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On 19 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Robert Kahn. The result of the discussion was Moved to Robert Kahn (computer scientist). |
žI think that he is rihgt,Everyone in the computer research field calls him "Bob Kahn". Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names) says we're supposed to use "the most common name of a person or thing". So I have moved the article to that name. Noel 03:23, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Removed the following pieces of text from the article because they were so wrong:
Anyone who was working on the project in the late 70's will remember the pain we had to go through to get TCP/IP software into the operating system on most machines. "[no] internal changes"? Pfui.
NCP is so totally different from TCP that the connection is tenuous at best. (Also, NCP is usually given as "Network Control Protocol" - although the correct expansion of NCP is actually "Network Control Program" - but the latter is something even I didn't realize until I actually read the old manuals, so I'll give a pass on that).
The whole question of who should be given credit for what in the development of TCP/IP is a lot more complicated that this article makes it sound. Many of the fundamental idea (moving the ack process into the hosts) came from work down by Louis Pouzin, and the people at Xerox PARC had done important precursor work as well. What's in the article is possibly still a bit too thickly laid on, but it's reasonably close to being correct now. Noel 04:10, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
The photograph needs a caption as to when it it was taken. Better yet, it should be replaced with something current. That photo must be 30 years old. -- angrykeyboarder (a/k/a:Scott) 17:18, 3 June 2007 (UTC) he was gay — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.91.202.242 ( talk) 19:28, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Moved to Robert Kahn (computer scientist). Per consensus. – robertsky ( talk) 02:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Bob Kahn → Robert Kahn – (1) His Turing Award page uses 'Robert' ( https://amturing.acm.org/award_winners/kahn_4598637.cfm); (2) Britannica uses 'Robert' ( https://www.britannica.com/biography/Robert-Elliot-Kahn); (3) His Internet Hall of Fame page uses 'Robert' ( https://www.internethalloffame.org/inductee/robert-kahn/); (4) His Computer History Museum page uses 'Robert' ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKxNMTVnBzM); (5) His academic publications use 'Robert' (e.g. https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/1499949.1499983). The above facts strongly point to the conclusion that 'Robert' is the *more* common name under which he's known by the public (i.e. humanity at large) than 'Bob', and therefore per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names) the page should be moved to 'Robert Kahn'. The fact that he's known as 'Bob' to a small subset of humanity — his family members, friends and professional colleagues — does not show that 'Bob' is the more common name. It may be the more common name among that small circle of people, but it's not more the common name simpliciter. Kwoyeu ( talk) 06:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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On 19 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Robert Kahn. The result of the discussion was Moved to Robert Kahn (computer scientist). |
žI think that he is rihgt,Everyone in the computer research field calls him "Bob Kahn". Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names) says we're supposed to use "the most common name of a person or thing". So I have moved the article to that name. Noel 03:23, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Removed the following pieces of text from the article because they were so wrong:
Anyone who was working on the project in the late 70's will remember the pain we had to go through to get TCP/IP software into the operating system on most machines. "[no] internal changes"? Pfui.
NCP is so totally different from TCP that the connection is tenuous at best. (Also, NCP is usually given as "Network Control Protocol" - although the correct expansion of NCP is actually "Network Control Program" - but the latter is something even I didn't realize until I actually read the old manuals, so I'll give a pass on that).
The whole question of who should be given credit for what in the development of TCP/IP is a lot more complicated that this article makes it sound. Many of the fundamental idea (moving the ack process into the hosts) came from work down by Louis Pouzin, and the people at Xerox PARC had done important precursor work as well. What's in the article is possibly still a bit too thickly laid on, but it's reasonably close to being correct now. Noel 04:10, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
The photograph needs a caption as to when it it was taken. Better yet, it should be replaced with something current. That photo must be 30 years old. -- angrykeyboarder (a/k/a:Scott) 17:18, 3 June 2007 (UTC) he was gay — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.91.202.242 ( talk) 19:28, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Moved to Robert Kahn (computer scientist). Per consensus. – robertsky ( talk) 02:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Bob Kahn → Robert Kahn – (1) His Turing Award page uses 'Robert' ( https://amturing.acm.org/award_winners/kahn_4598637.cfm); (2) Britannica uses 'Robert' ( https://www.britannica.com/biography/Robert-Elliot-Kahn); (3) His Internet Hall of Fame page uses 'Robert' ( https://www.internethalloffame.org/inductee/robert-kahn/); (4) His Computer History Museum page uses 'Robert' ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKxNMTVnBzM); (5) His academic publications use 'Robert' (e.g. https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/1499949.1499983). The above facts strongly point to the conclusion that 'Robert' is the *more* common name under which he's known by the public (i.e. humanity at large) than 'Bob', and therefore per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names) the page should be moved to 'Robert Kahn'. The fact that he's known as 'Bob' to a small subset of humanity — his family members, friends and professional colleagues — does not show that 'Bob' is the more common name. It may be the more common name among that small circle of people, but it's not more the common name simpliciter. Kwoyeu ( talk) 06:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)