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I think that there should be some more info. on how it was first started and who thought of painting on human bodys. And i think that there should be some other things like more history ect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.108.217.128 ( talk) 20:50, 20 March 2005 (UTC)
Because of the (painted) nudity, for this article I would suggest that the image of Danni Ashe should be linked rather than embedded in accord with this tentative Wikipedia guideline: "it may be preferable not to embed possibly offensive images in articles, but rather use a [[media:image name]] link with an appropriate warning. On the other hand, if the page title already tells the reader what to expect (e.g. Erotic art in Pompeii), such a warning may be unnecessary." Objections? -- Flex 21:33, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
Why are there so many Playboy-type pictures on this page. The cover of these magazines are not so ground-breaking. Can we please have something less commercial? Dandelion1 01:05, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
The current article states that completely covering someone in bodypaint will not cause them to asphyxiate due to obstruction of the pores. It is possible that this is true for modern noncomedogenic paints, but I am relatively certain that circus performers and other paint-clad artists (the Tin man in The Wizard of Oz (film) for example) typically leave a half-dollar sized area unpainted to prevent this. Can anyone (i.e. someone with experience in bodypainting) confirm this one way or another? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.195.118.2 ( talk) 21:24, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
This is not your personal advertisement space. Attempting to funnel visitors to this article into visiting an article about your company that was created as an obvious advertisement violates Wikipedia's NPOV policy. -- Khisanth 22:56, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
User:Dvnc-arts keeps putting links to his own site, and a picture that seems to be incompatible with the Wikipedia image submission policy (it has copyright information on the image itself) into the article. What should be done about this? JIP | Talk 07:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I was wondering why there are no further body painting resources (i.e brands of body paints, different kinds of body paint.. etc)
218.111.29.174 13:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I discovered that Wikipedia had an article about whole-body painting, which is exactly similar to the body painting described here, except that the resulting artwork is on an external canvas and not directly on the model's body. This should perhaps be merged into this article. However, I think the terms are too similar and do not accurately reflect the distinction, as both kinds of painting are done on whole bodies, the only difference is what is presented as the final artwork. JIP | Talk 07:15, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
I recently broke my photographing frequency record at a body painting show in Sello: 293 pictures in 12 hours' time, and that's only the pictures I kept. There were three female models, two in their underwear, the other topless. Should I upload pictures, assuming I get the models' permission? JIP | Talk 22:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I would love to alphabetise the "Famous people with facepaint" subsection, but unfortunately it mixes real names, stage names, and names of teams or bands. Is there any way to sort this out? JIP | Talk 20:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, if the books are so popular, how come no ones getting the word that they are making a new movie? I's kinda silly. If no one hears about the movie, no one will watch it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.219.232.83 ( talk) 11:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I'd rather like to get a good lead picture which doesn't contain nudity. While wiki is not censored, I'd say that generally there is no need to have nudity right at the top of the page. - mattbuck ( Talk) 23:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I HATE this sentence, but I have no idea how to change it because I don't understand what it means. Is it an "art" thing or a "non-native English speaker" thing?
"Body art today evolves to the works more directed towards personal mythologies, as Jana Sterbak, Rebecca Horn, Youri Messen-Jaschin or Javier Perez."
Can someone help? 208.96.196.130 ( talk) 15:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Further: "More subdued form of face paints for everyday occasions evolve into the cosmetics we know today."
Is this true? I know that eye shadow was originally used in Egypt with the belief that it protected from eye disease. The coloration of lips has been associated with making them resemble vaginal lips (consider the gibbons whose bottoms become inflamed during periods of fertility). Does anyone have a citation for the supposition that the daily attempt to enhance appearance is descended from ritual body painting? TychaBrahe ( talk) 15:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Since 1979, I have been working with metalic makeup to produce the effect of having a silver, copper, or gold human statue come alive in front of my camera. I've been published world wide and am the most published metalic MUA/photographer in the world.
I find it troubling that none of the work accomplished by pioneers such as Jon Stevens and myself -- unless I missed that -- are even mentioned here. We were the ones who devoted more time to the artistic efforts. Indeed, we created human statues and sculptures.
