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I've just merged in the 'Planet Nemesis' article, as that template stood for a month without argument. With two articles so short, it seemed sort of self-evident.
So! I think we should also bring in Death Phantom, as per the Villains recommendation at WikiProject Sailor Moon. And I'd like to lump the remaining Clan members into a separate article, the way Dark Kingdom is separate from Shitennou. I don't know what to call it, though. Black Moon Clan members? They're too short to quite be on their own, but too long to quite add to this one, which will hopefully end up with more detail about the Clan, including the Phantom, their various motives, what kind of Monsters they employ, anime/manga differences, etc. Any thoughts? -- Masamage 22:11, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
The source for the "green" and so on.. is there one, because in the manga I can't find a mention of it...if it's a fan term it has to be killed ruthlessly.-- Hitsuji Kinno 19:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
They are off by a long, long shot. It looks like someone took a guess in the dark with no knowledge of Japanese. >.<;; I'm taking it from the Materials Collection and doing a clean up. (I read Japanese...) Wise Man. should I add that one too?-- Hitsuji Kinno 18:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
This article is deceptive in that it seems to cover the manga with the pictures, but in actuality, it's about the anime. Plus the incarnations thing about Chaos comes from manga only. -- Hitsuji Kinno 18:26, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
For the life of me, I can't find the kanji the Material's Collection uses for midori. The only way I have of obtaining kanji is by looking stuff up in the online J-E dictionary and copy-pasting, but I couldn't find anything that exactly matched the one in the book. Any help? -- Masamage 01:04, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
i think it should be mention about death phantoms santy in the anime at least (i havnt read the manga so i dont no) when hes wiseman he speaks in third purson for no resion like when no ones around or to black lady whos under his mind control and Saphir only learns about the death phantom because hes talking to him self and his plan to distroy earth in the past as revenge for what happend in the futer is flawed if he blows up the earth he wont be born and if hes born he cant distroy earth its a big time paradox Sailor cuteness 16:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Should this page have info on the Boule Brothers (Chiral & Achiral)? They are technically Black Moon Clan members, after all. Paul E Nolan 14:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
went they just droids? or where they "real" sailor cuteness-ready for love 14:08, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
i think she sayed in the bath to safire that she had two droids on the mission-- sailor cuteness-ready for love 12:33, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I've added a section on them (it's not brilliant, but it'll do for a start) Paul E Nolan 21:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
What is our basis for using these particular transliterations of the names? I think Rubeus and Esmeraude are pretty clear, but I'm not sure why Sefiiru equals Saphir or Demando equals Demande. Couldn't it be Sephir and Demand? For that matter, are these names references to something other than the gemstones? What are the most common spellings? -- Masamage 19:31, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Demand looks more like well Demand than Diamond which is what he is named for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.214.92 ( talk • contribs)
In the musical, Demand fell(looking rather dead) after fighting Death Phantom then talked to Saphir's voice(posiply havng a flash back of when he was with Saphir when they were younger(what they were saying sounded a lot like the scene in the anime(I forgot the episdoe number)) Eternal Sailor Moon said that he and the rest of the Black Moon clan could stay on Earth, Demando refuses and says that he had forgoten the dream and relied on the Black Crystal instead and that he will create true flowers on Nemisis then walked into the Door of Space Time. This happened in both the first Tanjou! Ankoku no Princess Black Lady and it's revision. I'd advise the people who write the Musical information to watch the musical that they are talking about. Yayamaya 10:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Black Moon says that in mythology that the black Moon was a sign of the apocalypse in Japanese mythology. I think this would be interesting to add... if we could find a source outside of wiki.-- Hitsuji Kinno ( talk) 07:35, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Should we mention Wiseman's interaction with Galaxia here or just keep it all at her page? I'm not sure how much they actully interacted... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.217.34 ( talk) 15:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
This article probably has too many images in it, too. :T Maybe we can reduce down to these:
We can remove these:
...because the first two are already in use at Ayakashi Sisters and Chibiusa, and the third doesn't even have bodies. You can just say "long pale hair, black crescents, different skin tones" and communicate the same thing.
