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Why isn't Selmasongs listed with all the other albums, especially when Drawing Restaint 9 is listed?
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The goal at this point is not to include every single bit of information from the original article. Doing so could be extraordinarily difficult, which is probably the reason the article is in the state it's in now. My intentions at this moment are:
Since Björk is primarily known as a musician, her musical career should perhaps be of predominating priority in the article. A great many details from her personal life (relationships, marriage, having kids, etc.) are present in the current article, and I would really like to keep these, provided they can be worked into the context of her musical career somehow.
And of course, this is Wiki! I hope I'm not doing this alone, and I would graciously welcome all comments, criticisms, contributions, and collaborations. -- Wapcaplet 02:39 4 Jun 2003 (UTC)
From the article:
Credits: (Hans Lang/Bert Reisfeld). Google asays: "It's oh so quiet" was written by Hans Lang and Bert Reisfeld and performed by Betty Hutton during the 40s"
Is it true that Bjork released her first album in 1977 after recording it in 1976? because I never heard of that album. I never took band until like around 1982 when I was 14 or 1983 when I was 15. -- Micahel
http://www.aprilwinchell.com/multimedia/ (Hope this is allowed for information purposes...)
Úrnat being a papu-ish word for holiday - what is papu-ish?
I did some massive trimming of this vast article, but it still needs considerable work. In particular, the discography is confusing -- are all of those albums? And they need disambiguation. -- Zoe
Found a good reference for an overview of her career: http://entertainment.msn.com/Artist/?artist=107009
I've been using HTML character entity references for the Icelandic characters. I don't know what the standard is on Wiki for this, but in HTML it's generally considered better to use ö, í and the like. If other contributors prefer to just type the characters in directly (as the old article does), I will not be offended, but I may go in and convert them to HTML character entity references just for the sake of correctness and cross-platform compatibility. (presumably, if someone does not have those characters available in their font set, it ends up rendering as garbage; using the HTML entities at least causes them to degrade gracefully in the absence of the proper fonts). -- Wapcaplet 12:35 28 May 2003 (UTC)
First of all I?m writing to tell you that you?re making a big mistake if you?re thinking of changing the Icelandic characters by others.
I understand that it would be hard for somebody to find an article that contains accents and characters like ð, Þ, æ etc. Now, if we have a link which contains some of the above characters it would be desiderable to create an additional page with understandable characters, for instance: if you want to create a new page for Tappi Tíkarras? album Bítið Fast Í Vítið, you could do it both, with these characters and then another version like this: Bítidh Fast Í Vítidh. This is because the ð (Đ capitol) is usually replaced by dh. Some people think they can replace it using th, but in fact that?s a big mistake because th replaces the Þ. Besides some people (even books) get confussed with the Þ and tend to convert it into a P, but that?s outrageous in Icelandic language like changing the j ny using i (it changes the whole meaning).
On the other hand, we have words that are have more than one accent (very common in Icelandic). I think all characters should be kept the way they?re, and make some additional versions for the links containing those weird characters; after all, if you try to find information about Björk on the Internet you could find it both: ?Björk? and ?Bjork?.
About the term papu-ish used for the word ?Úrnat?. I looked it up everywhere I could but it was unsuccesful, I took it from Björk?s site (discography section). Finally, I would like to comment that the albums should be revised, because you can?t tell which one is an album and which one a single, but someone must have thought they were all the same. I consider that we should differenciate them by using lines starting with a star for the albums and two stars for the singles or try to create a new page named Björk discography. We could also add lyrics.
I?ll be working on this article and I will check the Icelandic characters since I have already found lots of spelling mistakes. Let me know if you?re interested in more information. I have lyrics traslations from Icelandic to English. Lmb 20:02 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Why was this article moved to Björk Guðmundsdóttir? I don't think that's quite in line with our naming conventions of keeping article titles simple and familiar to most English speakers. Very few English-speakers know, or would even recognize, Björk's last name. Simply Björk is the more popular name, as well as her performing name, and is hardly ambiguous. The new title is also definitely in conflict with the restrictions on using only ISO 8859-1 characters in article titles. -- Wapcaplet 05:01, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
It's been moved back. RickK 05:06, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I removed
I removed the image of Bjork. I found it's on her official site http://unit.bjork.com/specials/pics/frame.htm (2nd row from the bottom, third pic from the left, in the section colour photos)
And here http://www.bjork.com/about/ the site says:
Copyright © 1997-2003 by Björk Overseas Ltd. All rights reserved. Copyright ©1995-2003, The Ultimate Intimate Webteam, All Rights Reserved. Unless otherwise indicated, all materials on these pages are copyrighted by the Björk Overseas Ltd. All rights reserved. No part of these pages, either text, audio, video or image may be used for any purpose other than personal use. Therefore, reproduction, modification, storage in a retrieval system or retransmission, in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, or otherwise, for reasons other than personal use, is strictly prohibited without prior written permission.
Messages posted to some areas of the bjork.community site are not private. If you post a message, anyone with access to the message area can read it, and your e-mail address can become available to anyone who browses or uses the message area. Please keep in mind that bjork.community cannot control who sends you e-mail as a result of postings to this service.
Pity, the pic is really great.
I removed the second picture of Björk that replaced the one above. It came from the same source; no reason why this one should be allowed when the other was not. It may or may not be fair use, but the way the copyright is worded makes me want to err on the side of caution. -- Wapcaplet 20:29, 2 May 2004 (UTC)
I have to say that as we are working on Wikipedia we're all prone to face problems related to the copyright laws and fair use criteria, but I'm affraid it's wrong not to have an image of the singer.
