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There is no mention of environment. Surely there are some environmental issues affecting Brisbane. I'm sure there are some. The Brisbane River article makes mention of some of them. And which government agencies are responsible for the environment in Brisbane ? -- Biatch ( talk) 04:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
As it stands the artcle states: "The first European settlement in Queensland was a penal colony at Redcliffe, 28 kilometres (17 mi) north of Brisbane"
Redcliffe may be 28kms from Brisbane city centre but it is much closer to Brisbane city which stretches out to Brighton. The closest Redcliffe suburb to Brisbane (Clontarf) is actually only 3km from the closest Brisbane suburb to Redclffe (Brighton).
This wording needs to be changed. IAmCylon ( talk) 22:38, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Do we need a climate graph and a climate chart? Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk)
We used to have one. What the hell hapenned to it? IAmCylon ( talk) 22:33, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
cli⋅mate /ˈklaɪmɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [klahy-mit] Use climate in a Sentence –noun 1. the composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation, sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a series of years. Gcampton ( talk) 03:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure why, but the image BrisbaneRiver02 gobeirne-edit1.jpg doesn't load up properly on this page. At least it doesn't on my pc. It stays blank for a long time before it shows up. Usually it's blank for the first few minutes after opening the page. My Internet broadband is very fast, and my pc is fast. I don't think they're to blame here as I don't have problems like this on any other page/website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.46.240 ( talk) 15:15, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
"In 1925, the City of Brisbane Act was passed by the Queensland Government, abolishing 20 local government authorities in the city and forming the largest local authority in Australia,[6] with a population of over a million."
I read this sentence as saying that the area covered by the City of Brisbane had a population of over 1m in 1925. I find this implausible. Please provide a source that demonstrates this or clarify what the sentence means. Thanks, Mattinbgn\ talk 04:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Is Brisbane CA a sister city? I looked at the reference and there is no mention of this. On the Brisbane CA page there is also no reference for this. Please correct as I don't know how to make a [citation required] thing appear
cheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.78.22.91 ( talk) 15:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I found it
http://www.ci.brisbane.ca.us/html/about/fact.asp —Preceding
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122.148.98.116 (
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11:08, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Reading other Australian city entries alot of them have a link to the city's tourist website. Would it be advisable to list Brisbane's?
www.visitbrisbane.com.au
Ascough ( talk) 05:28, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
It is so very annoying when each of these 3 stats are taken from different sites. On this page we have have a reference for each item, which means no one of them can be changed without a reference. If we assume that the population and the area are correct, because based on figures for the LGAs, they fit, then the density is miles out. I have tried and failed to rectify this by simply calculating the correct density using the given population and area figures, and hoping that no one will change it back.
If someone can find a site which has all 3 stats on it, and they all match up, then I would love it if they'd put them in, because I can't find one. Why can't any one see that chaning it back to incorrect figures, is really stupid?? VanillaBear23 ( talk) 10:23, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Is Brisbane really on a floodplain or just the north east quarter of the city? Considering that the Taylor Range has a spur that reaches the CBD from the west and there are a number of mountains, numerous hilly areas and ridges as well as cliffs along the river it can hardly be described as a floodplain. No citation has been provided for the claim regarding a floodplain but there is a citation for the hilly description.
Also the location description as being between the Great Dividing Range and Moreton Bay is not that accurate. Travelling west from Brisbane the Little Liverpool Range and the D'Aguilar Range are crossed before reaching the Great Dividing Range. Any thoughts? - Shiftchange ( talk) 12:26, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Should the overhead photograph state that it is looking Eastward? Being very familiar with Brisbane, even I was confused at first, having just assumed it was facing North.
Therealfindo ( talk) 20:25, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
where it says brisbane's LGA has a population of a million in the intro needs to be removed. None of the other aust cities give details on the population of the central LGA so its very inconsistent. Also, this article is NOT on the brisbane city council (LGA), but the metropilatan area of brisbane, which includes several different council LGAs, so including this figure here is very confusing. I have tried editing this, but it has been changed. Please revert the article to the consistent standard for Australian cities in this regard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 03:10, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
nope. we dont need to think about what in your opinion should be included, or which LGAs. the aust bureau of statistics does that for us. this is an article of brisbanes metropolitan area as defined by the ABS, just as every single other article on australian cities is. end of discussion. —Preceding
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211.31.63.196 (
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11:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
No, the GC and sunshine coast are NOT included in the stat division of brisbane. im sorry, youre going to have to concede defeat on this one. look at the map from the ABS, brisbanes metro area is defined as going from caboolture to logan and out to ipswich. all other aust cities use the ABS definition for their articles and population counts, so for consistency and officiality, we are doing the same. Do not attempt to go against the convention which has been used for every other Aust city. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 08:01, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
there is a very clear way of doing things on wikipedia in these situations, and that is to FOLLOW CONVENTION and CONSISTENCY. looking at every single other article for an australian city, the articles are defined as the ABS's definition of a metro area. LGAs (ie the LGA of sydney) have their own separate articles eg "sydney city council". An LGA (or city council) and a city whole, or metropolitan area, are very distinct entities. whoever is reverting this back to include the LGA, please stop, as there is a clear convention in all the other australian city articles, and on wikipedia, that is what we go by in this situation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 08:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
http://www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/ABSNavigation/prenav/LocationSearch?locationLastSearchTerm=brisbane&locationSearchTerm=brisbane&newarea=305&collection=Census&period=2006&areacode=&geography=&method=&productlabel=&producttype=&topic=&navmapdisplayed=true&javascript=true&breadcrumb=L&topholder=0&leftholder=0¤taction=104&action=104&textversion=false&subaction=2 this link shows the map of the brisbane metro area as defined by the ABS, it does not include gold or sunshine coasts so no need to mention that. this is the SD as defined by the ABS, this is what, based on convention of all other articles of cities in australia, we define this article as being. so please do not revert to unconventionally and confusingly including the LGA. this puts the issue to rest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 08:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
nope, sorry. look at the sydney, melbourne, or perth articles. they are all pictures of the CBD (inside LGAs too). i agree, add some history and geo of the other parts. the reason its not there is that unlike other aust cities, the BCC covers almost half of brisbane, whereas in most others like syd and melb the central LGA covers only a little. were going to stick to the traditional definition of the metro area here. read the rules of wikipedia. if in doubt, follow convention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 10:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
a possible compromise:
Brisbane ( /ˈbrɪzbən/ [1]) is the capital and most populous city in the Australian state of Queensland. Brisbane's metropolitan area has a population predicted to be 2,000,000 by the Australian Bureau of Statitstics, making it the third most populous city in Australia. [2] Brisbane's Local Government Area, which, unlike those of other Australian capitals, includes the greater part of the metropolitan area, is Australia's largest by population.
this includes a link to and introduction of the Brisbane city council LGA, but does not compromise the convention of australian cities articles refering to the official ABS definition.