I devoted much of my time and will continue to devote time to my work until I die. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redwar2006 ( talk • contribs) 06:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Why do so many female body painting models (not all of them though) go topless while being painted? The idea is to present the most of one's body to be painted, not necessarily all of it. They're already wearing panties while painted, surely a thin top covering just enough of the breasts to be decent wouldn't hurt the effect that much? JIP | Talk 00:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
A talk show host asked what gender invented Face Painting and make up.I said it was a combined effort of both,and from numerous cultures.The introduction of face painting was used by meso American cultures,in ceremony and war,and that was by the male gender.The European female adopted that concept and furthered it's use,as we know today.Here is another cosmetic example,wigs were worn by English nobility as a token of authority,yet females adopted it later for style conversions. Now on the other hand jewelry was thought up by viking women as well as men,because it was easier to carry their wealth where ever they go,because of their transient lifestyle. Hair clips were worn by Samaria warriors to keep their hair out of their face,women today use the same innovations.Tattoo's were invented by women in Norwegian cultures to identify themselves, The tattoo would name their husband,their favorite flower,etc, today men use that concept as well.So my answer to the talk show host,the answer is not A or B,it is a combined effort of both, and many cultures over long time spans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.249.184.30 ( talk) 14:31, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Someone added this image to this article, and it was quickly reverted. The description of the file doesn't make it clear whether this is a tattoo or body painting, in other words, does the ink go under or over the skin. JIP | Talk 16:56, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I am going to remove this image again. It is a lousy image to use as an illustration of body painting. The two women are too far away to be seen in the size allocated. In fact, what it looks like is two women wearing bikini bottoms, a red cape, boots, cat ears, and carrying cardboard signs in front of them. I have no problem with using images from a PETA protest, I remember seeing some excellent ones of women in cages or even the controversial billboard campaign that they ran a few years ago that would be great examples. But the image that is currently included doesn't work as an example of body painting.--- Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 20:14, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
This recent edit claims that the mention of medieval Dalecarlian body painting was vandalism. Up to this time, I had merely thought it was a historical curiosity. Can anyone either verify or deny it was vandalism? JIP | Talk 20:38, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Looks like people have started disrespecting the structure of the article. About halfway down the last paragraph of facepainting, glitter tattoos pop up for no rhyme or reason. Vpundir 02:17, 1 September 2011 (BST)
In last paragraph of facepainting, in the discussion around glitter tattoos, it is mentioned that these are made with the "original pink glue"...this is an overt plug for a specific brand. What the article SHOULD say instead of "Original Pink Glue" is cosmetic-grade glue. Vpundir 02:17, 1 September 2011 (BST)
There are now more photos in this article than stands to reason. On most high-resolution screens, the articles is visually unappealing and even disturbing due to the ragging caused by numerous pictures that don't fit into their respective sections. Vpundir 02:17, 1 September 2011 (BST)
Has anyone noticed that the top photo is of a man who is naked with his wang visible, and kids are watching it? What the hell, first of all why would children be allowed to view this, and why is it allowed on Wikipedia? Are we sure we need of a photo of such content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.4.51 ( talk) 13:33, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
1) Moved the Demi Moore Vanity Fair cover to the lead position as this is perhaps the most famous example of body paint ever. Due to questions of non-free images in the lead, this image was moved back to the section that dealt with Demi's Birthday Suit. So I moved the image of the Saints Fan to the lead.
2) Removed the recently added image as it is not that great of a quality image and the art is pretty basic.
3) Removed image of tiger motif'd lady. The girl with a butterfly on her chest is a better image IMO and has been on the page much longer, didn't feel like we needed both.
4) Removed image from Carnival. Image is small and person in image is hard to see, hard to tell what the body paint really is.
5) Removed image as it is a dark image and hard to see. Better images elsewhere.
6) Removed image as it is just scary ;-) While I would love to have images of body painting for "spritual purposes" I don't think this is the right image. I think the ideal image for this purpose would be one of an indigenous population that is wearing body paint.
