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I read that Blackpool is the first customer for the new Bombardier Flexity 2 Tram. But this isn't mentioned in the article. -- 88.65.39.30 ( talk) 10:20, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps a local could expand the article to tell us aobut the age, manufacturer and details of the rolling stock? -- Geo Swan 04:27, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Hello
I am new to this; I hope that my posting a suggestion in this way is not the wrong way to do things. Under 'tramcar fleet', I notice that the 'balloon cars' are said to have a top speed of 43 mph / 70kph, just like the new cars. I don't think that's right! The new cars have motors sufficiently powerfull to allow them to reach that speed and, I should imagine, electronic control that limits the speed to this value. In contrast, the first generation Balloons, with classic DC control, have no well defined top speed. Rather, they have a 'balancing speed' at which the tractive effort of motors balances the frictional 'rolling resistance' from the track, the air and so on. With the exception of 'Coronations', Blackpool cars were always noticeably under-powered in comparison with other British tramways. In reality, their two 55hp motors could scarcely attain a balancing speed of 25-30 mph. (Some years ago, a visiting four-motor 140hp Glasgow Coronation reached 35-40.) But the point is that all these older cars with simple DC series motors don't really have a 'top speed'. Certainly not one given to two decimal places (43 mph!). It's nonsense! May I suggest appropriate changes to the text?
Again, apologies if I haven't followed procedure here; I'm new to this. And I can't find tildes! I write in good faith.
Regards,
Bill — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.170.62 ( talk) 23:03, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
No mention of Bradley being killed by a Blackpool tram in Coronation Street? That will never do! - Dudesleeper 12:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
some info about the balloon cars appears to be wrong according to another website, since this articles info is not referenced I shall correct it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.108.223 ( talk) 22:17, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello all,
A few things:
Thanks,
BG 7 19:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I have a suggestion to make about the formatting of the Depot and Fleet sections. Although lists are generally deprecated, there are places where it's appropriate to use them, and I think these two sections are such places. I've modified the Depot section to show what I mean. Using this embedded list format has the additional benefit of reducing the clutter in the TOC, something that was commented on in the peer review. (See embedded lists.) -- Malleus Fatuorum ( talk) 15:59, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Would anyone object if i capitalise the T in tramway as it is its name? Simply south ( talk) 18:46, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
I think it might be worth experimenting with turning the map diagram the other way up. The route on the ground is pretty much North–South in layout. When I first glanced at the map it took a bit of looking at to realise that Fleetwood had been placed at the bottom! (Therefore placing things like the depot, on the "wrong" side). Would be worth switching the map diagram around? — Sladen ( talk) 13:21, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Any chance that we could list all the stops, yes it would be long but several places are mentioned on this page that arnt in the diagram. -- 83.105.97.218 ( talk) 01:53, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
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I've noticed that the last sentence of the introduction states this:
It is also one of only three operational tramways in the world that operates using double-deck tram systems, the other two places being Hong Kong and Alexandria in Egypt
I know for a fact that the Birkenhead Heritage Tramway also uses double-deckers and there might be other tramways that have not been mentioned that do the same.
The reference at the end of the sentence leads to this newspaper article which gives no information whatsoever about using double-deck trams.
I will edit the sentence, remove this reference and replace it with the citation needed template.
Does anyone have a list of double-decker tramways which could be incorporated into the sentence or are there even any other double-decker tramways in existence?
Regards, Raywil ( talk) 02:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I hope this is not a repeat, but there seems to be a numeral missing (fotoguzzi) 131.252.208.28 ( talk) 11:37, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Would it be better to replace the specifications tables with {{ Infobox tram}}? Mjroots ( talk) 06:30, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Someone seems to have used the wrong symbols on the track diagram. The Blackpool Tramway is still very much in use, but the light blue symbols indicate that the whole system has been closed. 109.153.242.10 ( talk) 14:31, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
This is unclear from the article.
