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The result of the proposal was withdrawn. JPG-GR ( talk) 05:57, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
According to the traffic stats
here and
here, the article for the city (
Bolzano) receives about twice as much traffic as the article for the person (
Bernard Bolzano) which is certainly more, but not (I think) so overwhelmingly more that the city qualifies as a primary usage for the name "Bolzano" (and the various disputes above
in the archive over the proper name for the city simply underscores this fact.)
I propose that the article on the city be moved to Bolzano (city) and that Bolzano be made a redirect to Bolzano (disambiguation) (or the disambiguation page moved here.) -- Sapphic ( talk) 21:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I'm not going to get in another edit war. I'll just come on here to state that the sentence claiming Bolzano was an ethnic German city, because 95% spoke German, is bogus. Mother tongue does not equal ethnicity, sorry to break it to you. My mother tongue is English, I am not English. Jean Alessi's mother tongue is French, he is not French. You all completely pass over the fact that the people of Trentino Alto Adige were essentially all Ladin speakers at one point, until the German language along with some ethnic Germans migrated and mixed into this area. There are people all over the province of Bolzano with dark hair and features, having surnames like Seppi, or Rainer, (two names I know go back for centuries in Bolzano) who speak the German language because it was under a German-speaking crown. duh! Of course these same families likely have mixed roots of German, maybe some people from Veneto, Friuli, whatever. The point is that the great thing about this region is this mixture, and all you seem intent on doing is making it trivial. I don't know how many times I have to explain this to the group who think this area was simply some purely German "ethnic" area that was invaded. I guess that makes it easier to process for some people's minds... @_@ Icsunonove ( talk) 09:46, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
It is not worth my time to keep track of your snide attacks and biased statements, which are way too often incredibly full of factual errors. I have better things to do; like expand the articles about South Tyrol - with historical facts, sources, references,... isn't that great! Soon we will be able to put POVs, original research, myths and factual errors all to rest. -- noclador ( talk) 01:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
The article says " With the end of the Roman empire a Bavarian immigration began and the first mentioning of a Bavarian count as ruler of Bozen dates from 679. The area has been settled by German populations since than." I don't know how much clearer it has to be that this is a Germanic city. The article says the city was settled by German populations since the year 679. The article also says "At the time of its annexation {after WW I}, Bozen was an ethnic German city, with a pre-war population of 30,000 people, 95.52% of whom were German native speakers." Also, Bozen was part of the German speaking country of Austria for how long? Over a millenia? Also, the reason Wikipedia refers to the city as Bolzano is not because Bolzano is the English name of the city. All English language encyclopedia's will refer to Bolzano and all other cities that were formerly German by the name the country they are now part of calls them. This goes for hundreds of cities taken from Germany and Austria since the end of WW I (Pilsen now PLZEN - Czech, Bozen now Bolzano - Italian, Danzig now Gdansk - Poland, Breslau now Wroclaw - Poland). Your attempts to deny the German history of this city are disgusting. Unfortunately, when it comes to anything German wikipedia will always be opposed to the German (and Austrian) point of view. Also, English is a Germanic language - derived from German. So, the the word Bolzano is used for the reason I explained above.
In addition, Italy is a beautiful country, but its not an accident that Bolzano or (Bozen) has the second highest standard of living in Italy. When the worlds best cities (ranked by standard of living) are published in magazines, there are typically 3 to 5 German speaking cities ranked in the top ten cities in the world (Zurich, Vienna, Munich). No other country has more than one city ranked in the top ten: The USA, the UK, France and Italy each don't have any cities that rank in the top ten.
You are biased, just as most of the wikipedia editors are. There is no question about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pgg804 ( talk • contribs) 03:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
After spending some time revising historic inaccuracies that were published without citing reliable sources and feeding mostly on common Italian historic rendition, I also realize that the article is a rough, approximate, and poor translation from Italian. Italian expressions are translated verbatim and as a result the English page reads awkward and unconvincing. Although I`ve edited several paragraphs that had been written and published with numerous English language issues, I believe that the article still needs major revisions, both with regard to contents and to English terminology and grammar.