7) Moved the boy with the tiger face down to the section dealing with popular face painting examples.
8) Moved picture of girls down to give space.
9) Removed image from WBF Seeboden. Image is too small with the two body painted figures occupying so little of the image. Hard to see the body paint. Better images already on the page.
10) added image of Sting to the Wrestling section. Sting is probably the most famous wrestler with face paint... but there are others who would be equally good.
I feel like we need to remove one or two of the following sports related images:
But I'm not sure. I like the Saints image because it is so extravagent and out there. I like the FIFA image because it shows that face painting isn't just an American thing. I like the Hoyas image because it is so simplistic. But I don't think we need 3 images related to sports. What are your thoughts on these three images?
I think we need at least 2 more images: 1) Of hand art. 2) Of a traditional usage for spriitual/historic purposes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balloonman ( talk • contribs) 23:24, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I see your point about the camouflage body painting image, so I made a cropped version of it, which shows only the body painted women. However, as the women are standing back-to-back with their arms outstretched, they form more-or-less a square shape, which forces the image to include a lot of the background also, as the human body is quite oblong-shaped. I hope this is not a problem, but if it is, I could make a further cropped version by cutting part of the women's legs off the picture, seeing as the legs aren't painted. But I'd much rather not do it though, as I prefer full-body shots when I photograph people. JIP | Talk 23:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a section regarding painting within the world of music? Some examples would be Blue Man Group, glam metal bands like Kiss and Black Veil Brides, and some black metal and extreme metal bands. Nothing huge, but a mention would be adequate, would it not?
Thatemooverthere (Talk) 01:17, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Is there some kind of edit war going on about which picture is better for the top of the article? Wouldn't it be possible to simply have both? JIP | Talk 06:00, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Since there has been no development, I've switched to the Starry Night one. Regardless of which image is used, it would be a very good idea to credit the body paint artist, since that's the topic of the article, not photography. Grayfell ( talk) 01:06, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
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I think that there should be some more info. on how it was first started and who thought of painting on human bodys. And i think that there should be some other things like more history ect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.108.217.128 ( talk) 20:50, 20 March 2005 (UTC)
Because of the (painted) nudity, for this article I would suggest that the image of Danni Ashe should be linked rather than embedded in accord with this tentative Wikipedia guideline: "it may be preferable not to embed possibly offensive images in articles, but rather use a [[media:image name]] link with an appropriate warning. On the other hand, if the page title already tells the reader what to expect (e.g. Erotic art in Pompeii), such a warning may be unnecessary." Objections? -- Flex 21:33, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
Why are there so many Playboy-type pictures on this page. The cover of these magazines are not so ground-breaking. Can we please have something less commercial? Dandelion1 01:05, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
The current article states that completely covering someone in bodypaint will not cause them to asphyxiate due to obstruction of the pores. It is possible that this is true for modern noncomedogenic paints, but I am relatively certain that circus performers and other paint-clad artists (the Tin man in The Wizard of Oz (film) for example) typically leave a half-dollar sized area unpainted to prevent this. Can anyone (i.e. someone with experience in bodypainting) confirm this one way or another? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.195.118.2 ( talk) 21:24, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
This is not your personal advertisement space. Attempting to funnel visitors to this article into visiting an article about your company that was created as an obvious advertisement violates Wikipedia's NPOV policy. -- Khisanth 22:56, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
User:Dvnc-arts keeps putting links to his own site, and a picture that seems to be incompatible with the Wikipedia image submission policy (it has copyright information on the image itself) into the article. What should be done about this? JIP | Talk 07:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I was wondering why there are no further body painting resources (i.e brands of body paints, different kinds of body paint.. etc)
218.111.29.174 13:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I discovered that Wikipedia had an article about whole-body painting, which is exactly similar to the body painting described here, except that the resulting artwork is on an external canvas and not directly on the model's body. This should perhaps be merged into this article. However, I think the terms are too similar and do not accurately reflect the distinction, as both kinds of painting are done on whole bodies, the only difference is what is presented as the final artwork. JIP | Talk 07:15, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
I recently broke my photographing frequency record at a body painting show in Sello: 293 pictures in 12 hours' time, and that's only the pictures I kept. There were three female models, two in their underwear, the other topless. Should I upload pictures, assuming I get the models' permission? JIP | Talk 22:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I would love to alphabetise the "Famous people with facepaint" subsection, but unfortunately it mixes real names, stage names, and names of teams or bands. Is there any way to sort this out? JIP | Talk 20:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, if the books are so popular, how come no ones getting the word that they are making a new movie? I's kinda silly. If no one hears about the movie, no one will watch it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.219.232.83 ( talk) 11:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I'd rather like to get a good lead picture which doesn't contain nudity. While wiki is not censored, I'd say that generally there is no need to have nudity right at the top of the page. - mattbuck ( Talk) 23:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I HATE this sentence, but I have no idea how to change it because I don't understand what it means. Is it an "art" thing or a "non-native English speaker" thing?
