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A lot of BS is not in the Northavon constituency at the moment. Don't have time to sort it out.
The nickname 'Sadly Broke' is well known in the Bristol area and residents of Bradley Stoke. It can be considered to be an identifying feature of the development, which history recalls, was troubled by financial crisis in its early years. Therefore it is justified to include the "Sadly Broke" reference. It is a neutral statement that is not particularly offensive to any of the residents since it refers not to them but the financial difficulties of the original developers, which coincided with the late 80s property crash.
Comments please on whether you think it is valid to include this reference.
-- Dunk 17:17, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Dunk, the test is would you be startled to see this passage in Britannica or En Carta. I certainly would.
However, please revert because I know I can't make you understand.
Adrian Pingstone 17:30, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Who says we are trying to create an encyclopedia that is just like Britannica or En Carta. I believe the WP mandate can go far beyond that. Adding something that creates a bit of humour to an article, rather than a completely dry piece of prose, can add to the interest in the topic and should not be reverted on your principle.
The point is factually correct and non-offensive. Why should it be removed? -- Dunk 17:52, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I personally see no reason to link there. It is a blog, with little or no citations. It is also a very new site, and I can see no claims of notability. Google contains 3 links (one to the article, one to the old website URL, and one to a newer one). The website is also currently down. Ian¹³ /t 14:25, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd argue the link should stay - seems pretty relevant to the article - what's the harm?? Nige 20:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Surely the point is the link refers to Bradley Stoke and is thus a genuine Bradley SAtoke article - it doesn't matter one iota how many links off google it's got - my final word anyway as it's unbelieveably petty this whole discussion IMHO. There's a danger wiki will become too strict/anal if edits like these continue. Nige 20:36, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
[From the anon user making the edits[ Thanks Nige. I think the site adds to the article, and despite what Ian is claiming, it is clearly a new news site, despite the fact it is run in Blogger. The definition of a site should not be down to the tools used to create it. The addition does no harm.
Also, Ian, the site was down due to vandalism of the Telewest network according to its homepage. I think *that* is a petty excuse to have a go at it if ever I saw one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.12.20.181 ( talk • contribs)
Ian, again: Three users got involved in the Examiner debate, two said keep it, you said take it down. I think this means it should stay. When you say in the edit 'no objections raised', I think there were actually TWO objections raised to removing it. I don't understand your logic to removing it when clearly there were more people - albeit a small number - who said it should remain. Please explain why you have once again acted without backing to remove it.
I'd like to reopen this debate. Bradley Stoke is not a town by any other measure other than it calls itself one. Bradley Stoke has parish council which calls itself a "town council" and there is nothing to stop it doing so. Historically a Town was somewhere with a charter for a market from the crown, Bradley Stoke does not have a market or a market square, nor does the new building count either as this is not provide the same kind of public space. Consequently calling Bradley Stoke a town is misleading.
By almost all classifications and expectations of a town, I would suggest Bradley Stoke falls short other then postal address and population. For example, there is no high street, common public space such a market square or parkland, theatre etc, etc.... Bullgod01 14:35, 10 March 2008 (GMT)
I noticed that someone changed the article to say that Bradley Stoke is a town, rather than a large housing estate, but this was reverted pretty much immediately by Ian13 without any explaination why. So, what is the status of the place? It has a town council, doesn't this make it a town? What does everyone think?
Just noticed this one - are we sure that Bradley Stoke is served by Gloucestershire Fire Brigade? (see links on the right of the main page).
Looking here: http://www.avonfirebrigade.gov.uk/stn_locator.asp seems to suggest we're in Avon Fire & Rescue's patch. Anyone got any ideas? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.69.60.199 ( talk) 17:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC).
so that needs to be amended.
Wanted to add some discussion over this seemingly 'hot topic'. A few points: Bradley Stoke Matters, Examiner, Journal are all established media sources for the town and it seems they warrant reference in the piece. The Bristol article, for example, makes reference to media for there, so it seems fitting to have the same for Bradley Stoke. Secondly, Examiner/Journal both run on Wordpress but blog this does make either. Examiner has been nominated for a newspaper award for two years running so feels established enough to include. Bradley Stoke Local, though, has no Google references and much of its content is quite clearly rehashes of stories from Examiner/Journal so does not feel worthy of mention. Any other views? Reg. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Regshaw ( talk • contribs)
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A lot of BS is not in the Northavon constituency at the moment. Don't have time to sort it out.