SPECIFIC ISSUES IN THE CANCELLATION BY JEPPIZ:
``No fighting took place in the County of Tyrol during the First World War.`` Jeppiz claims that this statement is supported by the cited source. That is impossible. He failed to evaluate the source and double check whether the statement respects the source. The Tyrolean front line was over 400 Km long and there were thousands of casualties in battles fought all along the Tyrolean borders, with tens of war cemeteries built to bury the dead. You can easily find evidence of the absurdity of the statement
``Nevertheless, those Germans who opted to stay in South Tyrol ....` Jeppiz wrongly reverted to this version. Inhabitants of South Tyrol are not Germans, although they speak German. Jeppiz reverted to a clearly inaccurate version without investigating my changes.
ENTIRE PARAGRAPH ``In the 1920s, along with the rest of South Tyrol, Bolzano was subjected to an intensive Italianisation programme.........`` Jeppiz erased all my changes, for no reason. I had edited the paragraph to improve readability, grammar and English language issues, accuracy (the previous paragraph spoke of `those Germans` whereas historically South Tyroleans were not Germans, although they spoke German. The paragraph was poorly written and I made changes to improve that.
`` After 1943, heavy fighting against Nazi Germany and the Axis Powers took place in the Dolomite Alps once the Allied Powers had liberated Italy.`` Jeppiz mistakenly reverted to this version. He made two mistakes: First, there is no such thing as the Dolomite Alps. They are called DOLOMITES, or, likely acceptable in English, Dolomitic Alps. Second, the statement is virtually impossible. The Allied troops could not have fought in the Dolomites after Italy had been liberated, because the Dolomites are in Italy and therefore the statement is nonsensical. My reinstated version ameliorated both points.
`` independence movements gradually gained popularity among the Germanic population in Bolzano and South Tyrol.` Jeppiz cl,early has no knowledge of local history and erased my ALL comments based on dubious reasons. In this case, I had improved the narrative by erasing the word `gradually` since the local population had overwhelmingly sought re-unification with Austria. My other changes, erased by Jeppiz, were meant to improve readability, since the pre-existing paragraph was poorly written. Jeppiz deemed my changes to be worth of his ax.
``In 1996, the European Union approved of further integration of the Austrian state of Tyrol with the Germanic province of South Tyrol and Trentino (Welschtirol) in Italy.`` Jeppiz incorrectly reverted to this version which shows two inaccuracies: 1) Tyrol is not an Austrian state; it`s an Austrian province (Land and not Staat). 2)South Tyrol is not a Germanic province. In 1996 it was an Italian bilingual autonomous province. My correction was accurate and needed no axing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.151.117.48 ( talk) 18:37, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
I don`t know who you are, but evidently you play god with someone else`s work. The fact that you erased all my changes and reverted back to the original ``No fighting took place in the County of Tyrol during the First World War.`` proves your inadequacy as whatever your role is. There were thousands of casualties in battles fought all along the Tyrolean borders, with tens of war cemeteries built to bury the dead. You can easily find evidence of the absurdity of the statement that you re-installed by virtue of a power position, instead of using your knowledge of the themes discussed in the article. Before you intervene to defend a mediocre wiki page in need of thorough revisions, you should assess the validity of its contents, not just publish something just because ONE very questionable source is cited. How about evaluating the source? Did you do that? I can assure you that a source stating that no fighting happened in Tyrol is bogus, the same as saying that no fighting happened in Normandy during WWII. The Tyrolean front line was over 400 Km long, but that of course doesn`t count, because you decided that the `source` of the citation is valid. That would not get you a C on a freshman`s history essay. Furthermore, your comments are offensive and unsubstantiated, when, aside from blaming me for a typo that you could have fixed without much fuss, you imply that I made errors. Which ones? You didn`t elaborate; you just used your censorial ax and reverted EVERYTHING to a version filled with inaccuracies and language mistakes while, by your own admission, you ``agree... about the need to improve the article.`` If you recognize that need, since you play the expert`s role, why didn`t you say where and how the article should be improved? Your kind of editorial work must be very fulfilling - for you, but serves no purpose in terms of accuracy and readability. Wikipedia is a project written by informed people with a good attitude and openness towards learning. Where do you stand on that? Whatever your answer, it won`t matter to me, because I don`t subscribe to communication built on prevarication, which apparently you enjoy. I won`t engage. Good luck.
