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Some of the colleges and schools (listed in the "Colleges and Schools" category) should really have their own pages. Particularly CGS and MET (2 programs within MET have their own pages, but MET itself does not). These are important parts of BU and have notable alumni. Hbomberman ( talk) 21:25, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm unable to find any sources stating that Boston University has a current affiliation with the Methodist church, I can find many mentions of it historically, but several that state it isn't the case currently. Could I get some clarification? Falcon8765 (TALK) 00:48, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Boston University has been historically affiliated with the United Methodist Church since 1839 when the Newbury Biblical Institute, the first Methodist seminary in the United States was established in Newbury, Vermont.
Although most are liberal arts colleges with enrollments between 800 and 2,000 students, church-related higher education also includes large research universities (Boston University, Notre Dame, for example), medical colleges, professional schools, two-year colleges, theological seminaries, and Bible colleges. Many religiously affiliated colleges regularly are highly ranked in various "best colleges" ratings in the United States.
The University Scholar/Teacher of the Year Award, established by the General Board of Higher Education and Ministry of The United Methodist Church, is conferred at colleges and universities historically affiliated with it.
Hello Anupam, Thank you for writing. Boston University is a United Methodist-related school. See the list for the Northeastern region on the General Board of Higher Education and Ministry website: http://www.gbhem.org/site/c.lsKSL3POLvF/b.5392245/k.9EB1/Schools_by_Region.htm
Hi all.
I have done some more research on the issue and have found several sources that support that the university has no religious affiliation. Additionally, I called the University and spoke with a Mr. Bode Wilson in admissions to confirm what I had found online. The new sources that I have not seen previously in this discussion are as follows, Princeton review [5], U.S. news [6] and, the college board [7]. All of the sources are independent non-biased sources who get their information directly from the University. The contact information for Mr. Bode Wilson, Admissions Coordinator, Boston University Undergraduate Admissions, Phone: (617) 353-2300.
Additionally, I don't see the reliance of having the "historically" related to the methodist church within the first paragraph of the page. If it isn't currently related why does it need to be in the first paragraph? It would be better suited to go under the historical information subsection.-- Robocop729 ( talk) 18:34, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Consensus is not a vote, but even if it were, you've left out two other users (and me) who've questioned the affiliation, and we cannot simply invalidate the concerns and sources provided by bowjangles because of a likely connection with a sock. It looks like this is what we have for references:
This seems fairly clear-cut. BU backs up a historical affiliation, and an affiliation with their school of theology, but makes no statement about current affiliation with their main school. The only sources provided to support a current affiliation are published by the UMC and extremely ambiguous, often making no explicit statement. Then, we have 3 independent sources (including the National Center for Education Statistics) explicitly stating "no religious affiliation". We should move the religious affiliation in the infobox and text to Boston University School of Theology, and make mention of a historical connection in the History section. Anything more than that isn't supported by the sources presented thus far. — Jess· Δ ♥ 18:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Boston University has been historically affiliated with the United Methodist Church since 1839 when the Newbury Biblical Institute, the first Methodist seminary in the United States was established in Newbury, Vermont.
The University Scholar/Teacher of the Year Award, established by the General Board of Higher Education and Ministry of The United Methodist Church, is conferred at colleges and universities historically affiliated with it.
Emory University in Atlanta is ranked 20th. Other United Methodist schools on the top national list are Syracuse (N.Y.) University (tied for 52nd); Boston University (tied for 56th); Southern Methodist University, Dallas (tied for 71st); and American University, Washington (tied for 86th).
Boston University
One Sherborn Street
Boston MA 02215
Phone: (617) 353-2000
BOSTON UNIVERSITY
Dr. Robert A. Brown, President
One Sherborn Street
Boston, MA 02215
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Main Phone: (617) 353-2000
Fax: (617) 353-3278
Primary Email: rabrown@bu.edu
Web:
http://www.sthweb.bu.edu
Denomination: United Methodist
Year established: 1839
Student enrollment: 31,698
Baccalaureate
Post-baccalaureate
Although most are liberal arts colleges with enrollments between 800 and 2,000 students, church-related higher education also includes large research universities (Boston University, Notre Dame, for example), medical colleges, professional schools, two-year colleges, theological seminaries, and Bible colleges. Many religiously affiliated colleges regularly are highly ranked in various "best colleges" ratings in the United States.