But, on the official website it says "Tramway Closed from Monday 7 November 2011 .... The tramway is now closed until Easter 2012" ( [2] and [3]).
So is this actually an operational public transport service or not? TiffaF ( talk) 16:31, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
The routes and timetables in the table in this section have no resemblance to those on the official site. See here and follow Tramway > Timetables. This shows just one route in each direction. Any thoughts, please? TerriersFan ( talk) 01:29, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
I cleared situation with maps. I removed old schematic PNG map (it problem was that it was not keeping scale, and does not have stops number but intersections which was misleading and has no background). I added two SVG maps - one for entire network, and one focusing on dismantled branches showing city of Blackpool. In case of any comments about maps please let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkan997 ( talk • contribs) 09:23, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi I created map of dismantled tramway network and I will be glad to add some details -
-- Jkan997 ( talk) 09:32, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
This is an excellent article - thanks to all.
One area that is not covered is that of the earliest vehicles, those before the ones that currently serve in the heritage fleet. The (Shrewsbury patent) Dreadnought and the Toastracks come to mind. Anyone who knows more than I do willing to have a go? And should it be a new section or a linked article - this page is getting quite long. Might be difficult getting copyright-free photos, but hopefully one of the enthusiast societies might be generous. Thanks in hope! . John M Brear ( talk) 20:46, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Articles about all the tram stops served by Blackpool tramway have been nominated for deletion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Starr Gate tram stop (Blackpool Tram) for the discussion about Starr Gate stop and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Little Bispham tram stop (Blackpool) for the discussion about all the other stops. Thryduulf ( talk) 13:09, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
I've upgraded this article's infobox to {{ Infobox tram network}}. Someone knowledgeable may wish to use that template's historic parameters to add details for the former extent of the network. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:53, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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Exact fares have been removed for the article. Wikipedia isn't a travel guide and is not the place to go to find out how much the tram costs. References have been left to remain to provide an encyclopedic context to ticketing, the fares can still be accessed through these. Ajf773 ( talk) 19:59, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
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I read that Blackpool is the first customer for the new Bombardier Flexity 2 Tram. But this isn't mentioned in the article. -- 88.65.39.30 ( talk) 10:20, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps a local could expand the article to tell us aobut the age, manufacturer and details of the rolling stock? -- Geo Swan 04:27, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Hello
I am new to this; I hope that my posting a suggestion in this way is not the wrong way to do things. Under 'tramcar fleet', I notice that the 'balloon cars' are said to have a top speed of 43 mph / 70kph, just like the new cars. I don't think that's right! The new cars have motors sufficiently powerfull to allow them to reach that speed and, I should imagine, electronic control that limits the speed to this value. In contrast, the first generation Balloons, with classic DC control, have no well defined top speed. Rather, they have a 'balancing speed' at which the tractive effort of motors balances the frictional 'rolling resistance' from the track, the air and so on. With the exception of 'Coronations', Blackpool cars were always noticeably under-powered in comparison with other British tramways. In reality, their two 55hp motors could scarcely attain a balancing speed of 25-30 mph. (Some years ago, a visiting four-motor 140hp Glasgow Coronation reached 35-40.) But the point is that all these older cars with simple DC series motors don't really have a 'top speed'. Certainly not one given to two decimal places (43 mph!). It's nonsense! May I suggest appropriate changes to the text?
Again, apologies if I haven't followed procedure here; I'm new to this. And I can't find tildes! I write in good faith.
