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I thought a bowtie was two streets intersecting each other at a slight angle, like Times Square? Sagittarian Milky Way 17:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Dumbbell interchange currently redirects to bowtie (road). However, the term is also defined at interchange (road) and diamond interchange. The definition should exist in only one of the articles, with a brief summary and a link in the other two. Crossposted to the other articles. -- Chaswmsday ( talk) 14:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones/ GG-J's Talk 21:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Btw. I am using Dia (software) for the example sketches and Inkscape to finish up the svg export file. I'll create some new ones since the names are clear defined. Maybe I'll GIMP the older ones. These drawings will be here -- Hans Haase ( talk) 08:18, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
"Far too smart for we Brits", @Gareth?. From other discussions in which I've been involved, y'all Brits have the terms
carriageway and
road verge, while we are often stuck with
circumlocutions or a jumble of obscure terms. (I don't come from a dialect where "y'all" is typically used; I just think English needs a plural form for "you".)
I guess these (
http://goo.gl/maps/WQ6Tv) interchanges on
Keystone Parkway in/near
Carmel, Indiana, USA are dogbones?
I too, thank @Hans for his cool sketches.
Now that we have another interchange type to worry about :) ... do we have any citations for them? I've found
[1] from the US
Federal Highway Administration about "the dog bone roundabout configuration ... at diamond-interchange intersections".
I've found "dumbbell"
[2] from the Kildare (Ireland) County Council. Is a local government "official" enough a reference, or should I try to find the "National Roads Design Office" mentioned? Also,
[3] from the UK; and
[4], from New Zealand.
It looks like
roundabout#Raindrop roundabouts also discusses them, where they're referred to as "raindrop" or "teardrop" interchanges. Where, oh where, are the proper homes for all of these terms? --
Chaswmsday (
talk) 21:06, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Is this real ? The present article does not mention a specific bowtie junction and though the picture/diagram is clear how it could work, there is no photo of an existing bowtie.
The only "reference" and three of the four external links (four ex-links, a bit too much) all point to PDF's. The only ref and all ex-links are all clearly not dedicated to this sort of junction but have a more general subject.
Also the one supposed ref is not really valid as a reference on Wikipedia, with solely the text "Jonathan Reid, P.E.: Unconventional Arterial Intersection Design July 2004, P. 66-67, retrieved on 9 February 2013". By whom? and where? was it published and why should we trust? the unknown publisher and the supposed writer Jonathan Reid? After seeing this mess, it did not surprise me to see that this only ref [5] is now a very dead link. And three of the four external links are also dead (completely dead or redirected to a non-relevant page).
I am really shocked that on the en-wikipedia nobody seems to care about the above mentioned issues (I have to say/dare to say this now because there were allready many reactions on this talk page about minor issues, so people were seeing that this page is not impeccable, yet they chose to only react on minor issues). Though Bowtie (road) is surely not the most important article, we still have to care for the quality of Wikipedia. This article evidently is not acceptable in the present state.
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I thought a bowtie was two streets intersecting each other at a slight angle, like Times Square? Sagittarian Milky Way 17:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Dumbbell interchange currently redirects to bowtie (road). However, the term is also defined at interchange (road) and diamond interchange. The definition should exist in only one of the articles, with a brief summary and a link in the other two. Crossposted to the other articles. -- Chaswmsday ( talk) 14:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones/ GG-J's Talk 21:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Btw. I am using Dia (software) for the example sketches and Inkscape to finish up the svg export file. I'll create some new ones since the names are clear defined. Maybe I'll GIMP the older ones. These drawings will be here -- Hans Haase ( talk) 08:18, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
"Far too smart for we Brits", @Gareth?. From other discussions in which I've been involved, y'all Brits have the terms
carriageway and
road verge, while we are often stuck with
circumlocutions or a jumble of obscure terms. (I don't come from a dialect where "y'all" is typically used; I just think English needs a plural form for "you".)
I guess these (
http://goo.gl/maps/WQ6Tv) interchanges on
Keystone Parkway in/near
Carmel, Indiana, USA are dogbones?
I too, thank @Hans for his cool sketches.
Now that we have another interchange type to worry about :) ... do we have any citations for them? I've found
[1] from the US
Federal Highway Administration about "the dog bone roundabout configuration ... at diamond-interchange intersections".
I've found "dumbbell"
[2] from the Kildare (Ireland) County Council. Is a local government "official" enough a reference, or should I try to find the "National Roads Design Office" mentioned? Also,
[3] from the UK; and
[4], from New Zealand.
It looks like
roundabout#Raindrop roundabouts also discusses them, where they're referred to as "raindrop" or "teardrop" interchanges. Where, oh where, are the proper homes for all of these terms? --
Chaswmsday (
talk) 21:06, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Is this real ? The present article does not mention a specific bowtie junction and though the picture/diagram is clear how it could work, there is no photo of an existing bowtie.
The only "reference" and three of the four external links (four ex-links, a bit too much) all point to PDF's. The only ref and all ex-links are all clearly not dedicated to this sort of junction but have a more general subject.
Also the one supposed ref is not really valid as a reference on Wikipedia, with solely the text "Jonathan Reid, P.E.: Unconventional Arterial Intersection Design July 2004, P. 66-67, retrieved on 9 February 2013". By whom? and where? was it published and why should we trust? the unknown publisher and the supposed writer Jonathan Reid? After seeing this mess, it did not surprise me to see that this only ref [5] is now a very dead link. And three of the four external links are also dead (completely dead or redirected to a non-relevant page).
I am really shocked that on the en-wikipedia nobody seems to care about the above mentioned issues (I have to say/dare to say this now because there were allready many reactions on this talk page about minor issues, so people were seeing that this page is not impeccable, yet they chose to only react on minor issues). Though Bowtie (road) is surely not the most important article, we still have to care for the quality of Wikipedia. This article evidently is not acceptable in the present state.
yours , -- Paulbe ( talk) 23:53, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
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