Emory University, an academic institution of higher education that is under the auspices of the United Methodist Church (Duke University, Boston University, Northwestern University are among other elite universities belonging to the United Methodist Church
Among Protestant denominations, Methodists take first place in hospitals and colleges. Some of their one hundred colleges and universities have all but severed ties with the denominations, but others remain definitely Methodist: Syracuse, Boston, Emory, Duke, Drew, Denver, and Southern Methodist. The church operates three hundred sixty schools and institutions overseas. Methodists established Goodwill Industries in 1907 to help handicapped persons help themselves by repairing and selling old furniture and clothes. The United Methodist Church runs seventy-two hospitals in the United States.
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Among Protestant denominations, Methodists take first place in hospitals and colleges. Some of their one hundred colleges and universities have all but severed ties with the denominations, but others remain definitely Methodist: Syracuse, Boston, Emory, Duke, Drew, Denver, and Southern Methodist. The church operates three hundred sixty schools and institutions overseas. Methodists established Goodwill Industries in 1907 to help handicapped persons help themselves by repairing and selling old furniture and clothes. The United Methodist Church runs seventy-two hospitals in the United States.
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Boston, MA 02215
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Main Phone: (617) 353-2000
Fax: (617) 353-3278
Primary Email: rabrown@bu.edu
Web: http://www.sthweb.bu.edu
Denomination: United Methodist
Year established: 1839
Student enrollment: 31,698
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Other United Methodist schools on the top national list are Syracuse (N.Y.) University (tied for 52nd); Boston University (tied for 56th); Southern Methodist University, Dallas (tied for 71st); and American University, Washington (tied for 86th).
OEmory University, an academic institution of higher education that is under the auspices of the United Methodist Church (Duke University, Boston University, Northwestern University are among other elite universities belonging to the United Methodist Church).
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A recent edit removed this paragraph:
Do we want to put it back in? It is an interesting tidbit, if true. BU is one of my almae matres but I have never heard that version of the song. OTH I have also never attended a BU sporting event (nor any other sporting event if I could help it). Dave ( djkernen)| Talk to me| Please help! 14:42, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
I just got back from visiting the campus and the pics on here do not do the campus any justice. The Eli Weisel Center for Judaic Studies and the Center for International Relations were gorgeous buildings. As was the BU Castle and the Pub underneath it.
Please add some more flattering pics to this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.164.66.120 ( talk) 20:39, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
Parts of this article read as if taken fr/ BU advertising brochures. Plans for future development were pared down, and peacock language has been replaced. Tapered ( talk) 18:34, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Please add a local street map highlighting the campus area and buildings.- 71.174.188.32 ( talk) 00:11, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Is there some special reason that Oscar winner Olympia Dukakis was omitted from the Arts notable Alumni section? There is somebody else who is there that I would be happy to see removed. That name will not be given. Olympia's Oscar was for Best Supporting Actress in Moonstruck. The source for me is IMDB but you probably want to cite the Oscar association pages. She is still active at about age 87 surviving her only spouse who died in early 2018. That alone is a record for people in Hollywood. hhhobbit ( talk) 08:38, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
1968 Olympic 400m hurdles gold medalist David Hemery [1] was a student at BU in the 1960s, and a coach in the 1970s and 1980s.
John Thomas [2] attended BU in the early 1960s and he won a silver medal in the Olympic High Jump. He was an assistant track coach at BU during the 1970s.
I don't have references for these athletics or I would have put them in the prominent alumni myself.
