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Do you guys think Marianne (1996 song) should be merged here? I'm not sure how much can be said about that song besides what's right there on that page. It's not a single, it's not notorious for any reason, etc. A few lines in here should do. Right? I'm going to go ahead and try to incorporate the pertinent info here. -- Jacqui ★ 21:56, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
to correct the label and recording location info, but closed the preview screen before saving it. Then I noticed the errors concerning Marianne, and I guess since I used to live ten blocks from her and I know half a dozen or more people who went to junior high school with her, including Tori, I probably take that more personally than I do Tori's label info. (She was with Atlantic and eastwest for seven albums each, with eastwest starting with LE, with Atlantic as of YKTR, and first released on Epic in 2002--but only in the U.S.; who said Pele was on Epic? Do they not own a copy of the album and are thus unable to look at the label? Very curious. They also might have noticed the booklet credits which spoke about some recording in La., too, and whatever else it said. I don't have the CD in front of me right now so I'm not gonna check what it said, but the booklet notes are on Toriphoria, I believe: <yessaid.com>. I have other minor problems with the entry, but I've noticed nothing else that's a blatant factual error.)
was hoping you might edit the correction to the Marianne info. And as you seem to have put up most of the Marianne info, I thought I would write you as a courtesy.
spelled. I have no idea why that's spelled as it is; I never asked Tori. Whenever we've spoken it was always a rushed situation, and that was not a priority. I guess I need to offer evidence why I know that Maryanne Curtis went to Eastern Junior High School (now a middle school) with Tori rather than to high school with Tori at Richard Montgomery, so here it is: Tori's bio says she moved with her family in July 1978 to Rockville where she attended RMHS when her dad's parish was changed, and I know people who went to junior high and high school with Maryanne in Silver Spring where I'm from, and I've seen photos of Maryanne in the Blair yearbooks which were taken while Tori was at RMHS. I've also spoken with Tori about Maryanne, specifically pertaining to when she last saw Maryanne before moving to Rockville. So this is not a casual tidbit I picked up someplace. (I'm curious where your bit on Marianne came from, BTW. I don't mean to complain, I'm just wondering.)
didn't know her then--at all. [This bit censored as it's between "you and me" as Handal put it, but of course that means any evidence he offered couldn't be verified under Wikipedia's citation policy anyway -- J]
someone in their basement somewhere thought it up at the time for five minutes, it's entirely erroneous. Everyone I asked who knew her always understood that she'd died of an overdose, and the suicide idea was nothing I ever found that anyone had heard, either. Tori explained to me why she had that in her own mind and wrote the song that way and spoke of Maryanne's demise in those terms, but that's more personal than I care to share right now. Jason may have a transcript up of Tori talking about Maryanne on the 11 Feb 1996 WHFS radio interview, so you may want to look that up and include the Magdalene bit, while you're on Toriphoria.
difficult for me to write about this. I hope you'll understand. If you wanna blow me off, I can live with that. But please know that I mean no disrespect.
This is not a Tori Amos song per se, she merely contributes the vocals. I will leave mention of this song in the Boys for Pele article, but will delete it from the B-Sides chart.-- Pisceandreams 20:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
This article, much like all of the articles devoted to Tori Amos' albums, is in great need of re-working. Since this is my favorite album, I decided to start with this one. (And also because there is so much information to share about the inspiration, creation, and reaction to this album.) If anyone has anything noteworthy to add, please do so. Also, if anyone has any suggestions as to the breakdown of the article, share your thoughts. Thanks. :) -- Pisceandreams 14:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the following from the main BFP article. If anyone can provide a source for this, it can be replaced.
One song, "Marianne," details Amos' relationship with Marianne Curtis, a high school student from Montgomery County, Maryland, who died under questionable circumstances in the late 1970s. The death, which was actually due to an accidental drug overdose, was first suspected to be murder, and then later called a suicide.
-- Pisceandreams ( talk) 00:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
There is no evidence that this song was recorded during the "Boys For Pele" sessions and every evidence that is is in fact just a live improv song. Amos performed the song one time only, at a live radio show. She has never made mention of it since in the press (unlike other unreleased songs like "To the Fair Motormaids of Japan", which she has definitively stated was an unreleased song from this era.) There is some evidence to support that it was NOT recorded during the "Boys For Pele" sessions (if it was ever recorded at all); Amos revealed to a fan at a Meet & Greet that the character "Mr. P", references in the song lyrics, refers to "Mr. Puppethead," a character Amos made popular on Amos' tour AFTER the release of "Pele". TheGoonSquad ( talk) 05:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
It seems to me that the author of the article meant to imply that the "box in which Tori and her Instruments were enclosed" and "the leslie cabinet" are the same thing, which is plain bullshit.
I'm pretty sure he misenterpreted something he's read, basically I'm quite sure things worked preetty mushc like this: a vocal booth in the church was created out of some plexiglass, with holes for 'slipping in' the piano and harpsichord keyboard, which were thus acoustically isolated from the vocal booth. The Leslie speaker was fed signal from the piano mikes and recorded separately, in another room - I read somewhere that it was recorded in the graveyard chapel.
