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If you need someone to back you up, I'm there for you Reyk. I made some edits to the article to bring it into NPOV. One line I removed "Unhappiness over Iraq war and the President's unpopularity may also hurt Nussle." because this won't matter in the primary, only the general (if at all). The GOP primary voters don't have a problem with their president. - Jaysus Chris 03:59, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Most of this article needs to be properly sourced. Calling him a businessman is also probably not a good idea; it would be much better to say what business ventures he was involved in and in what manner he was involved. Using his full name in the intro would also be a good idea.
"Vander Plaats is considered to be very conservative." This is personal opinion and very vague. How about mentioning what subjects he takes a conservative stance on, and a reference to a news article that describes him and his positions? His own website is not a good source.
Also, an article summarizing the results of the 2002 election should be cited.
"He is again considered the underdog in 2006." By whom? Cite a source.
"As a business leader, Vander Plaats does not have any governmental experience." Very broad statement, probably it would be better to say that he has not previously held public office.
"His campaign spins this as a positive..."
Spin is a very negative term, reflecting bias.
"...will give the Democrats a lot of ammunition..." extremely vague. Be specific: what subjects will he face criticism on?
The sources you cite are terrible. See
Wikipedia:Reliable sources
The last paragraph is not supported by citations and is very badly written, as well as showing clear bias.
I'm going to see if I can find some reliable news articles on this subject, and then I'll rewrite this. I have reservations as to whether this man is notable enough to be on Wikipedia, but the quality of this article concerns me far more than its subject.
Tenebrous
06:29, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
I added the POV tag to this article, I'll remove it when I finish editing the article, unless someone else has POV issues with my version. If that happens, the POV tag will remain until a consensus is reached. Tenebrous 12:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Jim Nussle's trolls are at work, vandalizing articles to suit their partisan ends. Nussle's adultery with Karen caused his divorce, and the whole thing was very public knowledge at the time, quite negatively reported in the Iowa press. This is going to be an issue, whatever his flacks think, and the details will be part of the wikipedia articles. -- FourthAve 06:33, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
While I'm not convinced this article should be deleted entirely, it needs to be drastically pared down. Arbor832466 ( talk) 21:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
I don't know enough to do it myself, but Vander Plaats has been promulgating a document called "The Marriage Vows", and having success in getting Republican presidential candidates to sign:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/08/michele-bachmann-rick-san_n_893523.html
Adding a section on this, or perhaps even a whole article, would be important. (I've already added this to the "Requested Articles" page.] -- Dan Griscom ( talk) 11:52, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
For many years, Vander Plaats' group The Iowa Family Policy Center received the majority of it's funding from the federal "Faith Based Initiative", despite Vander Plaats' repeated calls for smaller government.
http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110513/APA/1105130562
ProofMoth36 ( talk) 16:54, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Unregistered user 205.221.255.30 has committed numerous acts of vandalism against this article. Can an admin check into putting a block on this IP address? Jsniessen ( talk) 14:27, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
I went through history edit by edit on this user (205.221.255.30), and caught several more instances not yet removed. I believe all of it has now been reverted. Jsniessen ( talk) 15:41, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
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Attention: NO LIBEL
If you need someone to back you up, I'm there for you Reyk. I made some edits to the article to bring it into NPOV. One line I removed "Unhappiness over Iraq war and the President's unpopularity may also hurt Nussle." because this won't matter in the primary, only the general (if at all). The GOP primary voters don't have a problem with their president. - Jaysus Chris 03:59, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Most of this article needs to be properly sourced. Calling him a businessman is also probably not a good idea; it would be much better to say what business ventures he was involved in and in what manner he was involved. Using his full name in the intro would also be a good idea.
"Vander Plaats is considered to be very conservative." This is personal opinion and very vague. How about mentioning what subjects he takes a conservative stance on, and a reference to a news article that describes him and his positions? His own website is not a good source.
Also, an article summarizing the results of the 2002 election should be cited.
"He is again considered the underdog in 2006." By whom? Cite a source.
"As a business leader, Vander Plaats does not have any governmental experience." Very broad statement, probably it would be better to say that he has not previously held public office.
"His campaign spins this as a positive..."
Spin is a very negative term, reflecting bias.
"...will give the Democrats a lot of ammunition..." extremely vague. Be specific: what subjects will he face criticism on?
The sources you cite are terrible. See
Wikipedia:Reliable sources
The last paragraph is not supported by citations and is very badly written, as well as showing clear bias.
I'm going to see if I can find some reliable news articles on this subject, and then I'll rewrite this. I have reservations as to whether this man is notable enough to be on Wikipedia, but the quality of this article concerns me far more than its subject.
Tenebrous
06:29, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
I added the POV tag to this article, I'll remove it when I finish editing the article, unless someone else has POV issues with my version. If that happens, the POV tag will remain until a consensus is reached. Tenebrous 12:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Jim Nussle's trolls are at work, vandalizing articles to suit their partisan ends. Nussle's adultery with Karen caused his divorce, and the whole thing was very public knowledge at the time, quite negatively reported in the Iowa press. This is going to be an issue, whatever his flacks think, and the details will be part of the wikipedia articles. -- FourthAve 06:33, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
While I'm not convinced this article should be deleted entirely, it needs to be drastically pared down. Arbor832466 ( talk) 21:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
I don't know enough to do it myself, but Vander Plaats has been promulgating a document called "The Marriage Vows", and having success in getting Republican presidential candidates to sign:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/08/michele-bachmann-rick-san_n_893523.html
Adding a section on this, or perhaps even a whole article, would be important. (I've already added this to the "Requested Articles" page.] -- Dan Griscom ( talk) 11:52, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
For many years, Vander Plaats' group The Iowa Family Policy Center received the majority of it's funding from the federal "Faith Based Initiative", despite Vander Plaats' repeated calls for smaller government.
http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110513/APA/1105130562
ProofMoth36 ( talk) 16:54, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Unregistered user 205.221.255.30 has committed numerous acts of vandalism against this article. Can an admin check into putting a block on this IP address? Jsniessen ( talk) 14:27, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
I went through history edit by edit on this user (205.221.255.30), and caught several more instances not yet removed. I believe all of it has now been reverted. Jsniessen ( talk) 15:41, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
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