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What is the "Claire Voyant" section doing at the start of the page?
Could s.o. please write an intro to the paragraph explaining what it's doing on the Marvel "Black Widow" page??
99.11.160.111 (
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19:53, 26 June 2012 (UTC)reply
Monica Chang page
In light of the Earth-616 version of Monica Chang being introduced in the pages of Avengers A.I., I am suggesting that a separate page be created for her. Any objections?
Rtkat3 (
talk) 7:30, January 18 2014 (UTC)
I move for this change, since taking note of her current run may take up a lot of space on the page over time and moving it to a separate page would solve the problem before it became an issue.
Somevagueusername (
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05:28, 16 June 2014 (UTC)|talk]]) 23:30, 15 June 2014 (UTC)reply
The name deserves a disambiguation page at least, as Natasha Romanoff is the particularly notable version, followed by the line of super spies. Is it possible to design the page similar to Baron Zemo, where specific characters are linked off from an entry on the publication history of the name?
RevoltPuppy (
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17:32, 21 November 2018 (UTC)reply
It’s obviously an article right now. My issue is when some unconnected characters with the same name are together. For example: Claire Voyant. She has no relation or connection to the others. She is not an incarnation of the most notable Black Widow (Natasha) so I don’t think she should interconnect together on this article or the navbox either. I am aware that the article does says that. But I feel a disambiguation, hatnote, see also / other characters section should probably reflect that better.
Jhenderson77723:37, 21 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Not much of an article. It just lists several characters with a brief overview of each. And as you pointed out, the article doesn’t assert that there are any other connections beside their name and are published by Marvel. I think you are just reading too much into it, but perhaps this could be made more explicit in the lead.—
TriiipleThreat (
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00:28, 22 November 2018 (UTC)reply
I feel that if they don’t assert then there don’t need to be an article on the name title (but maybe a disambiguation page or redirection to section). Unless it’s about incarnations of characers that are alike. It’s quite simple. Sorry if I am not that clear.
Jhenderson77700:59, 22 November 2018 (UTC)reply
I disagree, the name is the only connection that is needed for this article. It acts as a disambiguation page for characters named Black Widow that are published by Marvel Comics. It points readers to the specific character article that they might be searching for and it doesn’t imply that there are any connections that are not there. The character overviews are nessecary to distinguish each character from each other and helping unfamiliar readers make a more informed choice. It does not and is not meant to tie these characters together from an
in-universe perspective.—
TriiipleThreat (
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12:03, 22 November 2018 (UTC)reply
There is already a disambiguation for the things called
Black widow, this is a set index because they also share the characteristic that they are all comic book characters published by Marvel Comics.—17:38, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
Fine then. I still would prefer a redirection because (like you said) it’s “not much an article”. Also I don’t feel like my statement mean to sound like I prefer in-universe. Because I don’t. I already know of that guideline and I prefer real world info.
Jhenderson77721:33, 22 November 2018 (UTC)reply
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What is the "Claire Voyant" section doing at the start of the page?
Could s.o. please write an intro to the paragraph explaining what it's doing on the Marvel "Black Widow" page??
99.11.160.111 (
talk)
19:53, 26 June 2012 (UTC)reply
Monica Chang page
In light of the Earth-616 version of Monica Chang being introduced in the pages of Avengers A.I., I am suggesting that a separate page be created for her. Any objections?
Rtkat3 (
talk) 7:30, January 18 2014 (UTC)
I move for this change, since taking note of her current run may take up a lot of space on the page over time and moving it to a separate page would solve the problem before it became an issue.
Somevagueusername (
talk)
05:28, 16 June 2014 (UTC)|talk]]) 23:30, 15 June 2014 (UTC)reply
The name deserves a disambiguation page at least, as Natasha Romanoff is the particularly notable version, followed by the line of super spies. Is it possible to design the page similar to Baron Zemo, where specific characters are linked off from an entry on the publication history of the name?
RevoltPuppy (
talk)
17:32, 21 November 2018 (UTC)reply
It’s obviously an article right now. My issue is when some unconnected characters with the same name are together. For example: Claire Voyant. She has no relation or connection to the others. She is not an incarnation of the most notable Black Widow (Natasha) so I don’t think she should interconnect together on this article or the navbox either. I am aware that the article does says that. But I feel a disambiguation, hatnote, see also / other characters section should probably reflect that better.
Jhenderson77723:37, 21 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Not much of an article. It just lists several characters with a brief overview of each. And as you pointed out, the article doesn’t assert that there are any other connections beside their name and are published by Marvel. I think you are just reading too much into it, but perhaps this could be made more explicit in the lead.—
TriiipleThreat (
talk)
00:28, 22 November 2018 (UTC)reply
I feel that if they don’t assert then there don’t need to be an article on the name title (but maybe a disambiguation page or redirection to section). Unless it’s about incarnations of characers that are alike. It’s quite simple. Sorry if I am not that clear.
Jhenderson77700:59, 22 November 2018 (UTC)reply
I disagree, the name is the only connection that is needed for this article. It acts as a disambiguation page for characters named Black Widow that are published by Marvel Comics. It points readers to the specific character article that they might be searching for and it doesn’t imply that there are any connections that are not there. The character overviews are nessecary to distinguish each character from each other and helping unfamiliar readers make a more informed choice. It does not and is not meant to tie these characters together from an
in-universe perspective.—
TriiipleThreat (
talk)
12:03, 22 November 2018 (UTC)reply
There is already a disambiguation for the things called
Black widow, this is a set index because they also share the characteristic that they are all comic book characters published by Marvel Comics.—17:38, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
Fine then. I still would prefer a redirection because (like you said) it’s “not much an article”. Also I don’t feel like my statement mean to sound like I prefer in-universe. Because I don’t. I already know of that guideline and I prefer real world info.
Jhenderson77721:33, 22 November 2018 (UTC)reply