The nickname 'Sadly Broke' is well known in the Bristol area and residents of Bradley Stoke. It can be considered to be an identifying feature of the development, which history recalls, was troubled by financial crisis in its early years. Therefore it is justified to include the "Sadly Broke" reference. It is a neutral statement that is not particularly offensive to any of the residents since it refers not to them but the financial difficulties of the original developers, which coincided with the late 80s property crash.
Comments please on whether you think it is valid to include this reference.
-- Dunk 17:17, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Dunk, the test is would you be startled to see this passage in Britannica or En Carta. I certainly would.
However, please revert because I know I can't make you understand.
Adrian Pingstone 17:30, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Who says we are trying to create an encyclopedia that is just like Britannica or En Carta. I believe the WP mandate can go far beyond that. Adding something that creates a bit of humour to an article, rather than a completely dry piece of prose, can add to the interest in the topic and should not be reverted on your principle.
The point is factually correct and non-offensive. Why should it be removed? -- Dunk 17:52, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I personally see no reason to link there. It is a blog, with little or no citations. It is also a very new site, and I can see no claims of notability. Google contains 3 links (one to the article, one to the old website URL, and one to a newer one). The website is also currently down. Ian¹³ /t 14:25, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd argue the link should stay - seems pretty relevant to the article - what's the harm?? Nige 20:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Surely the point is the link refers to Bradley Stoke and is thus a genuine Bradley SAtoke article - it doesn't matter one iota how many links off google it's got - my final word anyway as it's unbelieveably petty this whole discussion IMHO. There's a danger wiki will become too strict/anal if edits like these continue. Nige 20:36, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
[From the anon user making the edits[ Thanks Nige. I think the site adds to the article, and despite what Ian is claiming, it is clearly a new news site, despite the fact it is run in Blogger. The definition of a site should not be down to the tools used to create it. The addition does no harm.
Also, Ian, the site was down due to vandalism of the Telewest network according to its homepage. I think *that* is a petty excuse to have a go at it if ever I saw one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.12.20.181 ( talk • contribs)
Ian, again: Three users got involved in the Examiner debate, two said keep it, you said take it down. I think this means it should stay. When you say in the edit 'no objections raised', I think there were actually TWO objections raised to removing it. I don't understand your logic to removing it when clearly there were more people - albeit a small number - who said it should remain. Please explain why you have once again acted without backing to remove it.
I'd like to reopen this debate. Bradley Stoke is not a town by any other measure other than it calls itself one. Bradley Stoke has parish council which calls itself a "town council" and there is nothing to stop it doing so. Historically a Town was somewhere with a charter for a market from the crown, Bradley Stoke does not have a market or a market square, nor does the new building count either as this is not provide the same kind of public space. Consequently calling Bradley Stoke a town is misleading.
By almost all classifications and expectations of a town, I would suggest Bradley Stoke falls short other then postal address and population. For example, there is no high street, common public space such a market square or parkland, theatre etc, etc.... Bullgod01 14:35, 10 March 2008 (GMT)
I noticed that someone changed the article to say that Bradley Stoke is a town, rather than a large housing estate, but this was reverted pretty much immediately by Ian13 without any explaination why. So, what is the status of the place? It has a town council, doesn't this make it a town? What does everyone think?
Just noticed this one - are we sure that Bradley Stoke is served by Gloucestershire Fire Brigade? (see links on the right of the main page).
Looking here: http://www.avonfirebrigade.gov.uk/stn_locator.asp seems to suggest we're in Avon Fire & Rescue's patch. Anyone got any ideas? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.69.60.199 ( talk) 17:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC).
so that needs to be amended.
Wanted to add some discussion over this seemingly 'hot topic'. A few points: Bradley Stoke Matters, Examiner, Journal are all established media sources for the town and it seems they warrant reference in the piece. The Bristol article, for example, makes reference to media for there, so it seems fitting to have the same for Bradley Stoke. Secondly, Examiner/Journal both run on Wordpress but blog this does make either. Examiner has been nominated for a newspaper award for two years running so feels established enough to include. Bradley Stoke Local, though, has no Google references and much of its content is quite clearly rehashes of stories from Examiner/Journal so does not feel worthy of mention. Any other views? Reg. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Regshaw ( talk • contribs)
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