I have no idea who Jeppis is, but he has no standing to preach a sermon. I said that I was not going to engage WITH JEPPIZ because he is not discussing anything. He is simply imposing his censorship without any knowledge of the content he is censoring and without addressing my comments and changes on their merit. Therefore I am not engaging with Jeppiz. He is acting out of a position of self-avowed power behind the pretentious claim that he is following Wiki guidelines. I have explained in details why Jeppiz` censorial cuts were wrong, mainly because Jeppiz didn`t act constructively - like he implies, failing to verify whether the many inconsistencies in the articles were actually supported by the sources that he is so adamantly defending. Jeppiz failed to act responsibly as an editor and didn`t consider the merit of my comments. Had he done that, he would have found out that THE CITED SOURCES DID NOT SUPPORT THE STATEMENTS I critiqued in my comments. Before accusing others of vandalism, jeppiz needs to develop the necessary self-analitic skills to ensure that he will no longer overstep his role by censoring someone else`s work without any knowledge of the subject, which jeppiz clearly lacks. Again, I am writing this for other users, as I find it of little value to engage with someone who is not even reading my full changes and comments and is unable to address them in a professional manner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.151.117.48 ( talk) 00:17, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
My opinion: The newly written version seems to me clearly better and removes factual inaccuracies. For example, the statement that no fighting took place in the County of Tyrol is (excuse my French) plain bollocks... -- Mai-Sachme ( talk) 08:18, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
I came across very different statistics on another wiki page. I decided to check out the references and it seems that the person that put in the statistics in this article must have inadvertently switched German and Italian as both given sources show German as the majority language. ("New") numbers taken from the same sources as given earlier. Engman90 ( talk) 09:06, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
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Reading this page left me with a lot of questions of what is meant by "German". Does it refer to as simply being a native speaker of German (Germanophone)? Does it imply cultural affinity with northern German states, and not Austria? Does it imply a cultural geographic continuum between Austria? I think every usage of "German' referring to a person should be replaced with either Germanophone or Austrian or at least be clarified. 38.32.32.42 ( talk) 22:05, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
After reading this article I came up with some questions and comments.
1. "in Pauzana valle, quae lingua Teutisca Pozana nuncupatur".
I'm not well versed in Latin and I doubt many readers are as well. What's the translation?
2. "In 1277 Bolzano was conquered by Meinhard II, the Count of Tyrol, leading to a struggle between the counts of Tyrol and the bishops of Trent."
This sentence is weird. It talks about a conquest followed by a struggle. Can somebody rephrase it properly since the struggle typically comes before the conquest?
3. I do not agree with the title "Capital of an autonomous province". The section primarily talks about the province so it should be changed to "Autonomous province" for consistency with the text.
4. "This table shows the mayors of the city of Bolzano after 1945". There is no table next to it.
5. "Additionally, Reinhold Messner's experiences, collections and memories of the expeditions will be exhibited". It sounds like this may need to be updated.
6. Bolzano Festival Bozen? Not a clever name for an event (it does not even say what it's about).
7. "The Bolzano Christmas Market was founded in 1990 as Italy's first Christmas market" and "With over 1.2 million visitors (2005), the Bolzano Christmas Market is the most visited in Italy". I would like to see a source for both statements to prove the facts.