A more concise alternative would be
Brisbane ( /ˈbrɪzbən/ [3]) is the capital and most populous city in the Australian state of Queensland. With a metropolitan area of 2,000,000 people and a central Local Government Area comprising half of that, it is the third most populous city, and most populous Local Government Area in Australia.
pick and choose.
ok we go with the first one. there is already an article on the brisbane LGA brisbane city council, if you feel that theres not enough on the four other LGAs that are within the brisbane metro area, INCLUDE MORE in the history and geo section, do not try changing the subject of the article to be inconsistent with every other major city article. Take the first option then as a compromise, and i guess the notice at the top about the dispute can be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 11:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Go to the melbourne or sydney article and look at their temperatures. do u see any from frankstown, parramatta, kooyong, south sydney, any of THEIR other LGAs? NO. PS in the compromised intro where it says local govt area in the sentence links to the brisbane city council LGA article, a SEPERATE ARTICLE on the LGA. if not anything else, that should make it clear that THIS article is not on the LGA, but on the official brisbane metro area.we found a compromise. lets leave it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 11:34, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
here is a map of brisbanes metro area. as you can see, there is no stop around the BCC area, everything is a full mass from caboolture to ipswich to beenleigh.
http://www.coastshop.com.au/maps/road/QLD%20brisbane%20region.jpg
here is a map showing the boundaries of the BCC. you see where im coming from now dont you...........
http://www.discoverbrisbane.com/maps/brisbane.gif —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 12:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Those who consider this article should be about the LGA rather than the Brisbane metro area (which does not include the Gold and Sunshine coasts - that is a particularly egregious piece of misinformation) have a responsibility to ensure that this article does not veer into cherry-picking information about the metro area for inclusion. As it stands, the whole Demographics section (which is based on the ABS definition of Brisbane that the LGA-ists here reject) needs to be removed in its entirety. If you reject the ABS definition of Brisbane then you cannot use the statistics that the ABS provide using that definition. Again, this article is trying to have it both ways. I think the consensus here is utterly wrong-headed but given that it exists, those who support it should endeavour to make the article internally consistent. -- Mattinbgn\ talk 20:43, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Are there articles for the syd or melb metro area? simple answer is no. all articles refering to australian cities on wikipedia refer to metro areas. im sorry, shiftchange, but you're going to have to put your own personal opinion aside, and do this the official, conventional way. You cant have all other aust city articles refering to metro area and ours going to council. are you implying brisbane is in fact the 5th largest city after perth and adelaide? this would be the case in your definition. you may have a personal definition but the fact is that ABS is the standard in australia and is used in all other articles. there is ALREADY an article on the brisbane LGA. you may improve or make a new one if you want, but the article that links simple to Brisbane remains the metro area --- its time to put personal opinions aside and go with the official definition. If someone asks what the population of brisbane is youll say its the 3rd largest in aust and has 2 mill, not the 5th largest with 1 mill. to change this article youd be going against every single reference to our city and every official definition and convention used on the subject in this country. Saruman-the-White —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 07:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
i have added a link at the top of the page stating this article is about the metro area (as with all other aust cities) and provided a link to the LGA of the same name. As stated by convention, anything relating to the BCC LGA goes in there. Saruman-the-white —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 07:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Dear shiftchange, when an article says something like 100km from brisbane, they mean from the brisbane CBD. Brisbane is actually also a suburb with the postcode 4000. same as if i say 900km from sydney theyre talking from the CBD. So yes, some national parks may be part of the brisbane metro area and it could be eful to include this, but technically its still correct that wherever is however many km from brisbane, just as its true southbank is 1 km south of brisbane (CBD). Also, its not all of the LGAs that are included, by the i mean the whole area. So for example, where it says scenic rim is included in the brisbane LGA, if you go to the ABS site to see how the brisbane metro area is defined (they have a map) youll see only a very tiny section is included of the scenic rim LGA. so some of those places you mentioned arent actually part of the brisbane metro area at all. some may indeed be located in the brisbane metro area, and i could help adding this to the relevent articles if necessary (you know much of the blue mountains, gosford, katoomba nat'l parks are in the sydney metro area too). But yes, the fact remains that a wiki article when linked directly to the name of an aust city doesnt go to the suburb, ie brisbane 4000, qld, or sydney 2000 nsw, the LGA, ie bris city council, sydney city council, but the metro area. PS. i did put on our compromised intro, but its since been changed (now says a lot about the denonym ie. brisbanite, "brisvegan" .. i didnt do this by the way). i will sign up for a user name yes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 06:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Like most Australian cities, we need to be careful when using the term Brisbane, in both articles and in reading references. Brisbane refers to a capital city, an LGA, a business district, a postal area (Brisbane 4000) and so on. All of these uses have different borders and exist in different contexts. Changing the terms of the lead of this one article will not remove the confusion. This is true of most large Australian cities.
The link Shiftchange provided isn't clear on what 'Brisbane' it's referring to. I'm sure Google will yield hundreds of results for all the uses. This would be the problem which lead to the creation of the ASGC as well as the consensus of the terms of reference to all other Australian cities in Wikipedia. -- AtD ( talk) 10:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
hi shiftchange, here is the link with a map showing the abs and australian standard geographical classification definition of brisbane metro area, used in censuses, price indexes, govt stats, city GDP calculations, workforce, etc. http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/subscriber.nsf/0/8EA943A639BE6767CA2576320019FDC1/$File/12160_jul%202009_qld%20maps.pdf i also provided another link to another copy of this map earlier, zoomed into just the brisbane SD on the census data page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 10:54, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
hi shiftchange, in fact a TINY proportion of the scenic rim council is defined as being in the brisbane metro area (a strip on the very easternmost part). As far as temp is concerned, the temperatures listed are actually refering to Brisbane CBD (postcode 2000), which is chosen as a (usually) central location of a metro area from which to take figures on climate. indeed, there will be suburbs within and outside the BCC LGA that have recorded lower temperatures, but because it would be very complex to have to include CBD, some bayside suburbs, nothern, western, southern, etc. articles for any city tend just to use the CBD as a simple, supposedly central, point of reference. in sydney it is not central but in the far east, and the outer western suburbs of sydney get far hotter and far colder (much more difference than anything in brisbane) but, call it illogical (i might even be inclined to agree), but its just a simple point of reference.
