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Why is always "Cell Dara" changed back to "Cill Dara"???
Kildare is "Cill Dara" in modern Irish but originally derived from "Cell Dara" in Old Irish, meaning "Church of the Oak"! This is a well known fact! In the Early Christian Ireland the name "Cell Dara" was used not "Cill Dara"!
The statement that Brigid's supposed episcopal ordination would have been valid although illegitimate is, unfortunately, theologically unfounded, and I have removed it since, from a historical standpoint, it is categorically incorrect. The Anglican Ordinations controversy raised this same idea later, an ordination is not valid if the bishop did not actually intend to ordain the person as a bishop, or priest, or deacon. Furthermore, Catholic theology currently (and historically) holds that it is impossible to ordain women -- therefore, even the bishop had intended to do it, it would not have worked. I have removed the erroneous theological statement.
There is no evidence given that Brigid did receive ordination. I cannot find any independant sources to verify it, and for such an unlikely claim, any mention of it ought to be backed by very solid sources. A primary source quotation should be supplied and cited. We can't be making up things or passing on dubious claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Totustuusmaria ( talk • contribs) 20:40, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
According to Catholic sites, the actual feast day is January 21, not February 1. Is there any reason not to change it to the January date? See http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=1837. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.143.106.248 ( talk • contribs) 04:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC).
That's because that's a different St. Bridget. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.37.61.2 ( talk • contribs).
Yes, in agreement with the above, I'll quote the Irish poet, Raftery (1784-1835). "Anois teacht an Earraigh beidh an lá dúl chun shíneadh, Is tar eis na féil Bríde ardóigh mé mo sheol." (Now Spring is here, the days will grow shorter, And after Brigid's Day, I'll head for the hills.) St. Brigid's day always signifies the beginning of Spring: 1st February.
Speaking of Catholic sites, portions of this are lifted from the Catholic Encyclopedia verbatim.
I've deleted the bit about Groundhog Day, because one, it's an american thing, and two, groundhogs aren't native to Ireland. Vittula ( talk) 15:13, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
According to today's Main Page, today is the feast of Brigit of Kildare for the Eastern Orthodox Church. Is that for the Julian calendar offset or does the Orthodox church actually fest Saint Brigit on a different date? -- Error ( talk) 22:25, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Also I think mention should be made of the largest town whose name commemorates her, East Kilbride.
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Why is always "Cell Dara" changed back to "Cill Dara"???
Kildare is "Cill Dara" in modern Irish but originally derived from "Cell Dara" in Old Irish, meaning "Church of the Oak"! This is a well known fact! In the Early Christian Ireland the name "Cell Dara" was used not "Cill Dara"!
The statement that Brigid's supposed episcopal ordination would have been valid although illegitimate is, unfortunately, theologically unfounded, and I have removed it since, from a historical standpoint, it is categorically incorrect. The Anglican Ordinations controversy raised this same idea later, an ordination is not valid if the bishop did not actually intend to ordain the person as a bishop, or priest, or deacon. Furthermore, Catholic theology currently (and historically) holds that it is impossible to ordain women -- therefore, even the bishop had intended to do it, it would not have worked. I have removed the erroneous theological statement.
There is no evidence given that Brigid did receive ordination. I cannot find any independant sources to verify it, and for such an unlikely claim, any mention of it ought to be backed by very solid sources. A primary source quotation should be supplied and cited. We can't be making up things or passing on dubious claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Totustuusmaria ( talk • contribs) 20:40, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
According to Catholic sites, the actual feast day is January 21, not February 1. Is there any reason not to change it to the January date? See http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=1837. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.143.106.248 ( talk • contribs) 04:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC).
That's because that's a different St. Bridget. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.37.61.2 ( talk • contribs).
Yes, in agreement with the above, I'll quote the Irish poet, Raftery (1784-1835). "Anois teacht an Earraigh beidh an lá dúl chun shíneadh, Is tar eis na féil Bríde ardóigh mé mo sheol." (Now Spring is here, the days will grow shorter, And after Brigid's Day, I'll head for the hills.) St. Brigid's day always signifies the beginning of Spring: 1st February.
Speaking of Catholic sites, portions of this are lifted from the Catholic Encyclopedia verbatim.
I've deleted the bit about Groundhog Day, because one, it's an american thing, and two, groundhogs aren't native to Ireland. Vittula ( talk) 15:13, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
According to today's Main Page, today is the feast of Brigit of Kildare for the Eastern Orthodox Church. Is that for the Julian calendar offset or does the Orthodox church actually fest Saint Brigit on a different date? -- Error ( talk) 22:25, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Also I think mention should be made of the largest town whose name commemorates her, East Kilbride.
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