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Was it possible to get an internet connection with a blue box? If so, is it mentioned in the article? --
67.180.161.183
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WHY SO SΣRIOUS?23:51, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
67.180.161.183
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05:07, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
You cite Steve Wozniak as the author of the Blue Box. But, in this documentary, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u18BAZjUHhE&html5=True , John Draper is cited as the one and only author. What's going on? Please fix — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karenina12345 ( talk • contribs) 02:53, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Tufte is incorrect. The best book on the topic, Exploding the Phone," by Phil Lapsley, has Ralph Barclay inventing it in 1960. The book cites supporting AT&T, press, FBI documents.-- 173.228.54.225 ( talk) 06:40, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Phone phreaks used exotic birds to reach 2600? Really? REALLY? GD-it wikipedia....I mean seriously wtf? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.166.158.2 ( talk) 13:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
HI OK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.248.86.247 ( talk) 10:04, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
I would like to see some support for the claim that AT&T snipped pages out of the BSTJ issues in college libraries. When I first heard about blueboxing as a Cornell undergraduate in the mid 1970s, I went to the engineering library in Carpenter Hall and found the 1960 BSTJ article listing the MF tones completely intact. (Naturally I made a copy, but I wasn't stupid enough to actually do anything with the information. Or maybe I was just too busy.) So if they did go after campus libraries, they missed Cornell. Or the story is apocryphal. Karn ( talk) 21:24, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Who actually makes this box jobs or wozniak? Despite the fact that many people believe jobs is some sort of technical genius he is not he us a businessman and an art major he studied art at university. I don't think he on his own would have the ability to pull off such building such a device so I assume wozniak made the components
Can someone prove this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.27.131.165 ( talk) 18:16, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
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Edited caption with blue box photo to reflect that it is photo of blue box built and sold by Wozniak and Jobs, donated by me to the Computer Museum in Boston, whose collections became part of Computer History Museum (CHM) in Mountain View, California. This photograph was shot at Powerhouse Museum, which has the blue box on loan from CHM. The reason this particular box is historically significant is because of its makers.
Please see here: https://infostory.com/2011/11/20/hacking-and-blue-boxes/ and here: http://www.panix.com/~davidsol/meme2-07.html
Rickprelinger ( talk) 01:20, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
The name was used to identify 3 different kinds of phone hacking, one of which was the blue box. I can't seem to find any refs on wiki about them. In my days at MIT, 'someone' used T's. These were specific to pay phones. If you remember those, you would pay money in coins to make calls. The money would go into a holding box and at the end of the call, a reverse voltage pulse would be sent from the CO to drop the coins into the coin box. A T was just a diode one would put in the line to block the reverse pulse. After your call, you would make another and hang up before answer. The CO would then send a 'coin return' pulse and presto, all your money came back. I don't know if that hack was ever fixed, but of course pay phones have now vanished. BTW, the common rumor was that out-of-band signaling was added to stop blue-boxing, which is as far as I know just an urban myth. The revenue loss from blue-boxing would never have justified a complete rework of the system. Rather, out-of-band was done to solve other issues like tying up a trunk line for connection negotiation. 69.131.0.72 ( talk) 18:22, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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Was it possible to get an internet connection with a blue box? If so, is it mentioned in the article? --
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WHY SO SΣRIOUS?23:51, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
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05:07, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
You cite Steve Wozniak as the author of the Blue Box. But, in this documentary, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u18BAZjUHhE&html5=True , John Draper is cited as the one and only author. What's going on? Please fix — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karenina12345 ( talk • contribs) 02:53, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Tufte is incorrect. The best book on the topic, Exploding the Phone," by Phil Lapsley, has Ralph Barclay inventing it in 1960. The book cites supporting AT&T, press, FBI documents.-- 173.228.54.225 ( talk) 06:40, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Phone phreaks used exotic birds to reach 2600? Really? REALLY? GD-it wikipedia....I mean seriously wtf? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.166.158.2 ( talk) 13:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
HI OK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.248.86.247 ( talk) 10:04, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
I would like to see some support for the claim that AT&T snipped pages out of the BSTJ issues in college libraries. When I first heard about blueboxing as a Cornell undergraduate in the mid 1970s, I went to the engineering library in Carpenter Hall and found the 1960 BSTJ article listing the MF tones completely intact. (Naturally I made a copy, but I wasn't stupid enough to actually do anything with the information. Or maybe I was just too busy.) So if they did go after campus libraries, they missed Cornell. Or the story is apocryphal. Karn ( talk) 21:24, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Who actually makes this box jobs or wozniak? Despite the fact that many people believe jobs is some sort of technical genius he is not he us a businessman and an art major he studied art at university. I don't think he on his own would have the ability to pull off such building such a device so I assume wozniak made the components
Can someone prove this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.27.131.165 ( talk) 18:16, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
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Edited caption with blue box photo to reflect that it is photo of blue box built and sold by Wozniak and Jobs, donated by me to the Computer Museum in Boston, whose collections became part of Computer History Museum (CHM) in Mountain View, California. This photograph was shot at Powerhouse Museum, which has the blue box on loan from CHM. The reason this particular box is historically significant is because of its makers.
Please see here: https://infostory.com/2011/11/20/hacking-and-blue-boxes/ and here: http://www.panix.com/~davidsol/meme2-07.html
Rickprelinger ( talk) 01:20, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
The name was used to identify 3 different kinds of phone hacking, one of which was the blue box. I can't seem to find any refs on wiki about them. In my days at MIT, 'someone' used T's. These were specific to pay phones. If you remember those, you would pay money in coins to make calls. The money would go into a holding box and at the end of the call, a reverse voltage pulse would be sent from the CO to drop the coins into the coin box. A T was just a diode one would put in the line to block the reverse pulse. After your call, you would make another and hang up before answer. The CO would then send a 'coin return' pulse and presto, all your money came back. I don't know if that hack was ever fixed, but of course pay phones have now vanished. BTW, the common rumor was that out-of-band signaling was added to stop blue-boxing, which is as far as I know just an urban myth. The revenue loss from blue-boxing would never have justified a complete rework of the system. Rather, out-of-band was done to solve other issues like tying up a trunk line for connection negotiation. 69.131.0.72 ( talk) 18:22, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
+91 73552 75208 49.156.111.151 ( talk) 14:08, 18 October 2023 (UTC)