to Brisbane Roar because of the fact Gold Coast Galaxy and North Queensland Thunder will also be Queensland Teams. Probably to early to rename article. ronan.evans ( talk) 12:43, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Anyone know the colours of the away kit? I just had a stab at it, not sure if it's right. -- Jimar 13:30, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
They are generally white but having seen a couple of them they all have a little colour in them. I think there may be two away designs shared by the club (4 & 4 is the split). They are in the shops now . --
Tancred 00:01, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
Guys, we have them in blue at the moment, but I'm pretty sure they were in white at the weekend. Luther Blissett 05:45, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
All A-League teams away strip are white. The only thing that differentiates them are the club colours on the neck and arms of the shirt.
Stu Mclaren's position is central back. Although he is about to leave the club due to work commitments very shortly.
He was played up front, but his position is defensive midfielder. Another who will probably leave the club shortly.
Reinaldo Elias da Costa never played for Corinthians. Actually, he played for another team called Corinthians: Corinthians Alagoano, a club from Alagoas state. Read this link. The link has a brief biography of the player before his move to Queensland. It is Portuguese, unfortunately. I fixed the article. Regards, Carioca 20:30, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi all. I've restructured this article, according to the guidelines at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football. Please help expand the sections that are empty or lacking in content. Also, please discuss the proposal to merge the article on former players into the 'Noted players' section. Normally, this would only include players who have had a significant impact (e.g. played over 100 games), but with only one season under their belt, most/all former players can be included. Fedgin 20:36, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone have any details on the club's history pre-A-League, i.e. original formation, pre-NSL, NSL, Brisbane Premier League etc.? Football in this country did not magically appear with the creation of the A-League, so it would be nice to have some information from the "prehistoric times", before football was cool. Greekfire 11:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree, this article is stupid. Queensland roar has been around since 1957 under the names Hollandia, Brisbane Lions and Queensland Lions, why is there no history on the past of club. There is no other football club on wikipedia which has so little on its history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.180.38 ( talk) 11:11, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Several years later and still nothing? Surely there's some info about the team somewhere. 86.135.127.43 ( talk) 16:07, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Surely the Roar is not as old as perported. It was a new club when formed, it was never the Queensland Lions playing at a higher level as it was only an ownership investment unlike Perth and Adelaide who have not changed at all since NSL days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.176.105.147 ( talk) 08:58, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Should we indicate how many home matches were played by each Brisbane team? For example, I’m sure the Queensland Reds didn’t play as many home games as Queensland Roar. -- Executive.koala 11:59, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/78980,stripped-exclusive-pictures-of-new-aleague-strips.aspx
Official kits for A-League 2007-08. Please do not revert The Frederick 15:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Stuart McLaren is Scottish and Hyuk Su-Seo is South Korean but both are shown in the players list with Australian flags alongside their names. Anyone know how to change this? Awotam 12:27, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
In regards to Sergio van Dijk, I request that his nationality stop being changed. The nationality flag, at least with my understanding, represents the nation FIFA recognizes the player as being eligible to represent. While yes Sergio does have Indonesian heritage I have read that he is ineligible to represent Indonesia because of residency issues. Could someone please help me confirm this as I believe he should only have a Netherlands nationality flag attached to his name. Trent McCrow ( talk) 03:25, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Is there a demand for a history of the club page as there is alot of history stuff, alot of figures, previous season positions, stats, etc. Think it is definitely worth looking into. Alexsanderson83 ( talk) 06:48, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Good idea. Portillo ( talk) 10:29, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Towards the end of last year someone deleted the Notable Former Players section due to it not having a clear induction policy. I have remade it, deleteing some of the players that were on there, who in my eyes were not notable. I have also cleaned it up, and made it more presentable then what it was last time. Nath1991 ( talk) 23:30, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Most of the A-league team articles are made up of mostly statistics and records. I'd like to propose that a seperate page be crated to keep track of these things and have a sumerisiong paragraph that links to the main records article. Trent McCrow ( talk) 23:51, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Good idea. Portillo ( talk) 10:24, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Agree. Is anyone working on this??? It's been 8 months since it was suggested and two months since it was tagged... Ck786 ( talk) 21:32, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
