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On 18 March 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Black Europeans of African ancestry to Black Europeans. The result of the discussion was moved. |
I have been trying to trace the source of the numbers in the "Demographics" table, which have been copied back and forth between various articles in French and English Wikipedia. The best sourcing appears to be in the English Wikipedia article, here: /info/en/?search=African_immigration_to_Europe#Demographics. Someone could implement those sources here. (the data is not the same, as this article is about people with longer descent than new immigrants or children of immigrants, but the sourcing is at least present there) - the numbers here are smaller and have no sourcing at all. 157.139.21.63 ( talk) 21:26, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
For this article, I have added some information from Johny Pitts. He is an Afropean that has written a book on the topic as well as done a plethora of interviews on the topic in order to educate people who may not be as well educated on this topic. He has dedicated a large portion of his life to help educate others about the topic of Africans in Europe. 130.74.162.101 ( talk) 15:18, 12 April 2021 (UTC)Mary
I looked into the edit warring over 290,00 and 300,000 Black Europeans of African descent in Spain and discovered that the supposed source said nothing of the kind. Instead it states that there are 1,322,625 African-born in Spain. Nothing about Black, and nothing about any of African descent but not born in Africa. I have included this number with an explanatory note. Meters ( talk) 18:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Spain ~300,000 Blacks
~300,000 Blacks Berkecuku ( talk) 11:01, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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2A02:A44D:B3A6:1:DD5:E00D:80C5:E2B1 ( talk) 01:43, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
I don't know how this work so who knows if someone will see this but in this article some is calling European countries "states". UE is not a country with states like USA, it's a Union of countries…
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The United Kingdom has approximately 3.2 million black people, inclusive of mixed race, according to the 2021 Census. 2A00:23C5:EF47:2701:8DBE:4204:8724:650C ( talk) 10:24, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
I would like to know how accurate the data is pertaining to Denmark. So I would like to know, does the data include for example African or Black Americans who migrate to Europe in the data? And if so, where is that data found? 80.71.142.201 ( talk) 07:20, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
User:Meters @ Meters What is the issue with my edit? The next section says "In the European Union (EU) as of 2019, there is a record of approximately 9.6 million people of Sub-Saharan African or Afro-Caribbean descent". So there are Black Europeans of Caribbean ancestry and the article speaks about it. I included the link within "Caribbean" of my edit to link to the Afro-Caribbean page. There is a very large number of Black Europeans of Caribbean ancestry in the UK, France and the Netherlands, and they don't really identify with Africa in any way. Freee Contributor ( talk) 19:49, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus – robertsky ( talk) 14:32, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Black Europeans of African ancestry → Black Europeans – Because Black Europeans of Caribbean Ancestry are not the same as Black Europeans of African ancestry. Moreover, the only photo used is of a Caribbean celebration and the data includes both Black Europeans of African ancestry and Black Europeans of Caribbean Ancestry. Plus, it's not inclusive of Black Europeans of Black American/Brazilian/Colombian etc. descent. Moreover, there are no other articles for Black European to redirect to, so it is not a concise title as per WP:CONCISE. Plus, Black Europeans would be precise as there is no disambiguation (as per Wikipedia:PRECISION) since the article references Black Europeans of Caribbean Ancestry. Freee Contributor ( talk) 21:44, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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On 18 March 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Black Europeans of African ancestry to Black Europeans. The result of the discussion was moved. |
I have been trying to trace the source of the numbers in the "Demographics" table, which have been copied back and forth between various articles in French and English Wikipedia. The best sourcing appears to be in the English Wikipedia article, here: /info/en/?search=African_immigration_to_Europe#Demographics. Someone could implement those sources here. (the data is not the same, as this article is about people with longer descent than new immigrants or children of immigrants, but the sourcing is at least present there) - the numbers here are smaller and have no sourcing at all. 157.139.21.63 ( talk) 21:26, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
For this article, I have added some information from Johny Pitts. He is an Afropean that has written a book on the topic as well as done a plethora of interviews on the topic in order to educate people who may not be as well educated on this topic. He has dedicated a large portion of his life to help educate others about the topic of Africans in Europe. 130.74.162.101 ( talk) 15:18, 12 April 2021 (UTC)Mary
I looked into the edit warring over 290,00 and 300,000 Black Europeans of African descent in Spain and discovered that the supposed source said nothing of the kind. Instead it states that there are 1,322,625 African-born in Spain. Nothing about Black, and nothing about any of African descent but not born in Africa. I have included this number with an explanatory note. Meters ( talk) 18:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Berkecuku ( talk) 11:01, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Spain ~300,000 Blacks
~300,000 Blacks Berkecuku ( talk) 11:01, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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Black Europeans of African ancestry has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
2A02:A44D:B3A6:1:DD5:E00D:80C5:E2B1 ( talk) 01:43, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
I don't know how this work so who knows if someone will see this but in this article some is calling European countries "states". UE is not a country with states like USA, it's a Union of countries…
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edit request to
Black Europeans of African ancestry has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The United Kingdom has approximately 3.2 million black people, inclusive of mixed race, according to the 2021 Census. 2A00:23C5:EF47:2701:8DBE:4204:8724:650C ( talk) 10:24, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
I would like to know how accurate the data is pertaining to Denmark. So I would like to know, does the data include for example African or Black Americans who migrate to Europe in the data? And if so, where is that data found? 80.71.142.201 ( talk) 07:20, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
User:Meters @ Meters What is the issue with my edit? The next section says "In the European Union (EU) as of 2019, there is a record of approximately 9.6 million people of Sub-Saharan African or Afro-Caribbean descent". So there are Black Europeans of Caribbean ancestry and the article speaks about it. I included the link within "Caribbean" of my edit to link to the Afro-Caribbean page. There is a very large number of Black Europeans of Caribbean ancestry in the UK, France and the Netherlands, and they don't really identify with Africa in any way. Freee Contributor ( talk) 19:49, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus – robertsky ( talk) 14:32, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Black Europeans of African ancestry → Black Europeans – Because Black Europeans of Caribbean Ancestry are not the same as Black Europeans of African ancestry. Moreover, the only photo used is of a Caribbean celebration and the data includes both Black Europeans of African ancestry and Black Europeans of Caribbean Ancestry. Plus, it's not inclusive of Black Europeans of Black American/Brazilian/Colombian etc. descent. Moreover, there are no other articles for Black European to redirect to, so it is not a concise title as per WP:CONCISE. Plus, Black Europeans would be precise as there is no disambiguation (as per Wikipedia:PRECISION) since the article references Black Europeans of Caribbean Ancestry. Freee Contributor ( talk) 21:44, 18 March 2024 (UTC)