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So far, no response from B+V on when they adopted the + versus the &. Anyone have any insight? - Joseph (Talk) 03:26, 2004 Sep 28 (UTC)
I would like to replace this page with a little introduction about the history of the company and its branches, then move on to two different pages: Blohm & Voss as shipbuilders versus Hamburger Flugzeugbau/Blohm&Voss aircraft from 1933 to 1945, Possibly with a third link to Hamburger Flugzeugbau as a production site since 1955
I’ve removed this
"The company's name is often found spelled Blohm + Voß in
German (and occasionally
English) sources"
I have never seen the
eszett used in the name in any English language source; all the standard reference works (Janes, Conway etc) use "Voss", as do English editions of German works (like Niestle).
And there is nothing at the note, or the company website
[1], or the german WP articles on the company
[2], or on Voss himself
[3], to support the statement that it is correct in German, either.
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00:09, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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Should the article title be Blohm + Voss as at present or Blohm+Voss as per the company logo and commonly used, e.g. [4]? Is there some arcane Wiki law that says we must insert spaces? — Cheers, Steelpillow ( Talk) 20:50, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
I have started a discussion here about which aircraft to discuss in this article and which at Hamburger Flugzeugbau. All contributions welcome. — Cheers, Steelpillow ( Talk) 08:21, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
User Steelpillow do vandalism in editions, while after Lürssen got the Yard, only ships and yacht repair is to be done with less personnel and costs from today. A guy in United Kingdow does not know the daily news of Hamburg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.96.57.201 ( talk) 18:58, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
The B+V web site includes offshore installations in their current product line. This is well cited in the article and should not be removed without forming a consensus here first. — Cheers, Steelpillow ( Talk) 19:03, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
As of 2017 the shipyard consists basically in an area of approx. 421,300 m², a Quay length of approx. 2,100 m , Covered manufacturing facilities of approx. 92,000 m² with those Dry docks [shipyard 1]:
1.
Dock 17 :
Length: 351.2 m,
Breadth: 59.2 m,
Draft: 09.7 m, For ships up to: 320,000 dwt,
Crane
capacity: 2 × 10 t, 2 × 50 t
2. Dock 10 : Length: 287.5 m, Breadth: 44.3 m, Draft: 10.2 m, For ships up to: 130,000 dwt, Lifting capacity: 50,000 t, Crane capacity: 2 × 15 t, 2 × 35 t
3. Dock 11 : Length: 320.0 m, Breadth: 52.0 m, Draft: 10.8 m, For ships up to: 250,000 dwt, Lifting capacity: 65,000 t, Crane capacity: 2 × 10 t, 2 × 35 t
4. Dock 16 : Length: 206.0 m, Breadth: 32.0 m, Draft: 09.5 m, For ships up to: 032,000 dwt, Lifting capacity: 20,000 t, Crane capacity: 2 × 15 t, 1 × 50 t
5. Dock 06 : Length: 162.5 m, Breadth: 24.5 m, Draft: 08.0 m, For ships up to: 018,000 dwt, Lifting capacity: 09,000 t, No Crane capacity
6. Dock 05 : Length: 160.0 m, Breadth: 28.0 m, Draft: 08.0 m, For ships up to: 018,000 dwt, Lifting capacity: 09,000 t, Crane capacity: 2 × 5 t
7. Dock 12 : Length: 143.0 m, Breadth: 25.0 m, Draft: 08.0 m, For ships up to: 016,000 dwt, Lifting capacity: 06,000 t, Crane capacity: 2 × 15 t, 2 × 35 t
1. According the new German language, Eszett is old. 2. Offshore is no longer a product. It was British Star Capital Product connection 3. It is not a shipbuilding anymore, just shipyard, while since 1 year, no new entire construction is in pallet, just repair. 4. 1/3 of entire facility stays, the rest would be rented for third people. In city the docks are a important reference 5. Since is in german hands again, it concentrates in Bremen Yard tasks.