Endo999 ( talk) 02:18, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
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BU has a tradition of using three-letter abbreviations (e.g. FAS, CFA, SAR, MET) for its various schools, and changing them from time to time. To make it easier to decode them, I propose adding two new columns to the table which currently lists only the dates of establishment. One column should show the current official trigram, while the other column should list any previous letter codes used, and possibly what names they once stood for. Reify-tech ( talk) 22:20, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
A campus map is needed, showing where each college or academic program is located. A URL referencing an official BU map would be OK. Tziril ( talk) 05:34, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
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Can the unregistered editor who insists on removing the (well-sourced) historical Methodist affiliation from the infobox please explain their edits? Thanks! ElKevbo ( talk) 04:51, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
Should the CDS be added to the section about the schools and colleges? The official classification of it is an academic unit and not actually a school/college Ksirz ( talk) 02:35, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
The Kilachand Honors College is not a degree-granting college nor is it a major program [1]. Graduates of the Kilachand Honors College receive their degrees from one of the established colleges. Rather, it is a special program wherein students get specialized supervising, a separate residence hall, and complete a keystone project. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swordfish31 ( talk • contribs) 05:54, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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The historic affiliation with the United Methodist Church is already explained in the body paragraphs of the article. It is unnecessary to repeat this in the beginning. Rather, the beginning should provide details about the founding of the university, as can be seen with the introductions of peer institutions on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swordfish31 ( talk • contribs) 05:59, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Given that BU is nonsectarian, this mention of a non-existent religious affiliation in the info box is inappropriate. See Northwestern University, where the historic affiliation to the United Methodist Church was removed from the infobox. Swordfish31 ( talk) 02:21, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Other pages seem to have essentially a giant slew of pictures under the notable alumni section. Would this be something favorable here? I am honestly a bit more in the camp of including this, as it seems to be a bit more impactful to have pictures rather than just links. Pacamah ( talk) 06:10, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
The current infobox has BU Red and White, but the source it links to says it is BU Red and black for its official colors? I feel like red and white are obviously the most prominent colors, but the official site says red and black, so I'm not sure what to do. I guess we can either change it to red and black, or add black to the mix. Pacamah ( talk) 00:12, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
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Some of the colleges and schools (listed in the "Colleges and Schools" category) should really have their own pages. Particularly CGS and MET (2 programs within MET have their own pages, but MET itself does not). These are important parts of BU and have notable alumni. Hbomberman ( talk) 21:25, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm unable to find any sources stating that Boston University has a current affiliation with the Methodist church, I can find many mentions of it historically, but several that state it isn't the case currently. Could I get some clarification? Falcon8765 (TALK) 00:48, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Boston University has been historically affiliated with the United Methodist Church since 1839 when the Newbury Biblical Institute, the first Methodist seminary in the United States was established in Newbury, Vermont.
Although most are liberal arts colleges with enrollments between 800 and 2,000 students, church-related higher education also includes large research universities (Boston University, Notre Dame, for example), medical colleges, professional schools, two-year colleges, theological seminaries, and Bible colleges. Many religiously affiliated colleges regularly are highly ranked in various "best colleges" ratings in the United States.
The University Scholar/Teacher of the Year Award, established by the General Board of Higher Education and Ministry of The United Methodist Church, is conferred at colleges and universities historically affiliated with it.
Hello Anupam, Thank you for writing. Boston University is a United Methodist-related school. See the list for the Northeastern region on the General Board of Higher Education and Ministry website: http://www.gbhem.org/site/c.lsKSL3POLvF/b.5392245/k.9EB1/Schools_by_Region.htm
Hi all.
I have done some more research on the issue and have found several sources that support that the university has no religious affiliation. Additionally, I called the University and spoke with a Mr. Bode Wilson in admissions to confirm what I had found online. The new sources that I have not seen previously in this discussion are as follows, Princeton review [5], U.S. news [6] and, the college board [7]. All of the sources are independent non-biased sources who get their information directly from the University. The contact information for Mr. Bode Wilson, Admissions Coordinator, Boston University Undergraduate Admissions, Phone: (617) 353-2300.
