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I was thinking that there ought to be an article on the Football (soccer) maximum wage but perhaps it's part of a larger article on Football (soccer) contracts that also incorporates the Bosman ruling, stuff about transfer windows etc, history of players' wages, etc ... Any thoughts? Cutler 17:49, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
I am pretty sure that Bosman ruling does not refer only to soccer but also at least to basketball, and maybe to other sports in Europe. If anyone knows more on the subject, please help.-- Stellea 07:27, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
The situation pre-Bosman was slightly more complicated than described in this article. In UEFA competitions a team was allowed to field 3 foreign players as well as 2 assimilated foreign players. In pratice this meant that English clubs could field Scottish, Welsh and Irish players as assimilated. ( http://www.liv.ac.uk/footballindustry/bosman.html) I think the best example would be the pre-Bosman 1992 European Cup tie between Leeds United and VFB Stuttgart. At the end of the two matches the aggregate score was 4-4 and Leeds should have exited the competition on the away goals rule. However it was noticed that the Germans had fielded too many foreign players in the second match and so a third match was ordered to be played at a neutral ground on appeal (with Leeds winning 2-1 at the Nou Camp.) More to the point the following players played for Leeds in all the matches of the tie: Gary McAllister (Scottish) Gordon Strachan (Scottish) Gary Speed (Welsh)and Eric Cantona (French) ( http://www.leeds-fans.org.uk/leeds/links/VfBStuttgart.html) Presumably at least one of the British players was counted as a naturalised player, otherwise Leeds would also have breached the quota in both previous matches. IrishPete 14:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Further to the above text, I believe that Gary Speed came through the youth system at Leeds so he would automatically have counted as an assimilated player. 90.240.189.196 18:56, 25 May 2007
I add new information on the Webster ruling and did some minor modification on the layout to reflect Wikipedia styles. Added the implication based on the Times article and recent newscasts but am having a hard time finding internet citations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.21.234.190 ( talk) 09:40, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved, restoring status quo. Jenks24 ( talk) 12:48, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Union Royale Belge des Sociétés de Football Association ASBL v Bosman →
Bosman ruling – This article has long been at
Bosman ruling but was moved a few minutes ago to its present title by
Wikidea. I understand Wikidea's reasoning in moving the article to the full legal title of the decision, but in my opinion per
WP:COMMONNAME it is better to keep "Bosman ruling" as the title. —
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The article isn't really clear as to what the situation was before.
For example before Bosman what exactly did it mean to be 'in contract'? If your contract ended and your current club couldn't agree a fee with a new one, what happened? Did your old club have to carry on paying you, and if so how much, given that your contract was complete? And where did those old rules originate from; who imposed the requirement to agree a post contract fee, and what was the purpose? 78.147.76.57 ( talk) 15:24, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
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I was thinking that there ought to be an article on the Football (soccer) maximum wage but perhaps it's part of a larger article on Football (soccer) contracts that also incorporates the Bosman ruling, stuff about transfer windows etc, history of players' wages, etc ... Any thoughts? Cutler 17:49, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
I am pretty sure that Bosman ruling does not refer only to soccer but also at least to basketball, and maybe to other sports in Europe. If anyone knows more on the subject, please help.-- Stellea 07:27, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
The situation pre-Bosman was slightly more complicated than described in this article. In UEFA competitions a team was allowed to field 3 foreign players as well as 2 assimilated foreign players. In pratice this meant that English clubs could field Scottish, Welsh and Irish players as assimilated. ( http://www.liv.ac.uk/footballindustry/bosman.html) I think the best example would be the pre-Bosman 1992 European Cup tie between Leeds United and VFB Stuttgart. At the end of the two matches the aggregate score was 4-4 and Leeds should have exited the competition on the away goals rule. However it was noticed that the Germans had fielded too many foreign players in the second match and so a third match was ordered to be played at a neutral ground on appeal (with Leeds winning 2-1 at the Nou Camp.) More to the point the following players played for Leeds in all the matches of the tie: Gary McAllister (Scottish) Gordon Strachan (Scottish) Gary Speed (Welsh)and Eric Cantona (French) ( http://www.leeds-fans.org.uk/leeds/links/VfBStuttgart.html) Presumably at least one of the British players was counted as a naturalised player, otherwise Leeds would also have breached the quota in both previous matches. IrishPete 14:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Further to the above text, I believe that Gary Speed came through the youth system at Leeds so he would automatically have counted as an assimilated player. 90.240.189.196 18:56, 25 May 2007
I add new information on the Webster ruling and did some minor modification on the layout to reflect Wikipedia styles. Added the implication based on the Times article and recent newscasts but am having a hard time finding internet citations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.21.234.190 ( talk) 09:40, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved, restoring status quo. Jenks24 ( talk) 12:48, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Union Royale Belge des Sociétés de Football Association ASBL v Bosman →
Bosman ruling – This article has long been at
Bosman ruling but was moved a few minutes ago to its present title by
Wikidea. I understand Wikidea's reasoning in moving the article to the full legal title of the decision, but in my opinion per
WP:COMMONNAME it is better to keep "Bosman ruling" as the title. —
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The article isn't really clear as to what the situation was before.
For example before Bosman what exactly did it mean to be 'in contract'? If your contract ended and your current club couldn't agree a fee with a new one, what happened? Did your old club have to carry on paying you, and if so how much, given that your contract was complete? And where did those old rules originate from; who imposed the requirement to agree a post contract fee, and what was the purpose? 78.147.76.57 ( talk) 15:24, 5 July 2023 (UTC)