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I reverted the changes to the final sentence in the education section. No school in Bothell is part of the Edmonds School District, there are no Edmonds School District schools in Bothell, and there is no connection between the two school districts. The list of Edmonds schools are available at http://www.edmonds.wednet.edu/schools/default.cfm, and the map of those schools is at http://www.edmonds.wednet.edu/about/map/elemmap.cfm (the secondary school coverage is the same). See Northshore School District to compare. Brier is within the Edmonds district. There are places where Brier borders on Bothell on its northeast, but none of the areas covered by Brier schools are in Bothell. In any case, even if there were some slight overlap the added text was incorrect.
I've heard that Koganei, Tokyo is the sister-city to Bothell. If someone can confirm this, please add this info. I do know that Cedar Park Christian School in Bothell has had several exchange students travel to Koganei (and vice-versa). -- Eptin 08:02, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Is the "Politics" section intentionally bolded instead of section-headed? It looks wrong as it is. Solarbird 16:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
As far as I know Ben Gibbard never lived in Bothell (as it states in the Residents section)... any sources? Abcdemily 03:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia guidelines, I deleted the Trivia section. I think I'm the user who created this section in the first place, moving information that was in History that didn't really belong there. Rather than delete the content, I moved it into a new Culture section (matching usage for other city articles). I made the existing Civic Events section into a subsection here, and created a Sports subsection with information from the trivia section (and new info about Pop Keeney Stadium) and grouped everything else in an admittedly nebulous "Popular Culture" subsection. All three items in that section are national media references or events that featured Bothell. It's possible none of these items are encyclopedic enough to really belong in the article at all, but I didn't want to make that call without opening a discussion. The Blake Lewis item in particular is probably more relevant for the Blake Lewis article. I also think the list of famous people from Bothell is also probably not necessary for this article, and not standard practice in most city articles, but I don't want to make that call either. Llachglin 01:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure we have the motto right. An official source for that would be great, but I don't know if that's possible. I know it's what we have on our welcome signs. As far as I know, it might be just "Bothell - For a day or a lifetime" or "For a day or a lifetime". I can't just trust that the full text of the sign coming into town is the official motto. I've seen Bothellites using different versions.
This Seattle Times article gives the motto as "For a Day or a Lifetime"
Even looking at the city's official site lends credibility to the shorter version, it seems to me. Its graphics read:
The City of Bothell
Welcomes you...for a day or a lifetime
You see that? It has the "For a day or a lifetime" part, but the rest is just rearranged in front of it.
Hmm...*strokes beard*
Misha Vargas in Bothell ( talk) 11:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
I grew up in the city and the note about "Hype" is funny because I remember when that happened. It was a very common occurance among the local teen population in the 1990s (i.e. spraying the BOT out of the welcome sign). Welcome To Hell For A Day Or A Lifetime was a motto among the Bothell High classes of the early '90s. HansEworth ( talk) 17:32, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
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Article is okay. History section needs more references along with the notable people. -- Hdt83 Chat 22:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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In "Geography", it is stated: "According to the City of Bothell, the city has a total area of 13.7 square miles (35.48 km2), all of it land."
How can that be? The Sammamish River cuts right through Bothell. Note that the cited source does not support the assertion that all of Bothell's area is land. So I am going to modify that statement. -- Alan W ( talk) 05:59, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
The first paragraph of the history section features incorrect information. I am going to post the correct information here since my corrections keep getting reverted.
Current:
[1]
"The Sammamish River valley from Lake Washington to Issaquah Creek was historically inhabited by the indigenous Sammamish people ( Lushootseed: sc̓ababš; also known as the "s-tah-PAHBSH", or "willow people"), a Coast Salish group with an estimated population of 80 to 200 by 1850. Among them were the "ssts'p-abc" ("meander dwellers"), who settled near the river's mouth at two villages—the larger of which was "tlah-WAH-dees" between modern-day Kenmore and Bothell. Most of the Sammamish were removed from their lands in 1856 following the Puget Sound War and assigned to the Port Madison and Tulalip reservations."
My proposed changes: [2]
"The Sammamish River valley from Lake Washington to Issaquah Creek was first inhabited by the Indigenous Sammamish people ( Lushootseed: sc̓ababš), a Coast Salish group with an estimated population of 80 to 200 around 1850. The Sammamish had a major winter village, ƛ̕ax̌ʷadis, at the mouth of the Sammamish River, between what is now Bothell and Kenmore. Although the Sammamish resisted removal efforts by settlers, they were eventually removed to Fort Kitsap following the 1855-1856 Puget Sound War. Some Sammamish continued to live in the area, working as laborers and farmers, but after the removal of the majority from ƛ̕ax̌ʷadis, the village was destroyed."