ICE77 ( talk) 19:20, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Winters are really dry (below 30mm), isn’t it making Bolzano a Cwa climate? דולב חולב ( talk) 02:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the proposal was withdrawn. JPG-GR ( talk) 05:57, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
According to the traffic stats
here and
here, the article for the city (
Bolzano) receives about twice as much traffic as the article for the person (
Bernard Bolzano) which is certainly more, but not (I think) so overwhelmingly more that the city qualifies as a primary usage for the name "Bolzano" (and the various disputes above
in the archive over the proper name for the city simply underscores this fact.)
I propose that the article on the city be moved to Bolzano (city) and that Bolzano be made a redirect to Bolzano (disambiguation) (or the disambiguation page moved here.) -- Sapphic ( talk) 21:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I'm not going to get in another edit war. I'll just come on here to state that the sentence claiming Bolzano was an ethnic German city, because 95% spoke German, is bogus. Mother tongue does not equal ethnicity, sorry to break it to you. My mother tongue is English, I am not English. Jean Alessi's mother tongue is French, he is not French. You all completely pass over the fact that the people of Trentino Alto Adige were essentially all Ladin speakers at one point, until the German language along with some ethnic Germans migrated and mixed into this area. There are people all over the province of Bolzano with dark hair and features, having surnames like Seppi, or Rainer, (two names I know go back for centuries in Bolzano) who speak the German language because it was under a German-speaking crown. duh! Of course these same families likely have mixed roots of German, maybe some people from Veneto, Friuli, whatever. The point is that the great thing about this region is this mixture, and all you seem intent on doing is making it trivial. I don't know how many times I have to explain this to the group who think this area was simply some purely German "ethnic" area that was invaded. I guess that makes it easier to process for some people's minds... @_@ Icsunonove ( talk) 09:46, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
It is not worth my time to keep track of your snide attacks and biased statements, which are way too often incredibly full of factual errors. I have better things to do; like expand the articles about South Tyrol - with historical facts, sources, references,... isn't that great! Soon we will be able to put POVs, original research, myths and factual errors all to rest. -- noclador ( talk) 01:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
The article says " With the end of the Roman empire a Bavarian immigration began and the first mentioning of a Bavarian count as ruler of Bozen dates from 679. The area has been settled by German populations since than." I don't know how much clearer it has to be that this is a Germanic city. The article says the city was settled by German populations since the year 679. The article also says "At the time of its annexation {after WW I}, Bozen was an ethnic German city, with a pre-war population of 30,000 people, 95.52% of whom were German native speakers." Also, Bozen was part of the German speaking country of Austria for how long? Over a millenia? Also, the reason Wikipedia refers to the city as Bolzano is not because Bolzano is the English name of the city. All English language encyclopedia's will refer to Bolzano and all other cities that were formerly German by the name the country they are now part of calls them. This goes for hundreds of cities taken from Germany and Austria since the end of WW I (Pilsen now PLZEN - Czech, Bozen now Bolzano - Italian, Danzig now Gdansk - Poland, Breslau now Wroclaw - Poland). Your attempts to deny the German history of this city are disgusting. Unfortunately, when it comes to anything German wikipedia will always be opposed to the German (and Austrian) point of view. Also, English is a Germanic language - derived from German. So, the the word Bolzano is used for the reason I explained above.
In addition, Italy is a beautiful country, but its not an accident that Bolzano or (Bozen) has the second highest standard of living in Italy. When the worlds best cities (ranked by standard of living) are published in magazines, there are typically 3 to 5 German speaking cities ranked in the top ten cities in the world (Zurich, Vienna, Munich). No other country has more than one city ranked in the top ten: The USA, the UK, France and Italy each don't have any cities that rank in the top ten.
You are biased, just as most of the wikipedia editors are. There is no question about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pgg804 ( talk • contribs) 03:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
After spending some time revising historic inaccuracies that were published without citing reliable sources and feeding mostly on common Italian historic rendition, I also realize that the article is a rough, approximate, and poor translation from Italian. Italian expressions are translated verbatim and as a result the English page reads awkward and unconvincing. Although I`ve edited several paragraphs that had been written and published with numerous English language issues, I believe that the article still needs major revisions, both with regard to contents and to English terminology and grammar.