To the Brisbane City Council article, youre right, its very confusing. Upon closer observation of the article, it is in fact in the category "LGAs in queensland" and is linked (at the bottom with the list) to the LGA for "City of brisbane" also the table at the right side is the same table used for an LGA, with area, population etc, the name of the table even was "city of brisbane" -- clearly this is an article on the city of brisbane, rather than the BCC. All it took me was to change a few references and the article is now in line with all other LGA articles, which it is listed as one, and refers to the city of brisbane, and is primarily about the LGA, with a large section called "Governance" --- to do this i looked at the models of other LGA articles, such as the city of sydney and the city of melbourne, it was, but for the name, already largely in line with these. This should clear a lot of the ambiguity, and makes it a lot more consistant. Granted, the article is not particularly detailed, but looking at the articles for other LGAs, it does indeed appear highly detailed (and much longer). That article was really about the LGA and was listed as an LGA article, but under the name of the governing authority rather than the name of the LGA. i have fixed these things up to put it in line with the other LGA articles, and in time hope to change the name of the article to "City of Brisbane", as all other LGA articles are named, and have "Brisbane City Council" redirect to it (the section on governance) -- this is what is done in other LGA articles, ie city of sydney, city of melbourne. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 07:17, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
should the info box picture have multiple images in it as it does in Melbourne and Perth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.98.116 ( talk) 05:12, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
No one else seems to want one, but I made a very rough one anyway. I'm not from Brisbane so probably didn't select the best things to put into this, which is why I made a very rough one as a test.
Like I said, this is a very rough one (The borders are quite messy, and the pictures could be better), but I thought I'd show it to you to see if it is what you were thinking. We are the only 3 who seem to have expressed interest however, and this is since december last year, so I would assume that for now at least, most contributors are happy with the current infobox picture. Anoldtreeok ( talk) 02:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Hey there. thanks a lot for the great montage. i had a lot of time on my hands so i managed to find some pictures already off wiki which didnt have any forms of protection. ive used yours as a basis and added a couple more sites so its in line with the melbourne one. take a look on the main page and tell me if you like. i think the pictures compliment eachother very nicely! thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saruman-the-white ( talk • contribs) 10:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I made the claim that I had time on my hands but then realised I didn't. So sorry I didn't end up following through on making another picture, but the one that is there now is better than I would have made (I was relying on wikipedia to figure out what were the most notable parts of Brisbane). Good work. Anoldtreeok ( talk) 06:51, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys - I work for Brisbane Marketing and we make all of our images available for use. If you want to use any images for the montage please have a look at the following site [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ascough ( talk • contribs) 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
I know Brisbane has a nice skyline and looks great from space, but is there any need for 3 pictures of the skyline and two aerial/satellite photos ? This is an encyclopedia article, so I suggest picking a couple of the best and leaving the rest. -- Biatch ( talk) 00:21, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Not trying to get into the same argument as above, but seeing as the sister cities relations are between Brisbane city council, and not Brisbane as a whole? Looking through the previous discussions, I'm not entirely sure what consensus (if any) has been reached, and sorry if this has been brought up before, just thought I'd bring it up.
Melbourne also does this, but unlike here, there's no debate as to what the article refers to, so it's an even bigger wonder there. Maybe I should raise the question there as well. Anoldtreeok ( talk) 08:37, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
I would like to make the suggestion that this article be moved from
Brisbane to
Brisbane, Queensland so it is in line with the rest of the town and city based articles.
FNQ (
talk)
14:43, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Fairy Nuff... Withdrawn. FNQ ( talk) 23:30, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
no, the only other brisbane is a town of several thousand in california. clearly this is the brisbane that should be given the brisbane name. (also it was the first brisbane) Saruman-the-white ( talk) 11:20, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Oppose. Arguments above. Subtropical-man ( talk) 18:40, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
I would argue for the inclusion of the Brisbane Media Map in the media section. No need to mention it's run by QUT, because the site does not seek to promote QUT (note it's not a QUT domain and has no QUT branding, as it's meant to be a public resource). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Houriganamy ( talk • contribs) 00:17, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
It's common when news is happening that someone adds some current event to an article that will not really be significant months and years later. Amazingly, this article shows the opposite. Currently, Brisbane is under a flood at least as bad as 1974, and the article does not mention it, except one line which uses the deprecated word "recent". Someone who knows some details should update this article. Randall Bart Talk 00:08, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Original statement "1930 was a significant year for Brisbane, with the construction of landmarks that helped define the character of the city. The Story Bridge and Brisbane City Hall, then the city's tallest buildings, were both completed. Additionally, the Shrine of Remembrance, in ANZAC Square, became Brisbane's main war memorial.[22]" in incorrect
The story bridge construction commenced in May 1935 it was completed in June 1940 [4]
paragraph should read along these lines "1930 was a significant year for Brisbane, with the completion of Brisbane City Hall, then the city's tallest building and the Shrine of Remembrance, in ANZAC Square, which has become Brisbane's main war memorial[22]. These historic buildings along with the Story Bridge, opened in 1940 [5] are key landmarks that help define the character of the city. " BEZALEL2000 ( talk) 23:21, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi guys, this page has come along since a few years back but I still think it could be improved. Does anyone feel the same way as me that the montage at the top right could look a little more professional, or possibly to change it to a single image like sydney? Want to see what other people think or if everyone super loves the current setup. Of course its hard when I'm not showing anything to compare it to but I can fix that shortly. Thanks. EzykronHD ( talk) 23:59, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Why are Ipswich, Moreton Bay and Scenic Rim included in this page's infobox as being part of Brisbane. I grew up in Moreton Bay and this is the first time I've heard of those areas as being part of Brisbane. I agree they can be considered part of the South East Queensland agglomeration, as stated in the lead paragraph, but to call them part of Brisbane is misleading. LordVetinari ( talk) 12:59, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Meetup/Brisbane. -- John Vandenberg ( chat) 09:24, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
I was looking at the Urban Map and got a mite confused, UQ's north of QUT, WoE? Somebody needs to either flip the map the correct way round or make a note that it's showing South-North not North-South as you'd expect. 118.208.11.20 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:46, 16 September 2011 (UTC).
Which picture better to infobox?