On the 2011-12 season page under fixtures i've noticed that there are country flags on each of the teams as opposed to the team coulours as used previously. I've just loaded the fixtures onto the Wellington Phoenix page but haven't included the flags as i'm not sure which ones to use. Can anybody clear this up? Thanks in advance Pereirab04 ( talk) 01:49, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
There is a clear need to define precisely what leagues and/or sports are included in the otherwise vague 35-match record for an unbeaten streak in "any Australian code". It is known (for example) that this record includes the VFL/AFL history, but excludes the SANFL, WAFL, etc., which have at times in their history been roughly equal in standard to the VFL; likewise the BRL as compared with the NSWRL/ARL/NRL. Are national soccer league predecessors to the A-League included? Is it just team sports? Aspirex ( talk) 08:50, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
It is just team sports as the streak defines "unbeaten streak for an Australian club". National Soccer League streaks are included, hence the 27 game unbeaten streak by APIA Leichardt being included, which did the rounds in the media when the team surpassed it. All top level codes in Rugby League and AFL are included. Protenpinner ( talk) 19:55, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello i was wandering if i could have the consent to adding Melbourne victory as a rival not only were melbourne the only team not to lose to roar while they were on there unbeaten streak they were also the only team to beat the roar in the 2010-11 season.Ange signing with MV will no doubt add to this and there will be big crowds for the games next season. I no as a personal fact the two sets of fans hate each other.
Something like this, Feel free to edit.
Although a good idea, there isn't much there to begin with. I can see where you're coming from but the being the only team to beat the Roar in the streak and 11/12 season doesn't make a rivalry, neither does one coach defecting from one club to the other. The fans can hate each other, and it's a known fact they do for a number of reasons, but that's really the only rivalry. A rivalry isn't created from the stands. Protenpinner ( talk) 09:55, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
Hmm i would say a rivalry is a mix of things with the fans being the key but ok we'll see how it goes next season and thank you for replying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.221.225.80 ( talk) 11:14, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
In this and several other articles Macktheknifeau has unilaterally changed the word "Socceroos" to "Australia national association football team". (Sometimes with the word "player" tacked on for sanity, but hardly for clarity and simplicity.) I see these changes as pointy, confrontational, and not in line with the agreed naming of Soccer in Australia There is a centralised discussion on this matter underway at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Football in Australia)#Macktheknifeau doing sweeping, pointy changes again. HiLo48 ( talk) 22:52, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Why is Jamie Young down as English in the squad section? He moved to England from Australia when he was 16/17, which makes him an Australian first, surely? Not sure why he's got "English football players" cat on his player page either to be honest - I suppose he might have citizenship. HornetMike ( talk) 17:24, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
I'm confused. Is this a Football Club or a Soccer Club? -- Pete ( talk) 17:47, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
The wording "association football" is accurate. Their name is "Brisbane Roar Football Club". That shows they identify themselves as a football club. QuackGuru ( talk) 04:09, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
The first change in this sequence was this edit by 220.239.167.26 which was to replace the word "soccer" with "Association Football". I reverted this and since then two other editors have ignored the BRD cycle and are seeking to impose their POV in opposition to the currently established consensus which was arrived at via RFC as mentioned above. Until and unless that consensus has been changed - and this is not the place to do that - I will continue to insist that the current consensus be respected. We surely do not wish to return to the anarchy and bitter acrimonious fighting that disrupted this topic area before the RFC. - Nick Thorne talk
Should we call Brisbane Roar Football Club:
Well, soccer starts with an s and not an f so it definitely doesn't stand for soccer. Simione001 ( talk) 05:52, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