That's what I thinks. -- Masamage ♫ 01:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Just so everyone remains clear on this, the reason for settling on the spelling of "Demand" is that it's totally unknowable exactly how this name was intended to be written. The Japanese transcription is demando, so we've just taken the closest thing to that. -- Masamage ♫ 21:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I have proposed merging the Ayakashi Sisters article into this one. If we trimmed out all the excessive plot info from both, they would both be fairly short and heavily dependent on each other, and so would be much better together. For the time being it would be sort of a subsidiary character list--once the full list is up and running we can reevaluate this. -- Masamage ♫ 21:09, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
When we merge these articles, I think we can replace all the images in both with the square area of this drawing that includes every member of the Black Moon Clan: Wiseman, the four siblings, the Ayakashi Sisters, and the four random other people. This way we can pictur everyone and avoid copyright infringement!
So if no one protests, I'll bring that picture in and toss out the overload of other ones at the same time I do the merge. -- Masamage ♫ 18:02, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
In anime wiseman seems to have a multpul pursnalaty he openly talks about his "master" death phantom and shapir over herd him and wiseman/death phantom was supised he was there meaning he had no reasion to talk openly about his plans or hide his identy he might think death phantoms someone else —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.231.103 ( talk) 18:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
the one where shapir dies —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.7.42.248 ( talk) 00:48, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
"In the English version of the anime, he is just called "The Wiseman" and is said to serve the Doom Phantom, a dangerous being who supposedly created the universe and now wishes to destroy the world he created through the Wiseman." I didnt think the dub would imply he is god they removed the scene where the Senshi are on crusfix so why would they make up a religious theme if they removed any that where in it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.29.124 ( talk) 12:09, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
also wisman said in dub that he is the doom phantom "I am the doom phantom and I will vaporise you!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.29.124 ( talk) 13:56, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't think that sentence says anything about god? I'm not sure what you're getting at. -- Masamage ♫ 17:35, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
"who supposedly created the universe" that sounds like the dub made him god because in most religion god made the universe and this quote "is just called "The Wiseman" and is said to serve the Doom Phantom" I was trying to say that Wiseman said point blank in dub that he is the Doom Phantom meaning hes not working for him he is him like in all versions —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.29.124 ( talk) 23:26, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
should the article be changed then? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.222.62 ( talk) 23:03, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
he isnt all that u saying he be!!!!!! —Preceding
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I've just merged in the 'Planet Nemesis' article, as that template stood for a month without argument. With two articles so short, it seemed sort of self-evident.
So! I think we should also bring in Death Phantom, as per the Villains recommendation at WikiProject Sailor Moon. And I'd like to lump the remaining Clan members into a separate article, the way Dark Kingdom is separate from Shitennou. I don't know what to call it, though. Black Moon Clan members? They're too short to quite be on their own, but too long to quite add to this one, which will hopefully end up with more detail about the Clan, including the Phantom, their various motives, what kind of Monsters they employ, anime/manga differences, etc. Any thoughts? -- Masamage 22:11, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
The source for the "green" and so on.. is there one, because in the manga I can't find a mention of it...if it's a fan term it has to be killed ruthlessly.-- Hitsuji Kinno 19:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
They are off by a long, long shot. It looks like someone took a guess in the dark with no knowledge of Japanese. >.<;; I'm taking it from the Materials Collection and doing a clean up. (I read Japanese...) Wise Man. should I add that one too?-- Hitsuji Kinno 18:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
This article is deceptive in that it seems to cover the manga with the pictures, but in actuality, it's about the anime. Plus the incarnations thing about Chaos comes from manga only. -- Hitsuji Kinno 18:26, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
For the life of me, I can't find the kanji the Material's Collection uses for midori. The only way I have of obtaining kanji is by looking stuff up in the online J-E dictionary and copy-pasting, but I couldn't find anything that exactly matched the one in the book. Any help? -- Masamage 01:04, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
i think it should be mention about death phantoms santy in the anime at least (i havnt read the manga so i dont no) when hes wiseman he speaks in third purson for no resion like when no ones around or to black lady whos under his mind control and Saphir only learns about the death phantom because hes talking to him self and his plan to distroy earth in the past as revenge for what happend in the futer is flawed if he blows up the earth he wont be born and if hes born he cant distroy earth its a big time paradox Sailor cuteness 16:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Should this page have info on the Boule Brothers (Chiral & Achiral)? They are technically Black Moon Clan members, after all. Paul E Nolan 14:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