Pictures to infobox should show the greatest area / whole city, not a few boats and buildings, therefore prefers the second picture (Mount Coot-tha). Also, in the article is already picture from Kangaroo Point (will be two?), no photos from Mount Coot-tha - the second argument for picture from Mount Coot-tha. However, not everyone wants this picture. What is your opinion and arguments? Which picture better to infobox? Subtropical-man ( talk) 14:07, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
First one. kanga point shows icononic angle of skyline. cootha shows worst angle of skyline with least iconic buildings. and no river! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saruman-the-white ( talk • contribs) 15:50, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Most definately from here ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Brisbane_skyline_bluesky.jpg) or here ( http://www.globeimages.net/data/media/34/brisbane_skyline_australia.jpg) as a skyline photo must be from the other side of the river, in order to get in all of the landmark iconic buildings (waterfront, cp1, 111 eagle, riparian, etc). the mt cootha angle gets the shortest and least icononic buildings , and does not show the river, an iconic feature of the city. These are considered the two most defining angles for a skyline shot of brisbane. Saruman-the-white ( talk) 10:24, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
The Climate section in the article is "defeat". Not counting record temperatures and sea temperatures, writes only about natural disasters etc. There is a lack of basic climate information. In a week I change the name section to "natural disasters" ;) You should create a new article Climate of Brisbane, like as Climate of Sydney. In the new article, you can write about the curiosities, example Dust storms from 23 September 2009 etc. Subtropical-man ( talk) 13:52, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Personally I don't believe it belongs on the Brisbane page, as a "Brisbanite" it's an embarrassment, it was started as a joke as we were the "big country town" with one casino and no class. It does not belong on a wiki page, especially being that we are trying to introduce ourselves as a world city, we don't need and the insult on our page. I have removed it. If someone want to put it back incorporate it into another piece of text but it doesn't warrant a sub-catergory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IsabelleF ( talk • contribs) 08:48, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
This image should be used: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brisbane_Skyline_Evening.jpg
It is up to date and gives a much better view of the city. The current image only really shows the Eagle st side. Also at night it looks really cool. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heugfignf ( talk • contribs) 01:09, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Last external link contains virus. 77.105.5.225 ( talk) 01:50, 9 February 2012 (UTC)SERBIA
The article contains photos of the Brisbane skyline that are very out of date, such as the one captioned "the bris skyline, viewed from K. Point, is one of the most extensive in the S. hemisphere". This is most certainly true, however the photo was taken in ~2004, at a time when many (up to a third) of Brisbane's more prominent skyscrapers had not yet been built, and as give an outdated and inaccurate depiction of the skyline.
That angle from Kangaroo Point is indeed easily the best and most iconic, however i wonder if anyone has any more recent ones taken after the competion of soleil, 111 eagle street, skyline appts, etc., buildings which have completely transformed the skyline since then.
That angle is certainly the one to use, but if anyone has a more recent photo to replace that one, and to replace the main title photo (which still shows soleil and 111 eagle with cranes and under construction), that would indeed be good. Many city articles showcase the city's skyline with impressive and "impacting" shots. Given Brisbane's absolutely massive skyline in relation to its size, this would be worth doing here. Saruman-the-white ( talk) 12:54, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
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Please come along to the meetup. John Vandenberg ( chat) 08:06, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
I'm not good at editing but Brisbane will host the G20 leaders summit in 2014 - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-11/queensland-business-community-welcomes-g20/4123680.
This would be a major event worthy of mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.161.75.113 ( talk) 01:22, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
In my opinion, neither the current nor previous infobox image best represents Brisbane. The third one here (CBDandSB) is pretty good... but of the three, the current (from Kangaroo Point) has the poorest quality.
I nominate #1 (Aerial view of the Brisbane CBD (5275318079).jpg) until a better one is loaded to commons. -- Travis Thurston 05:10, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi. My main concern is that the photo should include as much of the skyline is as possible (thus a photo taken from Kangaroo Point is usually the best and most visually appealing bet), also, the photo should have been taken after the completion of Soleil and 111 Eagle St, which have dramatically altered the skyline. The current Kangaroo Point photo is not too bad, although it could certainly be more visually appealing and the angle is not quite right to showcase the full extent of the skyline. The following, which are not my work, exemplify the kind of photo we should use as the title image of this article. They showcase the full skyline accurately, aesthetically, and in an up to date manner. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joebrosnan/6719414841/in/photostream ; http://www.flickr.com/photos/joebrosnan/7751073068/in/photostream ; http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanleykozak/7836945386/sizes/h/in/photostream/ ; http://www.flickr.com/photos/timpoulton/7819285198/sizes/k/in/photostream/ ; http://www.flickr.com/photos/damienryan/7814893794/sizes/h/in/photostream/ . We can clearly do so much better. In addition, the photo of the skyline "bluesky?" in the Geography/urban structure section was taken in 2004 (!!!). This photo is a decade old. We may as well upload one of Brisbane during the war and be done with it. The photo is great, the position is great, but it doesn't reflect the skyline today and should also be changed. -- Saruman-the-white ( talk) 03:23, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Was wondering if anyone would care to make a montage with the following seven images, just to see how it looks? 121.220.222.63 ( talk) 13:46, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
If people feel the one from Kangaroo Point is of poor quality, which I don't think it is (looks mostly clear to me), then perhaps they could replace that one with another in the montage.
Those are some great images and I think they'd potentially make a fantastic montage. I especially like the wheel, illuminated Story bridge and night pano from Mt. Coot-tha. Cuboora ( talk) 15:54, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Yes that was my intention, however if you look at the first image I posted, those buildings are there and up to date as that panorama is very recent. 121.220.222.63 ( talk) 09:24, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
No worries! Here's the two best pics I have from Thursday. I will most likely go back again sometime soon. If anyone has any other ideas or landmarks to capture, let me know. EzykronHD ( talk) 19:25, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Wow, that first one is excellent, well done! Did you notice if that flower was in bloom? 49.176.4.170 ( talk) 07:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
What do people think of this infobox montage? I would of used a day picture for the top, but I need a panorama, Ezykron do you have any panoramas? 49.176.1.101 ( talk) 13:55, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
I think the second pic with the Wheel is overkill, the gardens pic is a little nondescript and uninspiring, the skyline photo really should be a clear one during the day from the iconic kangaroo point view, and the bottom photo is could be anywhere and is unnecesary. I think if you replaced the bottom one with the new kangaroo point skyline/river photo, and replaced the gardens and second daytime wheel of brisbane photos with a flattering one of moreton bay (which has been of great historical importance to brisbane) it could look very good but one concern would be the fact that at such a small size, so many photos could be very hard to see clearly.-- Saruman-the-white ( talk) 03:29, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
How to verify that the books specify the Koppen-Geiger code for the climate? The books are inaccessible, while the map is easily accessible. I was the one who changed the code to Cwa when no one seemed to object, but then realized that it should be Cfa. Now Bidgee is making claims that Cwa is cited in the books! [2] - [3] -- Mahmudmasri ( talk) 11:30, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
You still haven't commented on the main discussion and by the way, the source must be accessible if you are basing your dispute upon.
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OK, would you please capture an image with your mobile phone or scan the page and post it to me to verify that the book says the code is Cwa not Cfa? Also again it was made in other discussions: it is very impractical and near-impossible to have a source stating the climate code for each location on the surface of the earth, that's why there are colored maps. Wikipedia rules are not made to be against practicality and shouldn't be misused to hinder others from positively contributing. -- Mahmudmasri ( talk) 18:00, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I twice removed a list of actors and a director from the "Popular culture" section and it was twice reverted. This section should not be for listing individuals, which should be listed under famous entertainers or notable people. To be honest, I don't think the section should even exist for a city the size of Brisbane, as there is an almost endless list of famous people that could quickly swamp the article.
My suggestion is that we start a List of notable people from Brisbane, and move them there. Similar lists exist for other large cities.