I've kept away from this conversation for a few months now, mainly because I think a decision has been made on Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Football in Australia) and there is no real reason to contest it other than because I don't agree with it. I've said everything I could or needed to say on the subject, but I still have the opinion that the sport should be refereed to as ' association football' on Australian wiki articles. If there is a swell of opinion toward change then I will support it, but otherwise I don't think we should be edit waring on sing articles. We should respect the process taken place even if we don't agree with it.-- 2nyte ( talk) 05:58, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
I would call the Brisbane Roar Football Club an association football club or simply football club. [2] A possible compromise can be an association football (soccer) club or a football (soccer) club but we need a source that says it is also a "soccer" club. QuackGuru ( talk) 19:02, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Not for a second do I agree that association football should be referred to as 'soccer', but as has been said above, you are going about it the wrong way. I think this is ridiculous - for every source you find saying Brisbane Roar is a "football club" you'll find one say it's a "soccer club". Like it or not, in an Austrlian context the word 'soccer' or 'football' is acceptable to refer to association football. However, may I remind you that a rose by any other name would smell as sweet. The change not to use 'soccer' on Australian wiki articles is a valid one but this is not the way and here is not the place to do so.-- 2nyte ( talk) 23:59, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Looking at the various responses, I'm seeing advice to move this to a more appropriate forum. Nick, I've read your comments carefully, I'm seeing a desire to evade any further discussion because you're happy with the status quo, because it's your favoured position. I'm seeing others saying we have a better place for it, and I'm seeing others weary of the discussion. I think, that with the apparent departure of one of the most dogged campaigners, further discussion would be more focussed on the issue and not on personalities. This isn't an issue that's going to go away. Because it hasn't, and the reason for that is that there hasn't been any real consensus. I think that this discussion should be continued at a higher level. Comments? -- Pete ( talk) 18:41, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
It appears editors are having a difficult time following V policy. Following the source should matter. What is the argument for keeping unsourced text? QuackGuru ( talk) 00:28, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Just to clarify, official names of organisations are not affected by the current naming conventions. No-one suggests that BR's full name is anything other than Brisbane Roar Football Club, just as we don't call other organisations Football (soccer) Federation Australia or Australian Australian rules football League. -- Chuq (talk) 04:09, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
See. [3] [4] QuackGuru ( talk) 01:38, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
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I heard the club is being renamed to Brisbane Roar because of the fact Gold Coast Galaxy and North Queensland Thunder will also be Queensland Teams. Probably to early to rename article. ronan.evans ( talk) 12:43, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Anyone know the colours of the away kit? I just had a stab at it, not sure if it's right. -- Jimar 13:30, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
They are generally white but having seen a couple of them they all have a little colour in them. I think there may be two away designs shared by the club (4 & 4 is the split). They are in the shops now . --
Tancred 00:01, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
Guys, we have them in blue at the moment, but I'm pretty sure they were in white at the weekend. Luther Blissett 05:45, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
All A-League teams away strip are white. The only thing that differentiates them are the club colours on the neck and arms of the shirt.
Stu Mclaren's position is central back. Although he is about to leave the club due to work commitments very shortly.
He was played up front, but his position is defensive midfielder. Another who will probably leave the club shortly.
Reinaldo Elias da Costa never played for Corinthians. Actually, he played for another team called Corinthians: Corinthians Alagoano, a club from Alagoas state. Read this link. The link has a brief biography of the player before his move to Queensland. It is Portuguese, unfortunately. I fixed the article. Regards, Carioca 20:30, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi all. I've restructured this article, according to the guidelines at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football. Please help expand the sections that are empty or lacking in content. Also, please discuss the proposal to merge the article on former players into the 'Noted players' section. Normally, this would only include players who have had a significant impact (e.g. played over 100 games), but with only one season under their belt, most/all former players can be included. Fedgin 20:36, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone have any details on the club's history pre-A-League, i.e. original formation, pre-NSL, NSL, Brisbane Premier League etc.? Football in this country did not magically appear with the creation of the A-League, so it would be nice to have some information from the "prehistoric times", before football was cool. Greekfire 11:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree, this article is stupid. Queensland roar has been around since 1957 under the names Hollandia, Brisbane Lions and Queensland Lions, why is there no history on the past of club. There is no other football club on wikipedia which has so little on its history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.180.38 ( talk) 11:11, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Several years later and still nothing? Surely there's some info about the team somewhere. 