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If any of you are wondering why people are discussing ontological paradoxes in My Little Pony -- well, you clearly haven't been watching My Little Pony. 75.210.130.97 ( talk) 01:33, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Back to the Future is riddled with these. One notable example: the song "Johnny Be Good". Marty learned it from the Van Halen cover, who adapted it from the Chuck Berry original, which (according to the film's fiction) he heard over the phone when his brother Marvin heard it being played by Marty at the dance. Thus nobody can be credited as the original author of the song. Lurlock ( talk) 17:59, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
I object to the use of "Bootstrap paradox" in the title of this article. "Ontological paradox" is the formal or scientific name and since such a name exists it should be used for the article title rather than a colloquial name. Reccommend the title "Bootstrap paradox in fiction" be renamed to "Ontological paradox in fiction". ObiWanBillKenobi ( talk) 03:49, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
I proposed this article be deleted well over a year ago, from memory it was considered a weak keep with recommendations that the article be wikified. The article still attracts unsourced that demonstrate no great merit or notability. I am minded to renominate the article as it has not a single reference and doesn't appear to be notable. Jasonfward ( talk) 22:37, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
A very new book "Time Travel: The Popular Philosophy of Narrative" http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Time-Travel-David-Wittenberg/9780823249961?redirected=true&selectCurrency=GBP looks like it may be a good source. Jasonfward ( talk) 17:49, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
renovationsf.org/downloads/academic-proceedings.pdf#page=28
sydney.edu.au/arts/publications/philament/issue18_pdfs/Philament_18_Time_Editorial.pdf referes to Futurama
Jasonfward ( talk) 21:52, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Anyone with a JSTOR subscription, this looks good http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4240359?uid=3738032&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101625685741 as it appears (from what I've been able to ascertain) to name who invented the "bootstrap paradox" and in what work of fiction. Jasonfward ( talk) 21:58, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
I think this is the same article as on JSTOR, still needs a sub to see it in entirety http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-8705.1963.tb01203.x/abstract Jasonfward ( talk) 22:01, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Again appears to name the first use of "bootrap paradox" in fiction, but book is in German and I cannot read German. - http://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=yHGt8Y-Fr5QC&oi=fnd&pg=PT1&dq=bootstrap+paradox+fiction&ots=bILnPZEkA0&sig=zIO4H4pcDwlsWXoOvX-9CGbhQQE Jasonfward ( talk) 22:06, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
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If any of you are wondering why people are discussing ontological paradoxes in My Little Pony -- well, you clearly haven't been watching My Little Pony. 75.210.130.97 ( talk) 01:33, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Back to the Future is riddled with these. One notable example: the song "Johnny Be Good". Marty learned it from the Van Halen cover, who adapted it from the Chuck Berry original, which (according to the film's fiction) he heard over the phone when his brother Marvin heard it being played by Marty at the dance. Thus nobody can be credited as the original author of the song. Lurlock ( talk) 17:59, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
I object to the use of "Bootstrap paradox" in the title of this article. "Ontological paradox" is the formal or scientific name and since such a name exists it should be used for the article title rather than a colloquial name. Reccommend the title "Bootstrap paradox in fiction" be renamed to "Ontological paradox in fiction". ObiWanBillKenobi ( talk) 03:49, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
I proposed this article be deleted well over a year ago, from memory it was considered a weak keep with recommendations that the article be wikified. The article still attracts unsourced that demonstrate no great merit or notability. I am minded to renominate the article as it has not a single reference and doesn't appear to be notable. Jasonfward ( talk) 22:37, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
A very new book "Time Travel: The Popular Philosophy of Narrative" http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Time-Travel-David-Wittenberg/9780823249961?redirected=true&selectCurrency=GBP looks like it may be a good source. Jasonfward ( talk) 17:49, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
renovationsf.org/downloads/academic-proceedings.pdf#page=28
sydney.edu.au/arts/publications/philament/issue18_pdfs/Philament_18_Time_Editorial.pdf referes to Futurama
Jasonfward ( talk) 21:52, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Anyone with a JSTOR subscription, this looks good http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4240359?uid=3738032&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101625685741 as it appears (from what I've been able to ascertain) to name who invented the "bootstrap paradox" and in what work of fiction. Jasonfward ( talk) 21:58, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
I think this is the same article as on JSTOR, still needs a sub to see it in entirety http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-8705.1963.tb01203.x/abstract Jasonfward ( talk) 22:01, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Again appears to name the first use of "bootrap paradox" in fiction, but book is in German and I cannot read German. - http://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=yHGt8Y-Fr5QC&oi=fnd&pg=PT1&dq=bootstrap+paradox+fiction&ots=bILnPZEkA0&sig=zIO4H4pcDwlsWXoOvX-9CGbhQQE Jasonfward ( talk) 22:06, 3 February 2013 (UTC)