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It seems the Spanish article has some stuff this article doesn't. [1] 205.174.22.28 02:09, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Unless my memory is horribly failing me, the song during the credits of Moulin Rouge, "Bolero", is not in 3 and so, this article would lead me to believe, not actually a Bolero. It should thus probably either be removed or have a note added to clear up any confusion, since it's listed under "Boleros in popular culture", implying that it is a bolero. -- inferno0069 22:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, first of all, I think the article now differentiates clearly between the Spanish and Cuban+L/A boleros. I think it's necessary to put all this in one place, where the distinction can be spelt out.
Not so easy to handle are the various art music versions called 'bolero'. What Ravel called a 'bolero' is obviously not one; something like a habanera tinged with paso doble, perhaps. Macdonald-ross ( talk) 14:26, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Reference #4 does not seem to be relevant to the claim in the text. It is important that links in references enable readers to verify the text, else they do not act as guarantees for the accuracy of the article. Macdonald-ross ( talk) 16:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
It turns out the forms come from cuba and Spain. Where was Latin America again?-- 91.32.29.115 ( talk) 06:58, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
There's a Mexican style of bolero. Los Panchos and Luis Miguel are examples of this, unless Mexican bolero is the same of Cuban style. Magiciandude ( talk) 08:37, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I read that bolero is often confused with tango by those unfamiliar with it (like me!). Might make for an interesting expansion of the article to go into the similarities and differences. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.8.202.217 ( talk) 19:39, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
I found an article/webpage that cites Cuban ethnomusicologist Argeliers Leon attributing a Mexican influence on the guitar techniques utilized in the Cuban bolero; in other words, the bolero also has Mexican roots:
http://www.magicmomentsdance.com/etiquettedancehistory/bolero.html
69.235.143.248 ( talk) 20:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)James Lopez
Unfortunately, I do not have access to a journal that makes this assertion; however, here is where the article can be found:
http://fmls.oxfordjournals.org/content/40/4/389.abstract
If the journal can be accessed, I don't see what's problematic in saying that the Cuban bolero also has some Mexican roots. 69.235.143.248 ( talk) 05:39, 28 August 2010 (UTC)James Lopez
Another source on this topic:
108.223.14.211 ( talk) 19:33, 18 December 2012 (UTC)James Lopez
I can't think of a single number this might apply to. Unless someone can back this up, I intend to delete this. Kostaki mou ( talk) 04:34, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
I don't know enough about classical music to be 100% sure, but I *believe* this piece is actually a bolero. Should it be added to the list under "In Art Music"?
For reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfysyex_DAk
Under "Spain" the bolero is categorically stated to be 3/4, but under Cuba it appears that 2/4 is the case, and "elsewhere" 4/4. Perhaps the initial "3/4" statement should be softened or particularized (e.g. "the bolero was originally...")? -- Haruo ( talk) 04:58, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
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It seems the Spanish article has some stuff this article doesn't. [1] 205.174.22.28 02:09, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Unless my memory is horribly failing me, the song during the credits of Moulin Rouge, "Bolero", is not in 3 and so, this article would lead me to believe, not actually a Bolero. It should thus probably either be removed or have a note added to clear up any confusion, since it's listed under "Boleros in popular culture", implying that it is a bolero. -- inferno0069 22:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, first of all, I think the article now differentiates clearly between the Spanish and Cuban+L/A boleros. I think it's necessary to put all this in one place, where the distinction can be spelt out.
Not so easy to handle are the various art music versions called 'bolero'. What Ravel called a 'bolero' is obviously not one; something like a habanera tinged with paso doble, perhaps. Macdonald-ross ( talk) 14:26, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Reference #4 does not seem to be relevant to the claim in the text. It is important that links in references enable readers to verify the text, else they do not act as guarantees for the accuracy of the article. Macdonald-ross ( talk) 16:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
It turns out the forms come from cuba and Spain. Where was Latin America again?-- 91.32.29.115 ( talk) 06:58, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
There's a Mexican style of bolero. Los Panchos and Luis Miguel are examples of this, unless Mexican bolero is the same of Cuban style. Magiciandude ( talk) 08:37, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I read that bolero is often confused with tango by those unfamiliar with it (like me!). Might make for an interesting expansion of the article to go into the similarities and differences. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.8.202.217 ( talk) 19:39, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
I found an article/webpage that cites Cuban ethnomusicologist Argeliers Leon attributing a Mexican influence on the guitar techniques utilized in the Cuban bolero; in other words, the bolero also has Mexican roots:
http://www.magicmomentsdance.com/etiquettedancehistory/bolero.html
69.235.143.248 ( talk) 20:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)James Lopez
Unfortunately, I do not have access to a journal that makes this assertion; however, here is where the article can be found:
http://fmls.oxfordjournals.org/content/40/4/389.abstract
If the journal can be accessed, I don't see what's problematic in saying that the Cuban bolero also has some Mexican roots. 69.235.143.248 ( talk) 05:39, 28 August 2010 (UTC)James Lopez
Another source on this topic:
108.223.14.211 ( talk) 19:33, 18 December 2012 (UTC)James Lopez
I can't think of a single number this might apply to. Unless someone can back this up, I intend to delete this. Kostaki mou ( talk) 04:34, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
I don't know enough about classical music to be 100% sure, but I *believe* this piece is actually a bolero. Should it be added to the list under "In Art Music"?
For reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfysyex_DAk
Under "Spain" the bolero is categorically stated to be 3/4, but under Cuba it appears that 2/4 is the case, and "elsewhere" 4/4. Perhaps the initial "3/4" statement should be softened or particularized (e.g. "the bolero was originally...")? -- Haruo ( talk) 04:58, 19 November 2015 (UTC)