Here are my comments, which are OR but at this point I am justifying their existence:
"...inhabited by the indigenous Sammamish people ( Lushootseed: sc̓ababš; also known as the "s-tah-PAHBSH" [sic; it is written "s-tsah-PAHBSH" in the source on p. 31], or "willow people")..."
"Among them were the "ssts'p-abc" ("meander dwellers")..."
"...who settled near the river's mouth at two villages—the larger of which was "tlah-WAH-dees" between modern-day Kenmore and Bothell."
"Most of the Sammamish were removed from their lands in 1856 following the Puget Sound War and assigned to the Port Madison and Tulalip reservations."
References
PersusjCP ( talk) 20:17, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Additionally, I find it wrong that SB declared his denials of PersusjCP's edits based on absolutism (see use of aggressive "period" in first reply) and that his accusations of lack of civility from PjCP (in this topic conversation) to be unwarranted and entirely unsupported. Also, that PjCP cannot continue to explain themselves, or their efforts, should stop because of SB's stress levels is out-of-bounds and not material. In closing, PjCP's worries over feeling threatened are valid - "this is wandering into contentious territory and is unacceptable". Dismissing the claim as absurd, immediately after SB writes about their stress, is concerning.
SB's above actions - denying the use of a RS, denying content, denying a right for a user to explain their efforts - and using GA nomination status, unseen personal attacks, and mental health concerns to back his command over the article, to be highly questionable and should be noted to the future GA reviewer(s) of the Bothell page. If PersusjCP wishes to expand on the Sammamish people's history before or after the creation of Bothell, based on their original written words in this topic, they should be able to do so without impediment. Shortiefourten ( talk) 18:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
@ SounderBruce, PKT, and Pfly: Hi, all three of you have placed redlinks to North Creek (Washington) in various articles. Considering that there is no Wikidata item for the North Creek that flows through Bothell, but instead there are two other Wikidata items for streams known as North Creek in Washington state, North Creek (Q99215893) & North Creek (Q109507411). Using North Creek (Washington) thus might be better suited for a disambiguation page.
Perhaps it would be better to link instead to North Creek, Washington#Geography for these particular articles, as that section does describe the North Creek that flows through Bothell. If you concur, I can move forward with that. Peaceray ( talk) 17:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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I reverted the changes to the final sentence in the education section. No school in Bothell is part of the Edmonds School District, there are no Edmonds School District schools in Bothell, and there is no connection between the two school districts. The list of Edmonds schools are available at http://www.edmonds.wednet.edu/schools/default.cfm, and the map of those schools is at http://www.edmonds.wednet.edu/about/map/elemmap.cfm (the secondary school coverage is the same). See Northshore School District to compare. Brier is within the Edmonds district. There are places where Brier borders on Bothell on its northeast, but none of the areas covered by Brier schools are in Bothell. In any case, even if there were some slight overlap the added text was incorrect.
I've heard that Koganei, Tokyo is the sister-city to Bothell. If someone can confirm this, please add this info. I do know that Cedar Park Christian School in Bothell has had several exchange students travel to Koganei (and vice-versa). -- Eptin 08:02, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Is the "Politics" section intentionally bolded instead of section-headed? It looks wrong as it is. Solarbird 16:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
As far as I know Ben Gibbard never lived in Bothell (as it states in the Residents section)... any sources? Abcdemily 03:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia guidelines, I deleted the Trivia section. I think I'm the user who created this section in the first place, moving information that was in History that didn't really belong there. Rather than delete the content, I moved it into a new Culture section (matching usage for other city articles). I made the existing Civic Events section into a subsection here, and created a Sports subsection with information from the trivia section (and new info about Pop Keeney Stadium) and grouped everything else in an admittedly nebulous "Popular Culture" subsection. All three items in that section are national media references or events that featured Bothell. It's possible none of these items are encyclopedic enough to really belong in the article at all, but I didn't want to make that call without opening a discussion. The Blake Lewis item in particular is probably more relevant for the Blake Lewis article. I also think the list of famous people from Bothell is also probably not necessary for this article, and not standard practice in most city articles, but I don't want to make that call either. Llachglin 01:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure we have the motto right. An official source for that would be great, but I don't know if that's possible. I know it's what we have on our welcome signs. As far as I know, it might be just "Bothell - For a day or a lifetime" or "For a day or a lifetime". I can't just trust that the full text of the sign coming into town is the official motto. I've seen Bothellites using different versions.
This Seattle Times article gives the motto as "For a Day or a Lifetime"
Even looking at the city's official site lends credibility to the shorter version, it seems to me. Its graphics read:
The City of Bothell
Welcomes you...for a day or a lifetime
You see that? It has the "For a day or a lifetime" part, but the rest is just rearranged in front of it.