So, the ones who does not know German language, can't read local german newspaper to be updated. It is the life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.96.57.201 ( talk) 14:43, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
User:92.76.27.83 you keep adding content conflating things related to the MKS180 and the K130. These are two entirely different projects. You are also trying to bury the fact that the German government eliminated Lürssen and ThyssenKruppfrom the the MKS180 contract, apparently based on their poor performance on the F125. This is absolutely unacceptable. In any case please reply to my inquiry on your talk page. Jytdog ( talk) 20:12, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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So far, no response from B+V on when they adopted the + versus the &. Anyone have any insight? - Joseph (Talk) 03:26, 2004 Sep 28 (UTC)
I would like to replace this page with a little introduction about the history of the company and its branches, then move on to two different pages: Blohm & Voss as shipbuilders versus Hamburger Flugzeugbau/Blohm&Voss aircraft from 1933 to 1945, Possibly with a third link to Hamburger Flugzeugbau as a production site since 1955
I’ve removed this
"The company's name is often found spelled Blohm + Voß in
German (and occasionally
English) sources"
I have never seen the
eszett used in the name in any English language source; all the standard reference works (Janes, Conway etc) use "Voss", as do English editions of German works (like Niestle).
And there is nothing at the note, or the company website
[1], or the german WP articles on the company
[2], or on Voss himself
[3], to support the statement that it is correct in German, either.
Xyl 54 (
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00:09, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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Should the article title be Blohm + Voss as at present or Blohm+Voss as per the company logo and commonly used, e.g. [4]? Is there some arcane Wiki law that says we must insert spaces? — Cheers, Steelpillow ( Talk) 20:50, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
I have started a discussion here about which aircraft to discuss in this article and which at Hamburger Flugzeugbau. All contributions welcome. — Cheers, Steelpillow ( Talk) 08:21, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
User Steelpillow do vandalism in editions, while after Lürssen got the Yard, only ships and yacht repair is to be done with less personnel and costs from today. A guy in United Kingdow does not know the daily news of Hamburg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.96.57.201 ( talk) 18:58, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
The B+V web site includes offshore installations in their current product line. This is well cited in the article and should not be removed without forming a consensus here first. — Cheers, Steelpillow ( Talk) 19:03, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
As of 2017 the shipyard consists basically in an area of approx. 421,300 m², a Quay length of approx. 2,100 m , Covered manufacturing facilities of approx. 92,000 m² with those Dry docks [shipyard 1]:
1.
Dock 17 :
Length: 351.2 m,
Breadth: 59.2 m,
Draft: 09.7 m, For ships up to: 320,000 dwt,
Crane
capacity: 2 × 10 t, 2 × 50 t
2. Dock 10 : Length: 287.5 m, Breadth: 44.3 m, Draft: 10.2 m, For ships up to: 130,000 dwt, Lifting capacity: 50,000 t, Crane capacity: 2 × 15 t, 2 × 35 t
3. Dock 11 : Length: 320.0 m, Breadth: 52.0 m, Draft: 10.8 m, For ships up to: 250,000 dwt, Lifting capacity: 65,000 t, Crane capacity: 2 × 10 t, 2 × 35 t
4. Dock 16 : Length: 206.0 m, Breadth: 32.0 m, Draft: 09.5 m, For ships up to: 032,000 dwt, Lifting capacity: 20,000 t, Crane capacity: 2 × 15 t, 1 × 50 t
5. Dock 06 : Length: 162.5 m, Breadth: 24.5 m, Draft: 08.0 m, For ships up to: 018,000 dwt, Lifting capacity: 09,000 t, No Crane capacity
6. Dock 05 : Length: 160.0 m, Breadth: 28.0 m, Draft: 08.0 m, For ships up to: 018,000 dwt, Lifting capacity: 09,000 t, Crane capacity: 2 × 5 t
7. Dock 12 : Length: 143.0 m, Breadth: 25.0 m, Draft: 08.0 m, For ships up to: 016,000 dwt, Lifting capacity: 06,000 t, Crane capacity: 2 × 15 t, 2 × 35 t
1. According the new German language, Eszett is old. 2. Offshore is no longer a product. It was British Star Capital Product connection 3. It is not a shipbuilding anymore, just shipyard, while since 1 year, no new entire construction is in pallet, just repair. 4. 1/3 of entire facility stays, the rest would be rented for third people. In city the docks are a important reference 5. Since is in german hands again, it concentrates in Bremen Yard tasks.
So, the ones who does not know German language, can't read local german newspaper to be updated. It is the life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.96.57.201 ( talk) 14:43, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
User:92.76.27.83 you keep adding content conflating things related to the MKS180 and the K130. These are two entirely different projects. You are also trying to bury the fact that the German government eliminated Lürssen and ThyssenKruppfrom the the MKS180 contract, apparently based on their poor performance on the F125. This is absolutely unacceptable. In any case please reply to my inquiry on your talk page. Jytdog ( talk) 20:12, 30 April 2018 (UTC)