86.135.127.43 ( talk) 16:07, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Surely the Roar is not as old as perported. It was a new club when formed, it was never the Queensland Lions playing at a higher level as it was only an ownership investment unlike Perth and Adelaide who have not changed at all since NSL days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.176.105.147 ( talk) 08:58, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Should we indicate how many home matches were played by each Brisbane team? For example, I’m sure the Queensland Reds didn’t play as many home games as Queensland Roar. -- Executive.koala 11:59, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/78980,stripped-exclusive-pictures-of-new-aleague-strips.aspx
Official kits for A-League 2007-08. Please do not revert The Frederick 15:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Stuart McLaren is Scottish and Hyuk Su-Seo is South Korean but both are shown in the players list with Australian flags alongside their names. Anyone know how to change this? Awotam 12:27, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
In regards to Sergio van Dijk, I request that his nationality stop being changed. The nationality flag, at least with my understanding, represents the nation FIFA recognizes the player as being eligible to represent. While yes Sergio does have Indonesian heritage I have read that he is ineligible to represent Indonesia because of residency issues. Could someone please help me confirm this as I believe he should only have a Netherlands nationality flag attached to his name. Trent McCrow ( talk) 03:25, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Is there a demand for a history of the club page as there is alot of history stuff, alot of figures, previous season positions, stats, etc. Think it is definitely worth looking into. Alexsanderson83 ( talk) 06:48, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Good idea. Portillo ( talk) 10:29, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Towards the end of last year someone deleted the Notable Former Players section due to it not having a clear induction policy. I have remade it, deleteing some of the players that were on there, who in my eyes were not notable. I have also cleaned it up, and made it more presentable then what it was last time. Nath1991 ( talk) 23:30, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Most of the A-league team articles are made up of mostly statistics and records. I'd like to propose that a seperate page be crated to keep track of these things and have a sumerisiong paragraph that links to the main records article. Trent McCrow ( talk) 23:51, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Good idea. Portillo ( talk) 10:24, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Agree. Is anyone working on this??? It's been 8 months since it was suggested and two months since it was tagged... Ck786 ( talk) 21:32, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
On the 2011-12 season page under fixtures i've noticed that there are country flags on each of the teams as opposed to the team coulours as used previously. I've just loaded the fixtures onto the Wellington Phoenix page but haven't included the flags as i'm not sure which ones to use. Can anybody clear this up? Thanks in advance Pereirab04 ( talk) 01:49, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
There is a clear need to define precisely what leagues and/or sports are included in the otherwise vague 35-match record for an unbeaten streak in "any Australian code". It is known (for example) that this record includes the VFL/AFL history, but excludes the SANFL, WAFL, etc., which have at times in their history been roughly equal in standard to the VFL; likewise the BRL as compared with the NSWRL/ARL/NRL. Are national soccer league predecessors to the A-League included? Is it just team sports? Aspirex ( talk) 08:50, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
It is just team sports as the streak defines "unbeaten streak for an Australian club". National Soccer League streaks are included, hence the 27 game unbeaten streak by APIA Leichardt being included, which did the rounds in the media when the team surpassed it. All top level codes in Rugby League and AFL are included. Protenpinner ( talk) 19:55, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello i was wandering if i could have the consent to adding Melbourne victory as a rival not only were melbourne the only team not to lose to roar while they were on there unbeaten streak they were also the only team to beat the roar in the 2010-11 season.Ange signing with MV will no doubt add to this and there will be big crowds for the games next season. I no as a personal fact the two sets of fans hate each other.
Something like this, Feel free to edit.
