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Satanica was NOT the first album to fuse black and death metal. That album came out in 1999! Pessimist were together in 1988! This article needs to be fixed up. 70.18.251.175 ( talk) 00:49, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Is this really a subgenre of death metal? To me it seems like it's more of a description that fits certain death or black metal bands, more than a specific genre. Mr. Death 23:13, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't think this should be a specific genre either. Bands using both styles' features is nothing new, but I think the moniker death/black is pretty intuitive without being made into a genre. Darkthrone, a major black band had a death metal album, so the connections between the two styles are quite clear. Ehm, omitting the (old) usual metal infighting between fans and bands
This article should be moved. It could remain as a subgenre in the Death Metal article, but like the commen above said, it's not a specific genre, but a descriptor.
Blackened Death Metal is popular Europe especially in Poland and Austria. Belphegor's 1st Album "the last supper" is definitely pure Death metal, but their 2nd CD "Blutsabbath" could be seen(1999), as the first blackened Death metal production. This genre is really underground (even in Europe)some people don't know the difference,but there's a homogene mix of ultra-fast "black drums", mostly "death riffs", screams and death grunts. The lyrics often deal with Satanic content. sorry for my bad english mfg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.226.15.82 ( talk) 21:20, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
If a band plays more than one genre, it is usually reffered to as Black/Death Metal or Thrash/Death Metal or whatever (just to indicate that both genres are applicable) but not as Blackened Death Metal or Trashed Death Metal or whatever. And how do you call a band that plays mainly Black Metal with Death Metal influences instead of vice versa? a Deathened Black Metal band maybe? Come on, only when notable magz and books consitently start using the term "Blackened Death Metal", can this term be used as a Wiki-page. If a band wishes to discribe itself as Progressive Epic Thrash/Death Metal or whatever, cheers to that, but don't make it a seperate Wiki entry. Page should just be deleted... 81.88.110.49 ( talk) 10:55, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
would deicide be considered blackened death metal? Their sound is death metal and they have satanic themes just as black metal does. 68.119.197.242 ( talk) 01:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
There appears to be no source to state that "blackened death metal" as we currently understand the term (if indeed we accept the term) was started with Behemoth's Satanica. There are plenty of examples of black/death metal crossovers before this; The Somberlain and Storm of the Light's Bane spring to mind for instance. That element of the article should probably be excised without source. Blackmetalbaz ( talk) 01:33, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated for AfD as this is basically an unsourced, made up genre. Someone presumably having a laugh. 90.214.234.45 ( talk) 21:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
well essentially this genre is death metal which employs some black metal playing styles, attitude, appearance, lyrical content etc. Oh yeah, was quite shocked not to see Necrophobic's 'The Nocturnal Silence' on this. 86.11.41.126 ( talk) 12:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
The article is substantially changed from this version, which it had back in 2008 when it was voted for it to be merged into Death metal. Sources abound. I initially incorrectly tagged it as CS4, but given the major changes, which are properly sourced, I believe we can safely keep it in wikipedia. -- 1l2l3k ( talk) 15:51, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
According to this and this, the lead section should be longer. Should we blend part of the characteristic section to the lead? ~SML • TP 21:37, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
@ ABC paulista:@ Issan Sumisu: ~SML • TP 17:11, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
@ Issan Sumisu: ~SML • TP 17:54, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
According to Peereview, this article should:
~SML • TP 19:33, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
@ Issan Sumisu:@ ABC paulista: ~SML • TP 19:46, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
When exactly has Bestial Black Metal been replaced by war metal? -- Zz ( talk) 20:05, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
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Satanica was NOT the first album to fuse black and death metal. That album came out in 1999! Pessimist were together in 1988! This article needs to be fixed up. 70.18.251.175 ( talk) 00:49, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Is this really a subgenre of death metal? To me it seems like it's more of a description that fits certain death or black metal bands, more than a specific genre. Mr. Death 23:13, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't think this should be a specific genre either. Bands using both styles' features is nothing new, but I think the moniker death/black is pretty intuitive without being made into a genre. Darkthrone, a major black band had a death metal album, so the connections between the two styles are quite clear. Ehm, omitting the (old) usual metal infighting between fans and bands
This article should be moved. It could remain as a subgenre in the Death Metal article, but like the commen above said, it's not a specific genre, but a descriptor.
Blackened Death Metal is popular Europe especially in Poland and Austria. Belphegor's 1st Album "the last supper" is definitely pure Death metal, but their 2nd CD "Blutsabbath" could be seen(1999), as the first blackened Death metal production. This genre is really underground (even in Europe)some people don't know the difference,but there's a homogene mix of ultra-fast "black drums", mostly "death riffs", screams and death grunts. The lyrics often deal with Satanic content. sorry for my bad english mfg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.226.15.82 ( talk) 21:20, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
If a band plays more than one genre, it is usually reffered to as Black/Death Metal or Thrash/Death Metal or whatever (just to indicate that both genres are applicable) but not as Blackened Death Metal or Trashed Death Metal or whatever. And how do you call a band that plays mainly Black Metal with Death Metal influences instead of vice versa? a Deathened Black Metal band maybe? Come on, only when notable magz and books consitently start using the term "Blackened Death Metal", can this term be used as a Wiki-page. If a band wishes to discribe itself as Progressive Epic Thrash/Death Metal or whatever, cheers to that, but don't make it a seperate Wiki entry. Page should just be deleted... 81.88.110.49 ( talk) 10:55, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
would deicide be considered blackened death metal? Their sound is death metal and they have satanic themes just as black metal does. 68.119.197.242 ( talk) 01:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
There appears to be no source to state that "blackened death metal" as we currently understand the term (if indeed we accept the term) was started with Behemoth's Satanica. There are plenty of examples of black/death metal crossovers before this; The Somberlain and Storm of the Light's Bane spring to mind for instance. That element of the article should probably be excised without source. Blackmetalbaz ( talk) 01:33, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated for AfD as this is basically an unsourced, made up genre. Someone presumably having a laugh. 90.214.234.45 ( talk) 21:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
well essentially this genre is death metal which employs some black metal playing styles, attitude, appearance, lyrical content etc. Oh yeah, was quite shocked not to see Necrophobic's 'The Nocturnal Silence' on this. 86.11.41.126 ( talk) 12:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
The article is substantially changed from this version, which it had back in 2008 when it was voted for it to be merged into Death metal. Sources abound. I initially incorrectly tagged it as CS4, but given the major changes, which are properly sourced, I believe we can safely keep it in wikipedia. -- 1l2l3k ( talk) 15:51, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
According to this and this, the lead section should be longer. Should we blend part of the characteristic section to the lead? ~SML • TP 21:37, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
@ ABC paulista:@ Issan Sumisu: ~SML • TP 17:11, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
@ Issan Sumisu: ~SML • TP 17:54, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
According to Peereview, this article should:
~SML • TP 19:33, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
@ Issan Sumisu:@ ABC paulista: ~SML • TP 19:46, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
When exactly has Bestial Black Metal been replaced by war metal? -- Zz ( talk) 20:05, 15 September 2020 (UTC)