"Body art today evolves to the works more directed towards personal mythologies, as Jana Sterbak, Rebecca Horn, Youri Messen-Jaschin or Javier Perez."
Can someone help? 208.96.196.130 ( talk) 15:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Further: "More subdued form of face paints for everyday occasions evolve into the cosmetics we know today."
Is this true? I know that eye shadow was originally used in Egypt with the belief that it protected from eye disease. The coloration of lips has been associated with making them resemble vaginal lips (consider the gibbons whose bottoms become inflamed during periods of fertility). Does anyone have a citation for the supposition that the daily attempt to enhance appearance is descended from ritual body painting? TychaBrahe ( talk) 15:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Since 1979, I have been working with metalic makeup to produce the effect of having a silver, copper, or gold human statue come alive in front of my camera. I've been published world wide and am the most published metalic MUA/photographer in the world.
I find it troubling that none of the work accomplished by pioneers such as Jon Stevens and myself -- unless I missed that -- are even mentioned here. We were the ones who devoted more time to the artistic efforts. Indeed, we created human statues and sculptures.
I devoted much of my time and will continue to devote time to my work until I die. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redwar2006 ( talk • contribs) 06:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Why do so many female body painting models (not all of them though) go topless while being painted? The idea is to present the most of one's body to be painted, not necessarily all of it. They're already wearing panties while painted, surely a thin top covering just enough of the breasts to be decent wouldn't hurt the effect that much? JIP | Talk 00:55, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
A talk show host asked what gender invented Face Painting and make up.I said it was a combined effort of both,and from numerous cultures.The introduction of face painting was used by meso American cultures,in ceremony and war,and that was by the male gender.The European female adopted that concept and furthered it's use,as we know today.Here is another cosmetic example,wigs were worn by English nobility as a token of authority,yet females adopted it later for style conversions. Now on the other hand jewelry was thought up by viking women as well as men,because it was easier to carry their wealth where ever they go,because of their transient lifestyle. Hair clips were worn by Samaria warriors to keep their hair out of their face,women today use the same innovations.Tattoo's were invented by women in Norwegian cultures to identify themselves, The tattoo would name their husband,their favorite flower,etc, today men use that concept as well.So my answer to the talk show host,the answer is not A or B,it is a combined effort of both, and many cultures over long time spans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.249.184.30 ( talk) 14:31, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Someone added this image to this article, and it was quickly reverted. The description of the file doesn't make it clear whether this is a tattoo or body painting, in other words, does the ink go under or over the skin. JIP | Talk 16:56, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I am going to remove this image again. It is a lousy image to use as an illustration of body painting. The two women are too far away to be seen in the size allocated. In fact, what it looks like is two women wearing bikini bottoms, a red cape, boots, cat ears, and carrying cardboard signs in front of them. I have no problem with using images from a PETA protest, I remember seeing some excellent ones of women in cages or even the controversial billboard campaign that they ran a few years ago that would be great examples. But the image that is currently included doesn't work as an example of body painting.--- Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 20:14, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
This recent edit claims that the mention of medieval Dalecarlian body painting was vandalism. Up to this time, I had merely thought it was a historical curiosity. Can anyone either verify or deny it was vandalism? JIP | Talk 20:38, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Looks like people have started disrespecting the structure of the article. About halfway down the last paragraph of facepainting, glitter tattoos pop up for no rhyme or reason. Vpundir 02:17, 1 September 2011 (BST)