Comments welcome. I won't revert again as it's 2-all now. -- Dmol ( talk) 08:02, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
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There is no mention of environment. Surely there are some environmental issues affecting Brisbane. I'm sure there are some. The Brisbane River article makes mention of some of them. And which government agencies are responsible for the environment in Brisbane ? -- Biatch ( talk) 04:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
As it stands the artcle states: "The first European settlement in Queensland was a penal colony at Redcliffe, 28 kilometres (17 mi) north of Brisbane"
Redcliffe may be 28kms from Brisbane city centre but it is much closer to Brisbane city which stretches out to Brighton. The closest Redcliffe suburb to Brisbane (Clontarf) is actually only 3km from the closest Brisbane suburb to Redclffe (Brighton).
This wording needs to be changed. IAmCylon ( talk) 22:38, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Do we need a climate graph and a climate chart? Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk)
We used to have one. What the hell hapenned to it? IAmCylon ( talk) 22:33, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
cli⋅mate /ˈklaɪmɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [klahy-mit] Use climate in a Sentence –noun 1. the composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation, sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a series of years. Gcampton ( talk) 03:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure why, but the image BrisbaneRiver02 gobeirne-edit1.jpg doesn't load up properly on this page. At least it doesn't on my pc. It stays blank for a long time before it shows up. Usually it's blank for the first few minutes after opening the page. My Internet broadband is very fast, and my pc is fast. I don't think they're to blame here as I don't have problems like this on any other page/website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.46.240 ( talk) 15:15, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
"In 1925, the City of Brisbane Act was passed by the Queensland Government, abolishing 20 local government authorities in the city and forming the largest local authority in Australia,[6] with a population of over a million."
I read this sentence as saying that the area covered by the City of Brisbane had a population of over 1m in 1925. I find this implausible. Please provide a source that demonstrates this or clarify what the sentence means. Thanks, Mattinbgn\ talk 04:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Is Brisbane CA a sister city? I looked at the reference and there is no mention of this. On the Brisbane CA page there is also no reference for this. Please correct as I don't know how to make a [citation required] thing appear
cheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.78.22.91 ( talk) 15:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I found it
http://www.ci.brisbane.ca.us/html/about/fact.asp —Preceding
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122.148.98.116 (
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Reading other Australian city entries alot of them have a link to the city's tourist website. Would it be advisable to list Brisbane's?
www.visitbrisbane.com.au
Ascough ( talk) 05:28, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
It is so very annoying when each of these 3 stats are taken from different sites. On this page we have have a reference for each item, which means no one of them can be changed without a reference. If we assume that the population and the area are correct, because based on figures for the LGAs, they fit, then the density is miles out. I have tried and failed to rectify this by simply calculating the correct density using the given population and area figures, and hoping that no one will change it back.
If someone can find a site which has all 3 stats on it, and they all match up, then I would love it if they'd put them in, because I can't find one. Why can't any one see that chaning it back to incorrect figures, is really stupid?? VanillaBear23 ( talk) 10:23, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Is Brisbane really on a floodplain or just the north east quarter of the city? Considering that the Taylor Range has a spur that reaches the CBD from the west and there are a number of mountains, numerous hilly areas and ridges as well as cliffs along the river it can hardly be described as a floodplain. No citation has been provided for the claim regarding a floodplain but there is a citation for the hilly description.
Also the location description as being between the Great Dividing Range and Moreton Bay is not that accurate. Travelling west from Brisbane the Little Liverpool Range and the D'Aguilar Range are crossed before reaching the Great Dividing Range. Any thoughts? - Shiftchange ( talk) 12:26, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Should the overhead photograph state that it is looking Eastward? Being very familiar with Brisbane, even I was confused at first, having just assumed it was facing North.
Therealfindo ( talk) 20:25, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
where it says brisbane's LGA has a population of a million in the intro needs to be removed. None of the other aust cities give details on the population of the central LGA so its very inconsistent. Also, this article is NOT on the brisbane city council (LGA), but the metropilatan area of brisbane, which includes several different council LGAs, so including this figure here is very confusing. I have tried editing this, but it has been changed. Please revert the article to the consistent standard for Australian cities in this regard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 03:10, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
nope. we dont need to think about what in your opinion should be included, or which LGAs. the aust bureau of statistics does that for us. this is an article of brisbanes metropolitan area as defined by the ABS, just as every single other article on australian cities is. end of discussion. —Preceding
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No, the GC and sunshine coast are NOT included in the stat division of brisbane. im sorry, youre going to have to concede defeat on this one. look at the map from the ABS, brisbanes metro area is defined as going from caboolture to logan and out to ipswich. all other aust cities use the ABS definition for their articles and population counts, so for consistency and officiality, we are doing the same. Do not attempt to go against the convention which has been used for every other Aust city. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 08:01, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
there is a very clear way of doing things on wikipedia in these situations, and that is to FOLLOW CONVENTION and CONSISTENCY. looking at every single other article for an australian city, the articles are defined as the ABS's definition of a metro area. LGAs (ie the LGA of sydney) have their own separate articles eg "sydney city council". An LGA (or city council) and a city whole, or metropolitan area, are very distinct entities. whoever is reverting this back to include the LGA, please stop, as there is a clear convention in all the other australian city articles, and on wikipedia, that is what we go by in this situation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 08:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
http://www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/ABSNavigation/prenav/LocationSearch?locationLastSearchTerm=brisbane&locationSearchTerm=brisbane&newarea=305&collection=Census&period=2006&areacode=&geography=&method=&productlabel=&producttype=&topic=&navmapdisplayed=true&javascript=true&breadcrumb=L&topholder=0&leftholder=0¤taction=104&action=104&textversion=false&subaction=2 this link shows the map of the brisbane metro area as defined by the ABS, it does not include gold or sunshine coasts so no need to mention that. this is the SD as defined by the ABS, this is what, based on convention of all other articles of cities in australia, we define this article as being. so please do not revert to unconventionally and confusingly including the LGA. this puts the issue to rest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 08:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
nope, sorry. look at the sydney, melbourne, or perth articles. they are all pictures of the CBD (inside LGAs too). i agree, add some history and geo of the other parts. the reason its not there is that unlike other aust cities, the BCC covers almost half of brisbane, whereas in most others like syd and melb the central LGA covers only a little. were going to stick to the traditional definition of the metro area here. read the rules of wikipedia. if in doubt, follow convention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 10:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
a possible compromise:
Brisbane ( /ˈbrɪzbən/ [1]) is the capital and most populous city in the Australian state of Queensland. Brisbane's metropolitan area has a population predicted to be 2,000,000 by the Australian Bureau of Statitstics, making it the third most populous city in Australia. [2] Brisbane's Local Government Area, which, unlike those of other Australian capitals, includes the greater part of the metropolitan area, is Australia's largest by population.
this includes a link to and introduction of the Brisbane city council LGA, but does not compromise the convention of australian cities articles refering to the official ABS definition.