SPECIFIC ISSUES IN THE CANCELLATION BY JEPPIZ:
``No fighting took place in the County of Tyrol during the First World War.`` Jeppiz claims that this statement is supported by the cited source. That is impossible. He failed to evaluate the source and double check whether the statement respects the source. The Tyrolean front line was over 400 Km long and there were thousands of casualties in battles fought all along the Tyrolean borders, with tens of war cemeteries built to bury the dead. You can easily find evidence of the absurdity of the statement
``Nevertheless, those Germans who opted to stay in South Tyrol ....` Jeppiz wrongly reverted to this version. Inhabitants of South Tyrol are not Germans, although they speak German. Jeppiz reverted to a clearly inaccurate version without investigating my changes.
ENTIRE PARAGRAPH ``In the 1920s, along with the rest of South Tyrol, Bolzano was subjected to an intensive Italianisation programme.........`` Jeppiz erased all my changes, for no reason. I had edited the paragraph to improve readability, grammar and English language issues, accuracy (the previous paragraph spoke of `those Germans` whereas historically South Tyroleans were not Germans, although they spoke German. The paragraph was poorly written and I made changes to improve that.
`` After 1943, heavy fighting against Nazi Germany and the Axis Powers took place in the Dolomite Alps once the Allied Powers had liberated Italy.`` Jeppiz mistakenly reverted to this version. He made two mistakes: First, there is no such thing as the Dolomite Alps. They are called DOLOMITES, or, likely acceptable in English, Dolomitic Alps. Second, the statement is virtually impossible. The Allied troops could not have fought in the Dolomites after Italy had been liberated, because the Dolomites are in Italy and therefore the statement is nonsensical. My reinstated version ameliorated both points.
`` independence movements gradually gained popularity among the Germanic population in Bolzano and South Tyrol.` Jeppiz cl,early has no knowledge of local history and erased my ALL comments based on dubious reasons. In this case, I had improved the narrative by erasing the word `gradually` since the local population had overwhelmingly sought re-unification with Austria. My other changes, erased by Jeppiz, were meant to improve readability, since the pre-existing paragraph was poorly written. Jeppiz deemed my changes to be worth of his ax.
``In 1996, the European Union approved of further integration of the Austrian state of Tyrol with the Germanic province of South Tyrol and Trentino (Welschtirol) in Italy.`` Jeppiz incorrectly reverted to this version which shows two inaccuracies: 1) Tyrol is not an Austrian state; it`s an Austrian province (Land and not Staat). 2)South Tyrol is not a Germanic province. In 1996 it was an Italian bilingual autonomous province. My correction was accurate and needed no axing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.151.117.48 ( talk) 18:37, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
I don`t know who you are, but evidently you play god with someone else`s work. The fact that you erased all my changes and reverted back to the original ``No fighting took place in the County of Tyrol during the First World War.`` proves your inadequacy as whatever your role is. There were thousands of casualties in battles fought all along the Tyrolean borders, with tens of war cemeteries built to bury the dead. You can easily find evidence of the absurdity of the statement that you re-installed by virtue of a power position, instead of using your knowledge of the themes discussed in the article. Before you intervene to defend a mediocre wiki page in need of thorough revisions, you should assess the validity of its contents, not just publish something just because ONE very questionable source is cited. How about evaluating the source? Did you do that? I can assure you that a source stating that no fighting happened in Tyrol is bogus, the same as saying that no fighting happened in Normandy during WWII. The Tyrolean front line was over 400 Km long, but that of course doesn`t count, because you decided that the `source` of the citation is valid. That would not get you a C on a freshman`s history essay. Furthermore, your comments are offensive and unsubstantiated, when, aside from blaming me for a typo that you could have fixed without much fuss, you imply that I made errors. Which ones? You didn`t elaborate; you just used your censorial ax and reverted EVERYTHING to a version filled with inaccuracies and language mistakes while, by your own admission, you ``agree... about the need to improve the article.`` If you recognize that need, since you play the expert`s role, why didn`t you say where and how the article should be improved? Your kind of editorial work must be very fulfilling - for you, but serves no purpose in terms of accuracy and readability. Wikipedia is a project written by informed people with a good attitude and openness towards learning. Where do you stand on that? Whatever your answer, it won`t matter to me, because I don`t subscribe to communication built on prevarication, which apparently you enjoy. I won`t engage. Good luck.