Although a good idea, there isn't much there to begin with. I can see where you're coming from but the being the only team to beat the Roar in the streak and 11/12 season doesn't make a rivalry, neither does one coach defecting from one club to the other. The fans can hate each other, and it's a known fact they do for a number of reasons, but that's really the only rivalry. A rivalry isn't created from the stands. Protenpinner ( talk) 09:55, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
Hmm i would say a rivalry is a mix of things with the fans being the key but ok we'll see how it goes next season and thank you for replying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.221.225.80 ( talk) 11:14, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
In this and several other articles Macktheknifeau has unilaterally changed the word "Socceroos" to "Australia national association football team". (Sometimes with the word "player" tacked on for sanity, but hardly for clarity and simplicity.) I see these changes as pointy, confrontational, and not in line with the agreed naming of Soccer in Australia There is a centralised discussion on this matter underway at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Football in Australia)#Macktheknifeau doing sweeping, pointy changes again. HiLo48 ( talk) 22:52, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Why is Jamie Young down as English in the squad section? He moved to England from Australia when he was 16/17, which makes him an Australian first, surely? Not sure why he's got "English football players" cat on his player page either to be honest - I suppose he might have citizenship. HornetMike ( talk) 17:24, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
I'm confused. Is this a Football Club or a Soccer Club? -- Pete ( talk) 17:47, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
The wording "association football" is accurate. Their name is "Brisbane Roar Football Club". That shows they identify themselves as a football club. QuackGuru ( talk) 04:09, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
The first change in this sequence was this edit by 220.239.167.26 which was to replace the word "soccer" with "Association Football". I reverted this and since then two other editors have ignored the BRD cycle and are seeking to impose their POV in opposition to the currently established consensus which was arrived at via RFC as mentioned above. Until and unless that consensus has been changed - and this is not the place to do that - I will continue to insist that the current consensus be respected. We surely do not wish to return to the anarchy and bitter acrimonious fighting that disrupted this topic area before the RFC. - Nick Thorne talk
Should we call Brisbane Roar Football Club:
Well, soccer starts with an s and not an f so it definitely doesn't stand for soccer. Simione001 ( talk) 05:52, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
I've kept away from this conversation for a few months now, mainly because I think a decision has been made on Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Football in Australia) and there is no real reason to contest it other than because I don't agree with it. I've said everything I could or needed to say on the subject, but I still have the opinion that the sport should be refereed to as ' association football' on Australian wiki articles. If there is a swell of opinion toward change then I will support it, but otherwise I don't think we should be edit waring on sing articles. We should respect the process taken place even if we don't agree with it.-- 2nyte ( talk) 05:58, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
I would call the Brisbane Roar Football Club an association football club or simply football club. [2] A possible compromise can be an association football (soccer) club or a football (soccer) club but we need a source that says it is also a "soccer" club. QuackGuru ( talk) 19:02, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Not for a second do I agree that association football should be referred to as 'soccer', but as has been said above, you are going about it the wrong way. I think this is ridiculous - for every source you find saying Brisbane Roar is a "football club" you'll find one say it's a "soccer club". Like it or not, in an Austrlian context the word 'soccer' or 'football' is acceptable to refer to association football. However, may I remind you that a rose by any other name would smell as sweet. The change not to use 'soccer' on Australian wiki articles is a valid one but this is not the way and here is not the place to do so.-- 2nyte ( talk) 23:59, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Looking at the various responses, I'm seeing advice to move this to a more appropriate forum. Nick, I've read your comments carefully, I'm seeing a desire to evade any further discussion because you're happy with the status quo, because it's your favoured position. I'm seeing others saying we have a better place for it, and I'm seeing others weary of the discussion. I think, that with the apparent departure of one of the most dogged campaigners, further discussion would be more focussed on the issue and not on personalities. This isn't an issue that's going to go away. Because it hasn't, and the reason for that is that there hasn't been any real consensus. I think that this discussion should be continued at a higher level. Comments? -- Pete ( talk) 18:41, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
It appears editors are having a difficult time following V policy. Following the source should matter. What is the argument for keeping unsourced text? QuackGuru ( talk) 00:28, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Just to clarify, official names of organisations are not affected by the current naming conventions. No-one suggests that BR's full name is anything other than Brisbane Roar Football Club, just as we don't call other organisations Football (soccer) Federation Australia or Australian Australian rules football League. -- Chuq (talk) 04:09, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
See. [3] [4] QuackGuru ( talk) 01:38, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
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From Suncorp to Redcliffe. Train on tje Gold Coast, play in Redcliffe. From Berisha to Lescano. From Broich to ???. So dismal i cant enjoy to even watch on TV...i mean paramount. Shambles. 139.216.214.237 ( talk) 11:13, 4 May 2022 (UTC)