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A fact from Bob Harlan appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 24 August 2023 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
The mention of "rumors" about why Jones was let go as Harlan's replacement are just that. I do not believe ANYONE in the Packers organization ever gave any reason other than Jones's health for his quick departure. The comment is unsubstantiated, undocumented, doesn't belong in this article, and I shall remove it. i4 aka
IdioT.SavanT.i4 (
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08:33, 21 September 2009 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
In 1971, he was hired by the Packers as assistant general manager and for the next 18 years was promoted to executive vice president. - This is unclear; at what point was he promoted to EVP? Promotion occurs at a point, not over 18 years.
Probably should mention that the Cardinals were a baseball team, especially considering there was
a football team of that name when he was working there.
I've made a few minor copyedits, otherwise looks good.
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline:
References nicely formatted.
B.
Reliable sources are
cited inline. All content that
could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
Sources appear reliable, mostly newspaper clippings and web articles. FAC will likely want more book sources, but this is fine for here.
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[12]: N I don't see this mentioned in FN25 or 26. There is a mention that the search went "outside the old boys' network", but that's as close as I could find. Y, I reworked that sentence and the previous sentence to better match the sources. « Gonzo fan2007(talk) @ 15:38, 16 August 2023 (UTC)reply
There's maybe a little extra than completely necessary on the life of the franchise after Harlan's time as President, but as he's still part of the board this makes sense.
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
A little heavy on the "praise" side, but there doesn't appear to be much negative media coverage out there and most of the "praise" is quoting or stating team stats.
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing
edit war or content dispute:
Uncontroversial; nothing recent in the talk page or edit history
Hutson Center image is CC2.5, and any ads within the image are likely de minimis. Stadium image contains a statue, but per
a 2010 discussion this is also de minimis. I'm not an expert though, and this could come under more scrutiny at FAC (if you go that route).
Both images are relevant, depicting places mentioned in the article. Both captions indicate the relevance.
Overall:
Pass or Fail:
On hold for 7 days. Excellent article, well-written and, all things considered, pretty well-sourced. Just a few things that need taking care of. AviationFreak💬00:44, 15 August 2023 (UTC)reply
The prose looks great, including the links. The only thing that still needs to be done is a bit of editing to the sourcing (see the "Source Spotchecks" section; there's a "[show]" button on the right to open it). AviationFreak💬19:03, 15 August 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Did you know nomination
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Promoted to "GA" class on 8/16 satisfying newness requirement. Also plenty long enough, well and neutrally written and sourced. Review of Earwig results checks out fine. Hook is short enough, interesting, and supported by in-line citation to reliable source. QPQ is there. Impressive work. Good to go.
Cbl62 (
talk)
01:50, 17 August 2023 (UTC)reply
I think "roots" is colloquial and I see it does appear in the second source after the hook sentence in the article. I do not think it is disallowed so I will promote the hook and if there is an issue with "roots" we can solve it in the prep.
Bruxton (
talk)
15:31, 17 August 2023 (UTC)reply
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A fact from Bob Harlan appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 24 August 2023 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
The mention of "rumors" about why Jones was let go as Harlan's replacement are just that. I do not believe ANYONE in the Packers organization ever gave any reason other than Jones's health for his quick departure. The comment is unsubstantiated, undocumented, doesn't belong in this article, and I shall remove it. i4 aka
IdioT.SavanT.i4 (
talk)
08:33, 21 September 2009 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
In 1971, he was hired by the Packers as assistant general manager and for the next 18 years was promoted to executive vice president. - This is unclear; at what point was he promoted to EVP? Promotion occurs at a point, not over 18 years.
Probably should mention that the Cardinals were a baseball team, especially considering there was
a football team of that name when he was working there.
I've made a few minor copyedits, otherwise looks good.
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline:
References nicely formatted.
B.
Reliable sources are
cited inline. All content that
could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
Sources appear reliable, mostly newspaper clippings and web articles. FAC will likely want more book sources, but this is fine for here.
26
[12]: N I don't see this mentioned in FN25 or 26. There is a mention that the search went "outside the old boys' network", but that's as close as I could find. Y, I reworked that sentence and the previous sentence to better match the sources. « Gonzo fan2007(talk) @ 15:38, 16 August 2023 (UTC)reply
There's maybe a little extra than completely necessary on the life of the franchise after Harlan's time as President, but as he's still part of the board this makes sense.
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
A little heavy on the "praise" side, but there doesn't appear to be much negative media coverage out there and most of the "praise" is quoting or stating team stats.
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing
edit war or content dispute:
Uncontroversial; nothing recent in the talk page or edit history
Hutson Center image is CC2.5, and any ads within the image are likely de minimis. Stadium image contains a statue, but per
a 2010 discussion this is also de minimis. I'm not an expert though, and this could come under more scrutiny at FAC (if you go that route).
Both images are relevant, depicting places mentioned in the article. Both captions indicate the relevance.
Overall:
Pass or Fail:
On hold for 7 days. Excellent article, well-written and, all things considered, pretty well-sourced. Just a few things that need taking care of. AviationFreak💬00:44, 15 August 2023 (UTC)reply
The prose looks great, including the links. The only thing that still needs to be done is a bit of editing to the sourcing (see the "Source Spotchecks" section; there's a "[show]" button on the right to open it). AviationFreak💬19:03, 15 August 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
Promoted to "GA" class on 8/16 satisfying newness requirement. Also plenty long enough, well and neutrally written and sourced. Review of Earwig results checks out fine. Hook is short enough, interesting, and supported by in-line citation to reliable source. QPQ is there. Impressive work. Good to go.
Cbl62 (
talk)
01:50, 17 August 2023 (UTC)reply
I think "roots" is colloquial and I see it does appear in the second source after the hook sentence in the article. I do not think it is disallowed so I will promote the hook and if there is an issue with "roots" we can solve it in the prep.
Bruxton (
talk)
15:31, 17 August 2023 (UTC)reply