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I know this is a terrible thing to say, but isn't this not very much of a dystopia? All they have to do is treat their children and elders better. Their material needs are met, they'd be at peace, there's plenty of soma, sex, sports and TV, their intellects match their careers, and if for whatever reason you dislike it, there's reservations where you can escape. It would have gone over a lot worse in real life, it really would have. Maybe Brave New World is actually a bedroom farce affectionately parodying dystopian fiction. 125.212.120.201 ( talk) 06:09, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
The fact that the writer calls the novel a dystopia, does not necessarily mean it is. The word dystopia has a definition which is independent from huxley's own opinion, and the novel should be categorised by deciding whether it falls into this category or not. For example if I wrote a poem, it would fall into the "poem" category even if I called it a novel. So I actually agree with the first commenter, I think this is a utopia, and the wikipedia article is currently wrong. Salabok ( talk) 18:23, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
…Orwell believed that Brave New World must have been partly derived from the novel We by Yevgeny Zamyatin. However, in a 1962 letter, Huxley says that he wrote Brave New World long before he had heard of We… Orwell believed that Huxley was lying.
and wasn't Nineteen Eighty-Four published in 1949? (See anonymous edit of this day altering the date of publication from 1949 to 1984) Nick_cool ( talk) 13:23, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
I have
removed (for the second time,) the addition of the book, The Inner Room. The person adding it seems to think there is a thematic relationship between the two stories, but has not presented
reliably sourced notes making an explicit comparison. As we do not use our own opinions to compare the two, as we are not credible sources.
Without this explicit comparison from an RS, the material cannot return to the article.
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Jack Sebastian (
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18:43, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
The article states 'The scientific futurism in Brave New World is believed to be appropriated from Daedalus by J. B. S. Haldane'.
Who is it that believes this? And should the article have a brief description of their reasons for so believing?
Guyal of Sfere ( talk) 18:33, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
In this Wikipedia article the DHC is given a last name (Grahambell) which I couldn't find in my book. Does that last name appear in any Brave New World edition? Moangu3 ( talk) 17:04, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
The redirect
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Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 9 § Fifi Bradlaugh until a consensus is reached.
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23:07, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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I know this is a terrible thing to say, but isn't this not very much of a dystopia? All they have to do is treat their children and elders better. Their material needs are met, they'd be at peace, there's plenty of soma, sex, sports and TV, their intellects match their careers, and if for whatever reason you dislike it, there's reservations where you can escape. It would have gone over a lot worse in real life, it really would have. Maybe Brave New World is actually a bedroom farce affectionately parodying dystopian fiction. 125.212.120.201 ( talk) 06:09, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
The fact that the writer calls the novel a dystopia, does not necessarily mean it is. The word dystopia has a definition which is independent from huxley's own opinion, and the novel should be categorised by deciding whether it falls into this category or not. For example if I wrote a poem, it would fall into the "poem" category even if I called it a novel. So I actually agree with the first commenter, I think this is a utopia, and the wikipedia article is currently wrong. Salabok ( talk) 18:23, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
…Orwell believed that Brave New World must have been partly derived from the novel We by Yevgeny Zamyatin. However, in a 1962 letter, Huxley says that he wrote Brave New World long before he had heard of We… Orwell believed that Huxley was lying.
and wasn't Nineteen Eighty-Four published in 1949? (See anonymous edit of this day altering the date of publication from 1949 to 1984) Nick_cool ( talk) 13:23, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
I have
removed (for the second time,) the addition of the book, The Inner Room. The person adding it seems to think there is a thematic relationship between the two stories, but has not presented
reliably sourced notes making an explicit comparison. As we do not use our own opinions to compare the two, as we are not credible sources.
Without this explicit comparison from an RS, the material cannot return to the article.
Thoughts? -
Jack Sebastian (
talk)
18:43, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
The article states 'The scientific futurism in Brave New World is believed to be appropriated from Daedalus by J. B. S. Haldane'.
Who is it that believes this? And should the article have a brief description of their reasons for so believing?
Guyal of Sfere ( talk) 18:33, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
In this Wikipedia article the DHC is given a last name (Grahambell) which I couldn't find in my book. Does that last name appear in any Brave New World edition? Moangu3 ( talk) 17:04, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
The redirect
Fifi Bradlaugh has been listed at
redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the
redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 9 § Fifi Bradlaugh until a consensus is reached.
Utopes (
talk /
cont)
23:07, 9 April 2024 (UTC)