Hmm...*strokes beard*
Misha Vargas in Bothell ( talk) 11:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
I grew up in the city and the note about "Hype" is funny because I remember when that happened. It was a very common occurance among the local teen population in the 1990s (i.e. spraying the BOT out of the welcome sign). Welcome To Hell For A Day Or A Lifetime was a motto among the Bothell High classes of the early '90s. HansEworth ( talk) 17:32, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Bothell, Washington/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Article is okay. History section needs more references along with the notable people. -- Hdt83 Chat 22:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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In "Geography", it is stated: "According to the City of Bothell, the city has a total area of 13.7 square miles (35.48 km2), all of it land."
How can that be? The Sammamish River cuts right through Bothell. Note that the cited source does not support the assertion that all of Bothell's area is land. So I am going to modify that statement. -- Alan W ( talk) 05:59, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
The first paragraph of the history section features incorrect information. I am going to post the correct information here since my corrections keep getting reverted.
Current:
[1]
"The Sammamish River valley from Lake Washington to Issaquah Creek was historically inhabited by the indigenous Sammamish people ( Lushootseed: sc̓ababš; also known as the "s-tah-PAHBSH", or "willow people"), a Coast Salish group with an estimated population of 80 to 200 by 1850. Among them were the "ssts'p-abc" ("meander dwellers"), who settled near the river's mouth at two villages—the larger of which was "tlah-WAH-dees" between modern-day Kenmore and Bothell. Most of the Sammamish were removed from their lands in 1856 following the Puget Sound War and assigned to the Port Madison and Tulalip reservations."
My proposed changes: [2]
"The Sammamish River valley from Lake Washington to Issaquah Creek was first inhabited by the Indigenous Sammamish people ( Lushootseed: sc̓ababš), a Coast Salish group with an estimated population of 80 to 200 around 1850. The Sammamish had a major winter village, ƛ̕ax̌ʷadis, at the mouth of the Sammamish River, between what is now Bothell and Kenmore. Although the Sammamish resisted removal efforts by settlers, they were eventually removed to Fort Kitsap following the 1855-1856 Puget Sound War. Some Sammamish continued to live in the area, working as laborers and farmers, but after the removal of the majority from ƛ̕ax̌ʷadis, the village was destroyed."
Here are my comments, which are OR but at this point I am justifying their existence:
"...inhabited by the indigenous Sammamish people ( Lushootseed: sc̓ababš; also known as the "s-tah-PAHBSH" [sic; it is written "s-tsah-PAHBSH" in the source on p. 31], or "willow people")..."
"Among them were the "ssts'p-abc" ("meander dwellers")..."
"...who settled near the river's mouth at two villages—the larger of which was "tlah-WAH-dees" between modern-day Kenmore and Bothell."
"Most of the Sammamish were removed from their lands in 1856 following the Puget Sound War and assigned to the Port Madison and Tulalip reservations."
References
PersusjCP ( talk) 20:17, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Additionally, I find it wrong that SB declared his denials of PersusjCP's edits based on absolutism (see use of aggressive "period" in first reply) and that his accusations of lack of civility from PjCP (in this topic conversation) to be unwarranted and entirely unsupported. Also, that PjCP cannot continue to explain themselves, or their efforts, should stop because of SB's stress levels is out-of-bounds and not material. In closing, PjCP's worries over feeling threatened are valid - "this is wandering into contentious territory and is unacceptable". Dismissing the claim as absurd, immediately after SB writes about their stress, is concerning.
SB's above actions - denying the use of a RS, denying content, denying a right for a user to explain their efforts - and using GA nomination status, unseen personal attacks, and mental health concerns to back his command over the article, to be highly questionable and should be noted to the future GA reviewer(s) of the Bothell page. If PersusjCP wishes to expand on the Sammamish people's history before or after the creation of Bothell, based on their original written words in this topic, they should be able to do so without impediment. Shortiefourten ( talk) 18:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
@ SounderBruce, PKT, and Pfly: Hi, all three of you have placed redlinks to North Creek (Washington) in various articles. Considering that there is no Wikidata item for the North Creek that flows through Bothell, but instead there are two other Wikidata items for streams known as North Creek in Washington state, North Creek (Q99215893) & North Creek (Q109507411). Using North Creek (Washington) thus might be better suited for a disambiguation page.
Perhaps it would be better to link instead to North Creek, Washington#Geography for these particular articles, as that section does describe the North Creek that flows through Bothell. If you concur, I can move forward with that. Peaceray ( talk) 17:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)