Sorry for sloppy english —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.193.5.35 ( talk) 09:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Couldn´t there be some more descriptions of the individual tracks, or that would be considered "original research"? WikiPBia ( talk) 16:47, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be mention of the controversy of one of the photos included with the CD - Tori Amos nursing a piglet? Jtyroler ( talk) 08:31, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
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I've loved Tori Amos since the early 90s, but owned only the first three albums. Never knew about the B-sides and all the lore around this album but - please - why no commentary on her covering CHAS & DAVE songs! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Birnam ( talk • contribs) 21:16, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
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Do you guys think Marianne (1996 song) should be merged here? I'm not sure how much can be said about that song besides what's right there on that page. It's not a single, it's not notorious for any reason, etc. A few lines in here should do. Right? I'm going to go ahead and try to incorporate the pertinent info here. -- Jacqui ★ 21:56, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
to correct the label and recording location info, but closed the preview screen before saving it. Then I noticed the errors concerning Marianne, and I guess since I used to live ten blocks from her and I know half a dozen or more people who went to junior high school with her, including Tori, I probably take that more personally than I do Tori's label info. (She was with Atlantic and eastwest for seven albums each, with eastwest starting with LE, with Atlantic as of YKTR, and first released on Epic in 2002--but only in the U.S.; who said Pele was on Epic? Do they not own a copy of the album and are thus unable to look at the label? Very curious. They also might have noticed the booklet credits which spoke about some recording in La., too, and whatever else it said. I don't have the CD in front of me right now so I'm not gonna check what it said, but the booklet notes are on Toriphoria, I believe: <yessaid.com>. I have other minor problems with the entry, but I've noticed nothing else that's a blatant factual error.)
was hoping you might edit the correction to the Marianne info. And as you seem to have put up most of the Marianne info, I thought I would write you as a courtesy.
spelled. I have no idea why that's spelled as it is; I never asked Tori. Whenever we've spoken it was always a rushed situation, and that was not a priority. I guess I need to offer evidence why I know that Maryanne Curtis went to Eastern Junior High School (now a middle school) with Tori rather than to high school with Tori at Richard Montgomery, so here it is: Tori's bio says she moved with her family in July 1978 to Rockville where she attended RMHS when her dad's parish was changed, and I know people who went to junior high and high school with Maryanne in Silver Spring where I'm from, and I've seen photos of Maryanne in the Blair yearbooks which were taken while Tori was at RMHS. I've also spoken with Tori about Maryanne, specifically pertaining to when she last saw Maryanne before moving to Rockville. So this is not a casual tidbit I picked up someplace. (I'm curious where your bit on Marianne came from, BTW. I don't mean to complain, I'm just wondering.)
didn't know her then--at all. [This bit censored as it's between "you and me" as Handal put it, but of course that means any evidence he offered couldn't be verified under Wikipedia's citation policy anyway -- J]
someone in their basement somewhere thought it up at the time for five minutes, it's entirely erroneous. Everyone I asked who knew her always understood that she'd died of an overdose, and the suicide idea was nothing I ever found that anyone had heard, either. Tori explained to me why she had that in her own mind and wrote the song that way and spoke of Maryanne's demise in those terms, but that's more personal than I care to share right now. Jason may have a transcript up of Tori talking about Maryanne on the 11 Feb 1996 WHFS radio interview, so you may want to look that up and include the Magdalene bit, while you're on Toriphoria.
difficult for me to write about this. I hope you'll understand. If you wanna blow me off, I can live with that. But please know that I mean no disrespect.
This is not a Tori Amos song per se, she merely contributes the vocals. I will leave mention of this song in the Boys for Pele article, but will delete it from the B-Sides chart.-- Pisceandreams 20:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
This article, much like all of the articles devoted to Tori Amos' albums, is in great need of re-working. Since this is my favorite album, I decided to start with this one. (And also because there is so much information to share about the inspiration, creation, and reaction to this album.) If anyone has anything noteworthy to add, please do so. Also, if anyone has any suggestions as to the breakdown of the article, share your thoughts. Thanks. :) -- Pisceandreams 14:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the following from the main BFP article. If anyone can provide a source for this, it can be replaced.
One song, "Marianne," details Amos' relationship with Marianne Curtis, a high school student from Montgomery County, Maryland, who died under questionable circumstances in the late 1970s. The death, which was actually due to an accidental drug overdose, was first suspected to be murder, and then later called a suicide.
-- Pisceandreams ( talk) 00:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
There is no evidence that this song was recorded during the "Boys For Pele" sessions and every evidence that is is in fact just a live improv song. Amos performed the song one time only, at a live radio show. She has never made mention of it since in the press (unlike other unreleased songs like "To the Fair Motormaids of Japan", which she has definitively stated was an unreleased song from this era.) There is some evidence to support that it was NOT recorded during the "Boys For Pele" sessions (if it was ever recorded at all); Amos revealed to a fan at a Meet & Greet that the character "Mr. P", references in the song lyrics, refers to "Mr. Puppethead," a character Amos made popular on Amos' tour AFTER the release of "Pele". TheGoonSquad ( talk) 05:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
It seems to me that the author of the article meant to imply that the "box in which Tori and her Instruments were enclosed" and "the leslie cabinet" are the same thing, which is plain bullshit.
I'm pretty sure he misenterpreted something he's read, basically I'm quite sure things worked preetty mushc like this: a vocal booth in the church was created out of some plexiglass, with holes for 'slipping in' the piano and harpsichord keyboard, which were thus acoustically isolated from the vocal booth. The Leslie speaker was fed signal from the piano mikes and recorded separately, in another room - I read somewhere that it was recorded in the graveyard chapel.
Sorry for sloppy english —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.193.5.35 ( talk) 09:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Couldn´t there be some more descriptions of the individual tracks, or that would be considered "original research"? WikiPBia ( talk) 16:47, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be mention of the controversy of one of the photos included with the CD - Tori Amos nursing a piglet? Jtyroler ( talk) 08:31, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
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I've loved Tori Amos since the early 90s, but owned only the first three albums. Never knew about the B-sides and all the lore around this album but - please - why no commentary on her covering CHAS & DAVE songs! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Birnam ( talk • contribs) 21:16, 13 March 2022 (UTC)