In last paragraph of facepainting, in the discussion around glitter tattoos, it is mentioned that these are made with the "original pink glue"...this is an overt plug for a specific brand. What the article SHOULD say instead of "Original Pink Glue" is cosmetic-grade glue. Vpundir 02:17, 1 September 2011 (BST)
There are now more photos in this article than stands to reason. On most high-resolution screens, the articles is visually unappealing and even disturbing due to the ragging caused by numerous pictures that don't fit into their respective sections. Vpundir 02:17, 1 September 2011 (BST)
Has anyone noticed that the top photo is of a man who is naked with his wang visible, and kids are watching it? What the hell, first of all why would children be allowed to view this, and why is it allowed on Wikipedia? Are we sure we need of a photo of such content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.4.51 ( talk) 13:33, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
1) Moved the Demi Moore Vanity Fair cover to the lead position as this is perhaps the most famous example of body paint ever. Due to questions of non-free images in the lead, this image was moved back to the section that dealt with Demi's Birthday Suit. So I moved the image of the Saints Fan to the lead.
2) Removed the recently added image as it is not that great of a quality image and the art is pretty basic.
3) Removed image of tiger motif'd lady. The girl with a butterfly on her chest is a better image IMO and has been on the page much longer, didn't feel like we needed both.
4) Removed image from Carnival. Image is small and person in image is hard to see, hard to tell what the body paint really is.
5) Removed image as it is a dark image and hard to see. Better images elsewhere.
6) Removed image as it is just scary ;-) While I would love to have images of body painting for "spritual purposes" I don't think this is the right image. I think the ideal image for this purpose would be one of an indigenous population that is wearing body paint.
7) Moved the boy with the tiger face down to the section dealing with popular face painting examples.
8) Moved picture of girls down to give space.
9) Removed image from WBF Seeboden. Image is too small with the two body painted figures occupying so little of the image. Hard to see the body paint. Better images already on the page.
10) added image of Sting to the Wrestling section. Sting is probably the most famous wrestler with face paint... but there are others who would be equally good.
I feel like we need to remove one or two of the following sports related images:
But I'm not sure. I like the Saints image because it is so extravagent and out there. I like the FIFA image because it shows that face painting isn't just an American thing. I like the Hoyas image because it is so simplistic. But I don't think we need 3 images related to sports. What are your thoughts on these three images?
I think we need at least 2 more images: 1) Of hand art. 2) Of a traditional usage for spriitual/historic purposes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balloonman ( talk • contribs) 23:24, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I see your point about the camouflage body painting image, so I made a cropped version of it, which shows only the body painted women. However, as the women are standing back-to-back with their arms outstretched, they form more-or-less a square shape, which forces the image to include a lot of the background also, as the human body is quite oblong-shaped. I hope this is not a problem, but if it is, I could make a further cropped version by cutting part of the women's legs off the picture, seeing as the legs aren't painted. But I'd much rather not do it though, as I prefer full-body shots when I photograph people. JIP | Talk 23:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a section regarding painting within the world of music? Some examples would be Blue Man Group, glam metal bands like Kiss and Black Veil Brides, and some black metal and extreme metal bands. Nothing huge, but a mention would be adequate, would it not?
Thatemooverthere (Talk) 01:17, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Is there some kind of edit war going on about which picture is better for the top of the article? Wouldn't it be possible to simply have both? JIP | Talk 06:00, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Since there has been no development, I've switched to the Starry Night one. Regardless of which image is used, it would be a very good idea to credit the body paint artist, since that's the topic of the article, not photography. Grayfell ( talk) 01:06, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
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