A more concise alternative would be
Brisbane ( /ˈbrɪzbən/ [3]) is the capital and most populous city in the Australian state of Queensland. With a metropolitan area of 2,000,000 people and a central Local Government Area comprising half of that, it is the third most populous city, and most populous Local Government Area in Australia.
pick and choose.
ok we go with the first one. there is already an article on the brisbane LGA brisbane city council, if you feel that theres not enough on the four other LGAs that are within the brisbane metro area, INCLUDE MORE in the history and geo section, do not try changing the subject of the article to be inconsistent with every other major city article. Take the first option then as a compromise, and i guess the notice at the top about the dispute can be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 11:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Go to the melbourne or sydney article and look at their temperatures. do u see any from frankstown, parramatta, kooyong, south sydney, any of THEIR other LGAs? NO. PS in the compromised intro where it says local govt area in the sentence links to the brisbane city council LGA article, a SEPERATE ARTICLE on the LGA. if not anything else, that should make it clear that THIS article is not on the LGA, but on the official brisbane metro area.we found a compromise. lets leave it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 11:34, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
here is a map of brisbanes metro area. as you can see, there is no stop around the BCC area, everything is a full mass from caboolture to ipswich to beenleigh.
http://www.coastshop.com.au/maps/road/QLD%20brisbane%20region.jpg
here is a map showing the boundaries of the BCC. you see where im coming from now dont you...........
http://www.discoverbrisbane.com/maps/brisbane.gif —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 12:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Those who consider this article should be about the LGA rather than the Brisbane metro area (which does not include the Gold and Sunshine coasts - that is a particularly egregious piece of misinformation) have a responsibility to ensure that this article does not veer into cherry-picking information about the metro area for inclusion. As it stands, the whole Demographics section (which is based on the ABS definition of Brisbane that the LGA-ists here reject) needs to be removed in its entirety. If you reject the ABS definition of Brisbane then you cannot use the statistics that the ABS provide using that definition. Again, this article is trying to have it both ways. I think the consensus here is utterly wrong-headed but given that it exists, those who support it should endeavour to make the article internally consistent. -- Mattinbgn\ talk 20:43, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Are there articles for the syd or melb metro area? simple answer is no. all articles refering to australian cities on wikipedia refer to metro areas. im sorry, shiftchange, but you're going to have to put your own personal opinion aside, and do this the official, conventional way. You cant have all other aust city articles refering to metro area and ours going to council. are you implying brisbane is in fact the 5th largest city after perth and adelaide? this would be the case in your definition. you may have a personal definition but the fact is that ABS is the standard in australia and is used in all other articles. there is ALREADY an article on the brisbane LGA. you may improve or make a new one if you want, but the article that links simple to Brisbane remains the metro area --- its time to put personal opinions aside and go with the official definition. If someone asks what the population of brisbane is youll say its the 3rd largest in aust and has 2 mill, not the 5th largest with 1 mill. to change this article youd be going against every single reference to our city and every official definition and convention used on the subject in this country. Saruman-the-White —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 07:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
i have added a link at the top of the page stating this article is about the metro area (as with all other aust cities) and provided a link to the LGA of the same name. As stated by convention, anything relating to the BCC LGA goes in there. Saruman-the-white —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 07:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Dear shiftchange, when an article says something like 100km from brisbane, they mean from the brisbane CBD. Brisbane is actually also a suburb with the postcode 4000. same as if i say 900km from sydney theyre talking from the CBD. So yes, some national parks may be part of the brisbane metro area and it could be eful to include this, but technically its still correct that wherever is however many km from brisbane, just as its true southbank is 1 km south of brisbane (CBD). Also, its not all of the LGAs that are included, by the i mean the whole area. So for example, where it says scenic rim is included in the brisbane LGA, if you go to the ABS site to see how the brisbane metro area is defined (they have a map) youll see only a very tiny section is included of the scenic rim LGA. so some of those places you mentioned arent actually part of the brisbane metro area at all. some may indeed be located in the brisbane metro area, and i could help adding this to the relevent articles if necessary (you know much of the blue mountains, gosford, katoomba nat'l parks are in the sydney metro area too). But yes, the fact remains that a wiki article when linked directly to the name of an aust city doesnt go to the suburb, ie brisbane 4000, qld, or sydney 2000 nsw, the LGA, ie bris city council, sydney city council, but the metro area. PS. i did put on our compromised intro, but its since been changed (now says a lot about the denonym ie. brisbanite, "brisvegan" .. i didnt do this by the way). i will sign up for a user name yes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 06:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Like most Australian cities, we need to be careful when using the term Brisbane, in both articles and in reading references. Brisbane refers to a capital city, an LGA, a business district, a postal area (Brisbane 4000) and so on. All of these uses have different borders and exist in different contexts. Changing the terms of the lead of this one article will not remove the confusion. This is true of most large Australian cities.
The link Shiftchange provided isn't clear on what 'Brisbane' it's referring to. I'm sure Google will yield hundreds of results for all the uses. This would be the problem which lead to the creation of the ASGC as well as the consensus of the terms of reference to all other Australian cities in Wikipedia. -- AtD ( talk) 10:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
hi shiftchange, here is the link with a map showing the abs and australian standard geographical classification definition of brisbane metro area, used in censuses, price indexes, govt stats, city GDP calculations, workforce, etc. http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/subscriber.nsf/0/8EA943A639BE6767CA2576320019FDC1/$File/12160_jul%202009_qld%20maps.pdf i also provided another link to another copy of this map earlier, zoomed into just the brisbane SD on the census data page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 10:54, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
hi shiftchange, in fact a TINY proportion of the scenic rim council is defined as being in the brisbane metro area (a strip on the very easternmost part). As far as temp is concerned, the temperatures listed are actually refering to Brisbane CBD (postcode 2000), which is chosen as a (usually) central location of a metro area from which to take figures on climate. indeed, there will be suburbs within and outside the BCC LGA that have recorded lower temperatures, but because it would be very complex to have to include CBD, some bayside suburbs, nothern, western, southern, etc. articles for any city tend just to use the CBD as a simple, supposedly central, point of reference. in sydney it is not central but in the far east, and the outer western suburbs of sydney get far hotter and far colder (much more difference than anything in brisbane) but, call it illogical (i might even be inclined to agree), but its just a simple point of reference.
