This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Blackwater (company) article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5Auto-archiving period: 30 days |
Blackwater (company) was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||
| |||||||||||||
News items involving this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the " In the news" column on October 3, 2007, and May 8, 2009. | |||||||||||||
Current status: Former good article nominee |
This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
The subsection "Federal prosecution" has become confused, especially now that there are pardons (which Biden may be asked to cancel). Who was convicted of what and who was sentenced to what? Errantius ( talk) 00:29, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Blackwater (company) ( closed by non-admin page mover) BegbertBiggs ( talk) 15:17, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
– Blackwater is plainly the WP:COMMONNAME and appropriate title for this article. Sources from after the name change (other than the company itself) most frequently refer to it as "Blackwater," and that is the name by which it is best known to the public. For example, the Guardian publishes in 2014 "US jury convicts Blackwater guards in 2007 killing of Iraqi civilians" and Foreign Policy that same year "Blackwater's Descendants Are Doing Just Fine". Years after the name change, journalists understand that Blackwater is still the name their readers will recognize, and "Academi," while official, remains obscure. The company changed its name twice specifically to escape its own notoriety, so this is by design. The disambiguation page also needs to be moved to "Blackwater (disambiguation)," for which "Blackwater" would be the primary topic. I'm aware this has been discussed before, but the arguments for the current name had little relation to naming policy, and the original move discussion was closed with only six participants. — Rutebega ( talk) 05:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Blackwater USA has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please fix the double redirect Blackwater USA by retargeting it to Blackwater (company). This is necessary due to the recent move (see above section). BegbertBiggs ( talk) 15:41, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
I just edited the lead to reflect the naming history of this company as I've been able to ascertain it. Much of the previous lead appeared to lean on the Constellis company's official site 'About us' section [1], which on its own is a little problematic (see WP:PRIMARY). But the real problem I found with that is that site claims (both) that Constellis was formed in 2010, but that "Constellis Group, Inc." was first established in 2011 (as a holding company that included Triple Canopy). In addition, I was unable to find ANY mention of Constellis in ANY news sources prior to 2014 [2]. Taken together, that seriously discounts the reliability of the website. So I've added what I can from other reliable sources. PhotogenicScientist ( talk) 15:18, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Blackwater (company) article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5Auto-archiving period: 30 days |
Blackwater (company) was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||
| |||||||||||||
News items involving this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the " In the news" column on October 3, 2007, and May 8, 2009. | |||||||||||||
Current status: Former good article nominee |
This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
The subsection "Federal prosecution" has become confused, especially now that there are pardons (which Biden may be asked to cancel). Who was convicted of what and who was sentenced to what? Errantius ( talk) 00:29, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Blackwater (company) ( closed by non-admin page mover) BegbertBiggs ( talk) 15:17, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
– Blackwater is plainly the WP:COMMONNAME and appropriate title for this article. Sources from after the name change (other than the company itself) most frequently refer to it as "Blackwater," and that is the name by which it is best known to the public. For example, the Guardian publishes in 2014 "US jury convicts Blackwater guards in 2007 killing of Iraqi civilians" and Foreign Policy that same year "Blackwater's Descendants Are Doing Just Fine". Years after the name change, journalists understand that Blackwater is still the name their readers will recognize, and "Academi," while official, remains obscure. The company changed its name twice specifically to escape its own notoriety, so this is by design. The disambiguation page also needs to be moved to "Blackwater (disambiguation)," for which "Blackwater" would be the primary topic. I'm aware this has been discussed before, but the arguments for the current name had little relation to naming policy, and the original move discussion was closed with only six participants. — Rutebega ( talk) 05:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Blackwater USA has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please fix the double redirect Blackwater USA by retargeting it to Blackwater (company). This is necessary due to the recent move (see above section). BegbertBiggs ( talk) 15:41, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
I just edited the lead to reflect the naming history of this company as I've been able to ascertain it. Much of the previous lead appeared to lean on the Constellis company's official site 'About us' section [1], which on its own is a little problematic (see WP:PRIMARY). But the real problem I found with that is that site claims (both) that Constellis was formed in 2010, but that "Constellis Group, Inc." was first established in 2011 (as a holding company that included Triple Canopy). In addition, I was unable to find ANY mention of Constellis in ANY news sources prior to 2014 [2]. Taken together, that seriously discounts the reliability of the website. So I've added what I can from other reliable sources. PhotogenicScientist ( talk) 15:18, 4 May 2023 (UTC)