went they just droids? or where they "real" sailor cuteness-ready for love 14:08, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
i think she sayed in the bath to safire that she had two droids on the mission-- sailor cuteness-ready for love 12:33, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I've added a section on them (it's not brilliant, but it'll do for a start) Paul E Nolan 21:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
What is our basis for using these particular transliterations of the names? I think Rubeus and Esmeraude are pretty clear, but I'm not sure why Sefiiru equals Saphir or Demando equals Demande. Couldn't it be Sephir and Demand? For that matter, are these names references to something other than the gemstones? What are the most common spellings? -- Masamage 19:31, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Demand looks more like well Demand than Diamond which is what he is named for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.214.92 ( talk • contribs)
In the musical, Demand fell(looking rather dead) after fighting Death Phantom then talked to Saphir's voice(posiply havng a flash back of when he was with Saphir when they were younger(what they were saying sounded a lot like the scene in the anime(I forgot the episdoe number)) Eternal Sailor Moon said that he and the rest of the Black Moon clan could stay on Earth, Demando refuses and says that he had forgoten the dream and relied on the Black Crystal instead and that he will create true flowers on Nemisis then walked into the Door of Space Time. This happened in both the first Tanjou! Ankoku no Princess Black Lady and it's revision. I'd advise the people who write the Musical information to watch the musical that they are talking about. Yayamaya 10:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Black Moon says that in mythology that the black Moon was a sign of the apocalypse in Japanese mythology. I think this would be interesting to add... if we could find a source outside of wiki.-- Hitsuji Kinno ( talk) 07:35, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Should we mention Wiseman's interaction with Galaxia here or just keep it all at her page? I'm not sure how much they actully interacted... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.217.34 ( talk) 15:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
This article probably has too many images in it, too. :T Maybe we can reduce down to these:
We can remove these:
...because the first two are already in use at Ayakashi Sisters and Chibiusa, and the third doesn't even have bodies. You can just say "long pale hair, black crescents, different skin tones" and communicate the same thing.
That's what I thinks. -- Masamage ♫ 01:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Just so everyone remains clear on this, the reason for settling on the spelling of "Demand" is that it's totally unknowable exactly how this name was intended to be written. The Japanese transcription is demando, so we've just taken the closest thing to that. -- Masamage ♫ 21:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I have proposed merging the Ayakashi Sisters article into this one. If we trimmed out all the excessive plot info from both, they would both be fairly short and heavily dependent on each other, and so would be much better together. For the time being it would be sort of a subsidiary character list--once the full list is up and running we can reevaluate this. -- Masamage ♫ 21:09, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
When we merge these articles, I think we can replace all the images in both with the square area of this drawing that includes every member of the Black Moon Clan: Wiseman, the four siblings, the Ayakashi Sisters, and the four random other people. This way we can pictur everyone and avoid copyright infringement!
So if no one protests, I'll bring that picture in and toss out the overload of other ones at the same time I do the merge. -- Masamage ♫ 18:02, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
In anime wiseman seems to have a multpul pursnalaty he openly talks about his "master" death phantom and shapir over herd him and wiseman/death phantom was supised he was there meaning he had no reasion to talk openly about his plans or hide his identy he might think death phantoms someone else —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.231.103 ( talk) 18:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
the one where shapir dies —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.7.42.248 ( talk) 00:48, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
"In the English version of the anime, he is just called "The Wiseman" and is said to serve the Doom Phantom, a dangerous being who supposedly created the universe and now wishes to destroy the world he created through the Wiseman." I didnt think the dub would imply he is god they removed the scene where the Senshi are on crusfix so why would they make up a religious theme if they removed any that where in it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.29.124 ( talk) 12:09, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
also wisman said in dub that he is the doom phantom "I am the doom phantom and I will vaporise you!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.29.124 ( talk) 13:56, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't think that sentence says anything about god? I'm not sure what you're getting at. -- Masamage ♫ 17:35, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
"who supposedly created the universe" that sounds like the dub made him god because in most religion god made the universe and this quote "is just called "The Wiseman" and is said to serve the Doom Phantom" I was trying to say that Wiseman said point blank in dub that he is the Doom Phantom meaning hes not working for him he is him like in all versions —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.29.124 ( talk) 23:26, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
should the article be changed then? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.222.62 ( talk) 23:03, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
he isnt all that u saying he be!!!!!! —Preceding
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