I have no idea who Jeppis is, but he has no standing to preach a sermon. I said that I was not going to engage WITH JEPPIZ because he is not discussing anything. He is simply imposing his censorship without any knowledge of the content he is censoring and without addressing my comments and changes on their merit. Therefore I am not engaging with Jeppiz. He is acting out of a position of self-avowed power behind the pretentious claim that he is following Wiki guidelines. I have explained in details why Jeppiz` censorial cuts were wrong, mainly because Jeppiz didn`t act constructively - like he implies, failing to verify whether the many inconsistencies in the articles were actually supported by the sources that he is so adamantly defending. Jeppiz failed to act responsibly as an editor and didn`t consider the merit of my comments. Had he done that, he would have found out that THE CITED SOURCES DID NOT SUPPORT THE STATEMENTS I critiqued in my comments. Before accusing others of vandalism, jeppiz needs to develop the necessary self-analitic skills to ensure that he will no longer overstep his role by censoring someone else`s work without any knowledge of the subject, which jeppiz clearly lacks. Again, I am writing this for other users, as I find it of little value to engage with someone who is not even reading my full changes and comments and is unable to address them in a professional manner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.151.117.48 ( talk) 00:17, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
My opinion: The newly written version seems to me clearly better and removes factual inaccuracies. For example, the statement that no fighting took place in the County of Tyrol is (excuse my French) plain bollocks... -- Mai-Sachme ( talk) 08:18, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
I came across very different statistics on another wiki page. I decided to check out the references and it seems that the person that put in the statistics in this article must have inadvertently switched German and Italian as both given sources show German as the majority language. ("New") numbers taken from the same sources as given earlier. Engman90 ( talk) 09:06, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
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Reading this page left me with a lot of questions of what is meant by "German". Does it refer to as simply being a native speaker of German (Germanophone)? Does it imply cultural affinity with northern German states, and not Austria? Does it imply a cultural geographic continuum between Austria? I think every usage of "German' referring to a person should be replaced with either Germanophone or Austrian or at least be clarified. 38.32.32.42 ( talk) 22:05, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
After reading this article I came up with some questions and comments.
1. "in Pauzana valle, quae lingua Teutisca Pozana nuncupatur".
I'm not well versed in Latin and I doubt many readers are as well. What's the translation?
2. "In 1277 Bolzano was conquered by Meinhard II, the Count of Tyrol, leading to a struggle between the counts of Tyrol and the bishops of Trent."
This sentence is weird. It talks about a conquest followed by a struggle. Can somebody rephrase it properly since the struggle typically comes before the conquest?
3. I do not agree with the title "Capital of an autonomous province". The section primarily talks about the province so it should be changed to "Autonomous province" for consistency with the text.
4. "This table shows the mayors of the city of Bolzano after 1945". There is no table next to it.
5. "Additionally, Reinhold Messner's experiences, collections and memories of the expeditions will be exhibited". It sounds like this may need to be updated.
6. Bolzano Festival Bozen? Not a clever name for an event (it does not even say what it's about).
7. "The Bolzano Christmas Market was founded in 1990 as Italy's first Christmas market" and "With over 1.2 million visitors (2005), the Bolzano Christmas Market is the most visited in Italy". I would like to see a source for both statements to prove the facts.
ICE77 ( talk) 19:20, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Winters are really dry (below 30mm), isn’t it making Bolzano a Cwa climate? דולב חולב ( talk) 02:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)