Regards,
Bill — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.170.62 ( talk) 23:03, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
No mention of Bradley being killed by a Blackpool tram in Coronation Street? That will never do! - Dudesleeper 12:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
some info about the balloon cars appears to be wrong according to another website, since this articles info is not referenced I shall correct it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.108.223 ( talk) 22:17, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello all,
A few things:
Thanks,
BG 7 19:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I have a suggestion to make about the formatting of the Depot and Fleet sections. Although lists are generally deprecated, there are places where it's appropriate to use them, and I think these two sections are such places. I've modified the Depot section to show what I mean. Using this embedded list format has the additional benefit of reducing the clutter in the TOC, something that was commented on in the peer review. (See embedded lists.) -- Malleus Fatuorum ( talk) 15:59, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Would anyone object if i capitalise the T in tramway as it is its name? Simply south ( talk) 18:46, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
I think it might be worth experimenting with turning the map diagram the other way up. The route on the ground is pretty much North–South in layout. When I first glanced at the map it took a bit of looking at to realise that Fleetwood had been placed at the bottom! (Therefore placing things like the depot, on the "wrong" side). Would be worth switching the map diagram around? — Sladen ( talk) 13:21, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Any chance that we could list all the stops, yes it would be long but several places are mentioned on this page that arnt in the diagram. -- 83.105.97.218 ( talk) 01:53, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
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I've noticed that the last sentence of the introduction states this:
It is also one of only three operational tramways in the world that operates using double-deck tram systems, the other two places being Hong Kong and Alexandria in Egypt
I know for a fact that the Birkenhead Heritage Tramway also uses double-deckers and there might be other tramways that have not been mentioned that do the same.
The reference at the end of the sentence leads to this newspaper article which gives no information whatsoever about using double-deck trams.
I will edit the sentence, remove this reference and replace it with the citation needed template.
Does anyone have a list of double-decker tramways which could be incorporated into the sentence or are there even any other double-decker tramways in existence?
Regards, Raywil ( talk) 02:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I hope this is not a repeat, but there seems to be a numeral missing (fotoguzzi) 131.252.208.28 ( talk) 11:37, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Would it be better to replace the specifications tables with {{ Infobox tram}}? Mjroots ( talk) 06:30, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Someone seems to have used the wrong symbols on the track diagram. The Blackpool Tramway is still very much in use, but the light blue symbols indicate that the whole system has been closed. 109.153.242.10 ( talk) 14:31, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
This is unclear from the article.
But, on the official website it says "Tramway Closed from Monday 7 November 2011 .... The tramway is now closed until Easter 2012" ( [2] and [3]).
So is this actually an operational public transport service or not? TiffaF ( talk) 16:31, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
The routes and timetables in the table in this section have no resemblance to those on the official site. See here and follow Tramway > Timetables. This shows just one route in each direction. Any thoughts, please? TerriersFan ( talk) 01:29, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
I cleared situation with maps. I removed old schematic PNG map (it problem was that it was not keeping scale, and does not have stops number but intersections which was misleading and has no background). I added two SVG maps - one for entire network, and one focusing on dismantled branches showing city of Blackpool. In case of any comments about maps please let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkan997 ( talk • contribs) 09:23, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi I created map of dismantled tramway network and I will be glad to add some details -
-- Jkan997 ( talk) 09:32, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
This is an excellent article - thanks to all.
One area that is not covered is that of the earliest vehicles, those before the ones that currently serve in the heritage fleet. The (Shrewsbury patent) Dreadnought and the Toastracks come to mind. Anyone who knows more than I do willing to have a go? And should it be a new section or a linked article - this page is getting quite long. Might be difficult getting copyright-free photos, but hopefully one of the enthusiast societies might be generous. Thanks in hope! . John M Brear ( talk) 20:46, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Articles about all the tram stops served by Blackpool tramway have been nominated for deletion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Starr Gate tram stop (Blackpool Tram) for the discussion about Starr Gate stop and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Little Bispham tram stop (Blackpool) for the discussion about all the other stops. Thryduulf ( talk) 13:09, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
I've upgraded this article's infobox to {{ Infobox tram network}}. Someone knowledgeable may wish to use that template's historic parameters to add details for the former extent of the network. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:53, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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Exact fares have been removed for the article. Wikipedia isn't a travel guide and is not the place to go to find out how much the tram costs. References have been left to remain to provide an encyclopedic context to ticketing, the fares can still be accessed through these. Ajf773 ( talk) 19:59, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
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