To the Brisbane City Council article, youre right, its very confusing. Upon closer observation of the article, it is in fact in the category "LGAs in queensland" and is linked (at the bottom with the list) to the LGA for "City of brisbane" also the table at the right side is the same table used for an LGA, with area, population etc, the name of the table even was "city of brisbane" -- clearly this is an article on the city of brisbane, rather than the BCC. All it took me was to change a few references and the article is now in line with all other LGA articles, which it is listed as one, and refers to the city of brisbane, and is primarily about the LGA, with a large section called "Governance" --- to do this i looked at the models of other LGA articles, such as the city of sydney and the city of melbourne, it was, but for the name, already largely in line with these. This should clear a lot of the ambiguity, and makes it a lot more consistant. Granted, the article is not particularly detailed, but looking at the articles for other LGAs, it does indeed appear highly detailed (and much longer). That article was really about the LGA and was listed as an LGA article, but under the name of the governing authority rather than the name of the LGA. i have fixed these things up to put it in line with the other LGA articles, and in time hope to change the name of the article to "City of Brisbane", as all other LGA articles are named, and have "Brisbane City Council" redirect to it (the section on governance) -- this is what is done in other LGA articles, ie city of sydney, city of melbourne. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.63.196 ( talk) 07:17, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
should the info box picture have multiple images in it as it does in Melbourne and Perth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.98.116 ( talk) 05:12, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
No one else seems to want one, but I made a very rough one anyway. I'm not from Brisbane so probably didn't select the best things to put into this, which is why I made a very rough one as a test.
Like I said, this is a very rough one (The borders are quite messy, and the pictures could be better), but I thought I'd show it to you to see if it is what you were thinking. We are the only 3 who seem to have expressed interest however, and this is since december last year, so I would assume that for now at least, most contributors are happy with the current infobox picture. Anoldtreeok ( talk) 02:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Hey there. thanks a lot for the great montage. i had a lot of time on my hands so i managed to find some pictures already off wiki which didnt have any forms of protection. ive used yours as a basis and added a couple more sites so its in line with the melbourne one. take a look on the main page and tell me if you like. i think the pictures compliment eachother very nicely! thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saruman-the-white ( talk • contribs) 10:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I made the claim that I had time on my hands but then realised I didn't. So sorry I didn't end up following through on making another picture, but the one that is there now is better than I would have made (I was relying on wikipedia to figure out what were the most notable parts of Brisbane). Good work. Anoldtreeok ( talk) 06:51, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys - I work for Brisbane Marketing and we make all of our images available for use. If you want to use any images for the montage please have a look at the following site [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ascough ( talk • contribs) 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
I know Brisbane has a nice skyline and looks great from space, but is there any need for 3 pictures of the skyline and two aerial/satellite photos ? This is an encyclopedia article, so I suggest picking a couple of the best and leaving the rest. -- Biatch ( talk) 00:21, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Not trying to get into the same argument as above, but seeing as the sister cities relations are between Brisbane city council, and not Brisbane as a whole? Looking through the previous discussions, I'm not entirely sure what consensus (if any) has been reached, and sorry if this has been brought up before, just thought I'd bring it up.
Melbourne also does this, but unlike here, there's no debate as to what the article refers to, so it's an even bigger wonder there. Maybe I should raise the question there as well. Anoldtreeok ( talk) 08:37, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
I would like to make the suggestion that this article be moved from
Brisbane to
Brisbane, Queensland so it is in line with the rest of the town and city based articles.
FNQ (
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14:43, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Fairy Nuff... Withdrawn. FNQ ( talk) 23:30, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
no, the only other brisbane is a town of several thousand in california. clearly this is the brisbane that should be given the brisbane name. (also it was the first brisbane) Saruman-the-white ( talk) 11:20, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Oppose. Arguments above. Subtropical-man ( talk) 18:40, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
I would argue for the inclusion of the Brisbane Media Map in the media section. No need to mention it's run by QUT, because the site does not seek to promote QUT (note it's not a QUT domain and has no QUT branding, as it's meant to be a public resource). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Houriganamy ( talk • contribs) 00:17, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
It's common when news is happening that someone adds some current event to an article that will not really be significant months and years later. Amazingly, this article shows the opposite. Currently, Brisbane is under a flood at least as bad as 1974, and the article does not mention it, except one line which uses the deprecated word "recent". Someone who knows some details should update this article. Randall Bart Talk 00:08, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Original statement "1930 was a significant year for Brisbane, with the construction of landmarks that helped define the character of the city. The Story Bridge and Brisbane City Hall, then the city's tallest buildings, were both completed. Additionally, the Shrine of Remembrance, in ANZAC Square, became Brisbane's main war memorial.[22]" in incorrect
The story bridge construction commenced in May 1935 it was completed in June 1940 [4]
paragraph should read along these lines "1930 was a significant year for Brisbane, with the completion of Brisbane City Hall, then the city's tallest building and the Shrine of Remembrance, in ANZAC Square, which has become Brisbane's main war memorial[22]. These historic buildings along with the Story Bridge, opened in 1940 [5] are key landmarks that help define the character of the city. " BEZALEL2000 ( talk) 23:21, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi guys, this page has come along since a few years back but I still think it could be improved. Does anyone feel the same way as me that the montage at the top right could look a little more professional, or possibly to change it to a single image like sydney? Want to see what other people think or if everyone super loves the current setup. Of course its hard when I'm not showing anything to compare it to but I can fix that shortly. Thanks. EzykronHD ( talk) 23:59, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Why are Ipswich, Moreton Bay and Scenic Rim included in this page's infobox as being part of Brisbane. I grew up in Moreton Bay and this is the first time I've heard of those areas as being part of Brisbane. I agree they can be considered part of the South East Queensland agglomeration, as stated in the lead paragraph, but to call them part of Brisbane is misleading. LordVetinari ( talk) 12:59, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
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I was looking at the Urban Map and got a mite confused, UQ's north of QUT, WoE? Somebody needs to either flip the map the correct way round or make a note that it's showing South-North not North-South as you'd expect. 118.208.11.20 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:46, 16 September 2011 (UTC).
Which picture better to infobox?