Additionally, I don't see the reliance of having the "historically" related to the methodist church within the first paragraph of the page. If it isn't currently related why does it need to be in the first paragraph? It would be better suited to go under the historical information subsection.-- Robocop729 ( talk) 18:34, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Consensus is not a vote, but even if it were, you've left out two other users (and me) who've questioned the affiliation, and we cannot simply invalidate the concerns and sources provided by bowjangles because of a likely connection with a sock. It looks like this is what we have for references:
This seems fairly clear-cut. BU backs up a historical affiliation, and an affiliation with their school of theology, but makes no statement about current affiliation with their main school. The only sources provided to support a current affiliation are published by the UMC and extremely ambiguous, often making no explicit statement. Then, we have 3 independent sources (including the National Center for Education Statistics) explicitly stating "no religious affiliation". We should move the religious affiliation in the infobox and text to Boston University School of Theology, and make mention of a historical connection in the History section. Anything more than that isn't supported by the sources presented thus far. — Jess· Δ ♥ 18:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Boston University has been historically affiliated with the United Methodist Church since 1839 when the Newbury Biblical Institute, the first Methodist seminary in the United States was established in Newbury, Vermont.
The University Scholar/Teacher of the Year Award, established by the General Board of Higher Education and Ministry of The United Methodist Church, is conferred at colleges and universities historically affiliated with it.
Emory University in Atlanta is ranked 20th. Other United Methodist schools on the top national list are Syracuse (N.Y.) University (tied for 52nd); Boston University (tied for 56th); Southern Methodist University, Dallas (tied for 71st); and American University, Washington (tied for 86th).
Boston University
One Sherborn Street
Boston MA 02215
Phone: (617) 353-2000
BOSTON UNIVERSITY
Dr. Robert A. Brown, President
One Sherborn Street
Boston, MA 02215
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Main Phone: (617) 353-2000
Fax: (617) 353-3278
Primary Email: rabrown@bu.edu
Web:
http://www.sthweb.bu.edu
Denomination: United Methodist
Year established: 1839
Student enrollment: 31,698
Baccalaureate
Post-baccalaureate
Although most are liberal arts colleges with enrollments between 800 and 2,000 students, church-related higher education also includes large research universities (Boston University, Notre Dame, for example), medical colleges, professional schools, two-year colleges, theological seminaries, and Bible colleges. Many religiously affiliated colleges regularly are highly ranked in various "best colleges" ratings in the United States.
Emory University, an academic institution of higher education that is under the auspices of the United Methodist Church (Duke University, Boston University, Northwestern University are among other elite universities belonging to the United Methodist Church
Among Protestant denominations, Methodists take first place in hospitals and colleges. Some of their one hundred colleges and universities have all but severed ties with the denominations, but others remain definitely Methodist: Syracuse, Boston, Emory, Duke, Drew, Denver, and Southern Methodist. The church operates three hundred sixty schools and institutions overseas. Methodists established Goodwill Industries in 1907 to help handicapped persons help themselves by repairing and selling old furniture and clothes. The United Methodist Church runs seventy-two hospitals in the United States.
References
Among Protestant denominations, Methodists take first place in hospitals and colleges. Some of their one hundred colleges and universities have all but severed ties with the denominations, but others remain definitely Methodist: Syracuse, Boston, Emory, Duke, Drew, Denver, and Southern Methodist. The church operates three hundred sixty schools and institutions overseas. Methodists established Goodwill Industries in 1907 to help handicapped persons help themselves by repairing and selling old furniture and clothes. The United Methodist Church runs seventy-two hospitals in the United States.
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Fax: (617) 353-3278
Primary Email: rabrown@bu.edu
Web: http://www.sthweb.bu.edu
Denomination: United Methodist
Year established: 1839
Student enrollment: 31,698
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Other United Methodist schools on the top national list are Syracuse (N.Y.) University (tied for 52nd); Boston University (tied for 56th); Southern Methodist University, Dallas (tied for 71st); and American University, Washington (tied for 86th).
