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Repaints vs. Redecos: Not all of the BotCon exclusives are straight repaints, as they often include some minor remolding (starting with BotCon Arcee, at least one toy each year has had at least one new-sculpt piece). Also, a repaint implies that the paint masks from the original toy have not been changed except for the actual paint colors, whereas in a redeco, the paint masks are altered to create new paint patterns. The majority of BotCon toys have been redecos, starting with Nightracer, who had different paint applications than Bumblebee, as noted in the article. Hooper_X 21:49, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Should these two entities be seperated since OTFCC really had nothing to do with BotCon and was put on because of the seperation between Hallit and the Hartmans. They even ran "opposing" shows in '04. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.14.200.142 ( talk) 04:43, September 19, 2006
I have had to repeatedly remove this entire section because it is selective and misleading. I have asked the person who keeps putting it here if he can justify it--let's see if he can.
The first announcement of the prices of the exclusives came from Brian Savage, in public before a huge audience, and he gave the correct price. The order form attendees had to fill out to purchase these toys had the correct price. The lower, incorrect price only appears in the convention pamphlet, which was made available after Savage's in-person announcement and at the same time as the corrected order sheet.
Since the incorrect numbers came out LAST, they cannot by any stretch of the imagination be said to have been an advertisement, let alone a false advertisement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.178.243.105 ( talk) 13:15, October 4, 2006
I don't think there was, it didn't even say on the website, those should be removed! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.204.215 ( talk) 01:01, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Content seems rather unencyclopedic. I don't see the point in listing all that stuff here. NotARealWord ( talk) 17:27, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Could we hide/show the toy list and the guest list? It would make the article shorter unless more detail is desired.-- King Bedford I Seek his grace 00:33, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay, why even think that you can get your way by starting some one sided vote. Wikipedia is not a democracy. The truth is that bunch of toys in an article about themed convention is pure fancruft, plain simple. It has no place here so why fight for some that going to get removed regardless. A lot of these conventions give all kinds of exclusive SWAG all the time. So what make what they give any more important than all the other stuff from Comicon or E3? Lets just get rid of it and be done with it. In the paragraph describing the convention just state that the show has been known for featuring exclusive toy and other collectibles for the attendees.
For the conventions hosted by Fun Publications, the box sets are limited to those who have booked a stay at the appropriate hotel. The bagged sets are available for anyone who attends. I don't know about the exclusives during the 3H years, though. NotARealWord ( talk) 23:24, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
The article says this:
Note: Many unreferenced details in this article originated from the organizers' discussion panels during the conventions, which are currently unavailable in a publicly-viewable format.
I'm not sure what "details" this refers to. Convention guest lists , locations and schedules are available at the BotCon website. NotARealWord ( talk) 21:18, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
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The toy list takes up two thirds of the entire article. It really should be removed, or at least seriously trimmed. JIP | Talk 09:57, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Two-thirds of the article consists of lists: locations, special guests and Transformers Hall of Fame. Before the list of exclusive toys was removed, it was even worse: five-sixths of the article was lists. I just tested in a text editor what the article would look like without lists, and it read much better. Should the lists be removed? JIP | Talk 13:21, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
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Repaints vs. Redecos: Not all of the BotCon exclusives are straight repaints, as they often include some minor remolding (starting with BotCon Arcee, at least one toy each year has had at least one new-sculpt piece). Also, a repaint implies that the paint masks from the original toy have not been changed except for the actual paint colors, whereas in a redeco, the paint masks are altered to create new paint patterns. The majority of BotCon toys have been redecos, starting with Nightracer, who had different paint applications than Bumblebee, as noted in the article. Hooper_X 21:49, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Should these two entities be seperated since OTFCC really had nothing to do with BotCon and was put on because of the seperation between Hallit and the Hartmans. They even ran "opposing" shows in '04. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.14.200.142 ( talk) 04:43, September 19, 2006
I have had to repeatedly remove this entire section because it is selective and misleading. I have asked the person who keeps putting it here if he can justify it--let's see if he can.
The first announcement of the prices of the exclusives came from Brian Savage, in public before a huge audience, and he gave the correct price. The order form attendees had to fill out to purchase these toys had the correct price. The lower, incorrect price only appears in the convention pamphlet, which was made available after Savage's in-person announcement and at the same time as the corrected order sheet.
Since the incorrect numbers came out LAST, they cannot by any stretch of the imagination be said to have been an advertisement, let alone a false advertisement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.178.243.105 ( talk) 13:15, October 4, 2006
I don't think there was, it didn't even say on the website, those should be removed! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.204.215 ( talk) 01:01, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Content seems rather unencyclopedic. I don't see the point in listing all that stuff here. NotARealWord ( talk) 17:27, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Could we hide/show the toy list and the guest list? It would make the article shorter unless more detail is desired.-- King Bedford I Seek his grace 00:33, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay, why even think that you can get your way by starting some one sided vote. Wikipedia is not a democracy. The truth is that bunch of toys in an article about themed convention is pure fancruft, plain simple. It has no place here so why fight for some that going to get removed regardless. A lot of these conventions give all kinds of exclusive SWAG all the time. So what make what they give any more important than all the other stuff from Comicon or E3? Lets just get rid of it and be done with it. In the paragraph describing the convention just state that the show has been known for featuring exclusive toy and other collectibles for the attendees.
For the conventions hosted by Fun Publications, the box sets are limited to those who have booked a stay at the appropriate hotel. The bagged sets are available for anyone who attends. I don't know about the exclusives during the 3H years, though. NotARealWord ( talk) 23:24, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
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Note: Many unreferenced details in this article originated from the organizers' discussion panels during the conventions, which are currently unavailable in a publicly-viewable format.
I'm not sure what "details" this refers to. Convention guest lists , locations and schedules are available at the BotCon website. NotARealWord ( talk) 21:18, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
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The toy list takes up two thirds of the entire article. It really should be removed, or at least seriously trimmed. JIP | Talk 09:57, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Two-thirds of the article consists of lists: locations, special guests and Transformers Hall of Fame. Before the list of exclusive toys was removed, it was even worse: five-sixths of the article was lists. I just tested in a text editor what the article would look like without lists, and it read much better. Should the lists be removed? JIP | Talk 13:21, 30 August 2020 (UTC)