Pictures to infobox should show the greatest area / whole city, not a few boats and buildings, therefore prefers the second picture (Mount Coot-tha). Also, in the article is already picture from Kangaroo Point (will be two?), no photos from Mount Coot-tha - the second argument for picture from Mount Coot-tha. However, not everyone wants this picture. What is your opinion and arguments? Which picture better to infobox? Subtropical-man ( talk) 14:07, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
First one. kanga point shows icononic angle of skyline. cootha shows worst angle of skyline with least iconic buildings. and no river! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saruman-the-white ( talk • contribs) 15:50, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Most definately from here ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Brisbane_skyline_bluesky.jpg) or here ( http://www.globeimages.net/data/media/34/brisbane_skyline_australia.jpg) as a skyline photo must be from the other side of the river, in order to get in all of the landmark iconic buildings (waterfront, cp1, 111 eagle, riparian, etc). the mt cootha angle gets the shortest and least icononic buildings , and does not show the river, an iconic feature of the city. These are considered the two most defining angles for a skyline shot of brisbane. Saruman-the-white ( talk) 10:24, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
The Climate section in the article is "defeat". Not counting record temperatures and sea temperatures, writes only about natural disasters etc. There is a lack of basic climate information. In a week I change the name section to "natural disasters" ;) You should create a new article Climate of Brisbane, like as Climate of Sydney. In the new article, you can write about the curiosities, example Dust storms from 23 September 2009 etc. Subtropical-man ( talk) 13:52, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Personally I don't believe it belongs on the Brisbane page, as a "Brisbanite" it's an embarrassment, it was started as a joke as we were the "big country town" with one casino and no class. It does not belong on a wiki page, especially being that we are trying to introduce ourselves as a world city, we don't need and the insult on our page. I have removed it. If someone want to put it back incorporate it into another piece of text but it doesn't warrant a sub-catergory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IsabelleF ( talk • contribs) 08:48, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
This image should be used: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brisbane_Skyline_Evening.jpg
It is up to date and gives a much better view of the city. The current image only really shows the Eagle st side. Also at night it looks really cool. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heugfignf ( talk • contribs) 01:09, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Last external link contains virus. 77.105.5.225 ( talk) 01:50, 9 February 2012 (UTC)SERBIA
The article contains photos of the Brisbane skyline that are very out of date, such as the one captioned "the bris skyline, viewed from K. Point, is one of the most extensive in the S. hemisphere". This is most certainly true, however the photo was taken in ~2004, at a time when many (up to a third) of Brisbane's more prominent skyscrapers had not yet been built, and as give an outdated and inaccurate depiction of the skyline.
That angle from Kangaroo Point is indeed easily the best and most iconic, however i wonder if anyone has any more recent ones taken after the competion of soleil, 111 eagle street, skyline appts, etc., buildings which have completely transformed the skyline since then.
That angle is certainly the one to use, but if anyone has a more recent photo to replace that one, and to replace the main title photo (which still shows soleil and 111 eagle with cranes and under construction), that would indeed be good. Many city articles showcase the city's skyline with impressive and "impacting" shots. Given Brisbane's absolutely massive skyline in relation to its size, this would be worth doing here. Saruman-the-white ( talk) 12:54, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
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Please come along to the meetup. John Vandenberg ( chat) 08:06, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
I'm not good at editing but Brisbane will host the G20 leaders summit in 2014 - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-11/queensland-business-community-welcomes-g20/4123680.
This would be a major event worthy of mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.161.75.113 ( talk) 01:22, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
In my opinion, neither the current nor previous infobox image best represents Brisbane. The third one here (CBDandSB) is pretty good... but of the three, the current (from Kangaroo Point) has the poorest quality.
I nominate #1 (Aerial view of the Brisbane CBD (5275318079).jpg) until a better one is loaded to commons. -- Travis Thurston 05:10, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi. My main concern is that the photo should include as much of the skyline is as possible (thus a photo taken from Kangaroo Point is usually the best and most visually appealing bet), also, the photo should have been taken after the completion of Soleil and 111 Eagle St, which have dramatically altered the skyline. The current Kangaroo Point photo is not too bad, although it could certainly be more visually appealing and the angle is not quite right to showcase the full extent of the skyline. The following, which are not my work, exemplify the kind of photo we should use as the title image of this article. They showcase the full skyline accurately, aesthetically, and in an up to date manner. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joebrosnan/6719414841/in/photostream ; http://www.flickr.com/photos/joebrosnan/7751073068/in/photostream ; http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanleykozak/7836945386/sizes/h/in/photostream/ ; http://www.flickr.com/photos/timpoulton/7819285198/sizes/k/in/photostream/ ; http://www.flickr.com/photos/damienryan/7814893794/sizes/h/in/photostream/ . We can clearly do so much better. In addition, the photo of the skyline "bluesky?" in the Geography/urban structure section was taken in 2004 (!!!). This photo is a decade old. We may as well upload one of Brisbane during the war and be done with it. The photo is great, the position is great, but it doesn't reflect the skyline today and should also be changed. -- Saruman-the-white ( talk) 03:23, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Was wondering if anyone would care to make a montage with the following seven images, just to see how it looks? 121.220.222.63 ( talk) 13:46, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
If people feel the one from Kangaroo Point is of poor quality, which I don't think it is (looks mostly clear to me), then perhaps they could replace that one with another in the montage.
Those are some great images and I think they'd potentially make a fantastic montage. I especially like the wheel, illuminated Story bridge and night pano from Mt. Coot-tha. Cuboora ( talk) 15:54, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Yes that was my intention, however if you look at the first image I posted, those buildings are there and up to date as that panorama is very recent. 121.220.222.63 ( talk) 09:24, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
No worries! Here's the two best pics I have from Thursday. I will most likely go back again sometime soon. If anyone has any other ideas or landmarks to capture, let me know. EzykronHD ( talk) 19:25, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Wow, that first one is excellent, well done! Did you notice if that flower was in bloom? 49.176.4.170 ( talk) 07:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
What do people think of this infobox montage? I would of used a day picture for the top, but I need a panorama, Ezykron do you have any panoramas? 49.176.1.101 ( talk) 13:55, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
I think the second pic with the Wheel is overkill, the gardens pic is a little nondescript and uninspiring, the skyline photo really should be a clear one during the day from the iconic kangaroo point view, and the bottom photo is could be anywhere and is unnecesary. I think if you replaced the bottom one with the new kangaroo point skyline/river photo, and replaced the gardens and second daytime wheel of brisbane photos with a flattering one of moreton bay (which has been of great historical importance to brisbane) it could look very good but one concern would be the fact that at such a small size, so many photos could be very hard to see clearly.-- Saruman-the-white ( talk) 03:29, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
How to verify that the books specify the Koppen-Geiger code for the climate? The books are inaccessible, while the map is easily accessible. I was the one who changed the code to Cwa when no one seemed to object, but then realized that it should be Cfa. Now Bidgee is making claims that Cwa is cited in the books! [2] - [3] -- Mahmudmasri ( talk) 11:30, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
You still haven't commented on the main discussion and by the way, the source must be accessible if you are basing your dispute upon.
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OK, would you please capture an image with your mobile phone or scan the page and post it to me to verify that the book says the code is Cwa not Cfa? Also again it was made in other discussions: it is very impractical and near-impossible to have a source stating the climate code for each location on the surface of the earth, that's why there are colored maps. Wikipedia rules are not made to be against practicality and shouldn't be misused to hinder others from positively contributing. -- Mahmudmasri ( talk) 18:00, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I twice removed a list of actors and a director from the "Popular culture" section and it was twice reverted. This section should not be for listing individuals, which should be listed under famous entertainers or notable people. To be honest, I don't think the section should even exist for a city the size of Brisbane, as there is an almost endless list of famous people that could quickly swamp the article.
My suggestion is that we start a List of notable people from Brisbane, and move them there. Similar lists exist for other large cities.
Comments welcome. I won't revert again as it's 2-all now. -- Dmol ( talk) 08:02, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
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