OEmory University, an academic institution of higher education that is under the auspices of the United Methodist Church (Duke University, Boston University, Northwestern University are among other elite universities belonging to the United Methodist Church).
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A recent edit removed this paragraph:
Do we want to put it back in? It is an interesting tidbit, if true. BU is one of my almae matres but I have never heard that version of the song. OTH I have also never attended a BU sporting event (nor any other sporting event if I could help it). Dave ( djkernen)| Talk to me| Please help! 14:42, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
I just got back from visiting the campus and the pics on here do not do the campus any justice. The Eli Weisel Center for Judaic Studies and the Center for International Relations were gorgeous buildings. As was the BU Castle and the Pub underneath it.
Please add some more flattering pics to this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.164.66.120 ( talk) 20:39, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
Parts of this article read as if taken fr/ BU advertising brochures. Plans for future development were pared down, and peacock language has been replaced. Tapered ( talk) 18:34, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Please add a local street map highlighting the campus area and buildings.- 71.174.188.32 ( talk) 00:11, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Is there some special reason that Oscar winner Olympia Dukakis was omitted from the Arts notable Alumni section? There is somebody else who is there that I would be happy to see removed. That name will not be given. Olympia's Oscar was for Best Supporting Actress in Moonstruck. The source for me is IMDB but you probably want to cite the Oscar association pages. She is still active at about age 87 surviving her only spouse who died in early 2018. That alone is a record for people in Hollywood. hhhobbit ( talk) 08:38, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
1968 Olympic 400m hurdles gold medalist David Hemery [1] was a student at BU in the 1960s, and a coach in the 1970s and 1980s.
John Thomas [2] attended BU in the early 1960s and he won a silver medal in the Olympic High Jump. He was an assistant track coach at BU during the 1970s.
I don't have references for these athletics or I would have put them in the prominent alumni myself.
Endo999 ( talk) 02:18, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
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BU has a tradition of using three-letter abbreviations (e.g. FAS, CFA, SAR, MET) for its various schools, and changing them from time to time. To make it easier to decode them, I propose adding two new columns to the table which currently lists only the dates of establishment. One column should show the current official trigram, while the other column should list any previous letter codes used, and possibly what names they once stood for. Reify-tech ( talk) 22:20, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
A campus map is needed, showing where each college or academic program is located. A URL referencing an official BU map would be OK. Tziril ( talk) 05:34, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
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Can the unregistered editor who insists on removing the (well-sourced) historical Methodist affiliation from the infobox please explain their edits? Thanks! ElKevbo ( talk) 04:51, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
Should the CDS be added to the section about the schools and colleges? The official classification of it is an academic unit and not actually a school/college Ksirz ( talk) 02:35, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
The Kilachand Honors College is not a degree-granting college nor is it a major program [1]. Graduates of the Kilachand Honors College receive their degrees from one of the established colleges. Rather, it is a special program wherein students get specialized supervising, a separate residence hall, and complete a keystone project. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swordfish31 ( talk • contribs) 05:54, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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The historic affiliation with the United Methodist Church is already explained in the body paragraphs of the article. It is unnecessary to repeat this in the beginning. Rather, the beginning should provide details about the founding of the university, as can be seen with the introductions of peer institutions on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swordfish31 ( talk • contribs) 05:59, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Given that BU is nonsectarian, this mention of a non-existent religious affiliation in the info box is inappropriate. See Northwestern University, where the historic affiliation to the United Methodist Church was removed from the infobox. Swordfish31 ( talk) 02:21, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Other pages seem to have essentially a giant slew of pictures under the notable alumni section. Would this be something favorable here? I am honestly a bit more in the camp of including this, as it seems to be a bit more impactful to have pictures rather than just links. Pacamah ( talk) 06:10, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
The current infobox has BU Red and White, but the source it links to says it is BU Red and black for its official colors? I feel like red and white are obviously the most prominent colors, but the official site says red and black, so I'm not sure what to do. I guess we can either change it to red and black, or add black to the mix. Pacamah ( talk) 00:12, 21 July 2023 (UTC)