The first image (I took it from the same place) was copyrighted, but Lunargirl (responsible for the official page) told me that there wouldn't be any trouble if we put it. In fact I asked her to check out the article and related works about Björk's albums and she said "no problem".
What use can we give to these images? I'm not trying to sell anything here, but to enhance the content.
Kind regards, Lmb 13:05, 8 May 2004 (UTC).
Hi
So far as the use of images is concerned I faced little problems. I got so enthusiastic when I started writing that I left the description pages empty, so there might be cases in which images have been deleted due to the uncertainty of their origin. That’s why I’m now working on them and asking copyright-holders and everybody responsible to see them.
I believe images are an integral part for the design of articles and to provide visual information. I’m not versed in the copyright laws either, but I consider that in spite of having the fair use criteria we all might be lying and thus you could say “I have authorization to use this image”, while it’s all false. Therefore I keep a critical point of view regarding Wikipedia’s rules. It should have been stated from the get go that Wikipedia is not responsible for showing images. You must be aware that other sites (formal and informal ones) make use of pics that clearly infringe copyright laws.
And what about CDs covers? They’re copyrighted images as well.
I will keep doing the same in the Spanish version. I’m sorry Wapcaplet I can’t help you here too much, but I hope someday I’ll be able to pass all my works here and complete what’s missing. I’m finishing Björk’s biography with more information. The English one lacks making reference to the crazy fan who tried to kill her with an acid-bomb and the Icelandic Primer Minister gave her a little island due to her contributions for the country’s culture. I don’t know the name of the island and I couldn’t tell when that happened.
Even though too personal and spurious details should be avoided I think that in a complete biography you all should name that she has two children: Sindri in 1986 with Thor Eldon (guitarrist of The Suagarcubes) and Isidora in 2002 with Matthew Barney (a video-maker).
About the idea of saying that Björk is pronounced “Bjerk” I consider that at least we should add in the end of the article the following: ”Note: This article has Icelandic characters. For more information see: Icelandic language.” And there somebody who happens to be an Icelander might kindly contribute and teach us what she or he knows. I asked others because I think there’s more to say about that article and I wouldn’t be able to complete it but nobody answered. Kind regards, Lmb 22:19, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
The section about the swan dress is just begging for a picture. Would this be a situation that would fall under fair use? We're already commenting on it, and it would be very helpful in demonstrating what the whole fuss was about. Pimlottc 10:08, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey people, why does the spanish version of this page have so much more information about Bjork's works (such as DVD, VHS plus collaboration info) PLUS links to articles (that are actually written!) to virtually all of the work she's done. It seems the Spanish fans are way ahead here. What's up with that? Swidly 06:44, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I've never heard she was bipolar before. Is this a well-known fact? What's the source on that piece of info?
... if this is just fan speculation, and not a fact, then it should be deleted, imho. swidly 06:42, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Does anyone else think it's stupid to have the whole part about MTV2, Janet Jackson, etc.? It's nice to reference the music videos and their uniqueness, but why drag all of that unrelated garbage in? And why only the Medulla videos when she has a dozen or more previous ones that are unmentioned? Maybe we could make a videography section, with links to directors.
I'm a bit confused about this sentence: "MTV2, played the album's first video, "Hidden Place", pretty heavily, despite its somewhat controversial lyrics and imagery." the entire video consists of a repeated image of her face and computer graphics flowing from her eyes, nostrils, and mouth. i hardly consider that erotic. i remember seeing the video on all music channels infrequently, but was never aware that watching incandescent fluid travelling across someone's face being "contraversial." and as far as the lyrics go, after reading the lyrics in the liner notes from VESPERTINE, i fail to see the lyrics that could be contrued as "contraversial." could someone either explain that statement, or correct it?
I think they are actually talking about "Pagan Poetry" which had some nudity, graphic piercing sequences, and, supposedly, sex scenes that are shrouded in the abstract computer imagery swidly 01:45, September 7, 2005 (UTC)
That's true about Pagan Poetry. The more abstract scenes are apparently rendered videos she shot with a handicam of her with her partner in bed. somewildthingsgo 23:58, 9 November 2005
Taken from the Matthew Barney page: "He and Björk have a daughter, Isadora, who was born in 2002." Is this a true statement? Should it appear in Björk? Dbenbenn 15:13, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
if we include that in the article, it would be odd to not also include Sindri somewhere swidly 05:44, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
OK, the intro has been expanded to include a list of music genres/traditions that Bjork incorporates into her music. It leaves out two major ones that seem to influence her the most (besides pop): electronic and the avant garde. These two seem more relevant to me than torch songs, hip hop, etc. I would add them but then we'd basically have just a list of all the major music styles, and that is not useful information either. We could rewrite the intro or something, any suggestions?
Where is the info on that? - The attack *is* a worthwhile topic, at least to mention in passing, since it's going to draw wiki searchers for info on the event.
there isnt much to say is there? she attacked a journalist(the end) --though maybe a site may be included in the end to show the video(but that would just put her in a bad light now wont it?? :P
In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:10, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the links. It’s not really a matter of feeling uncomfortable or not. I never hesitated of the importance of this category under that point of view. The gay icon category caught my attention because I never thought it existed and certainly I don’t see its usefulness. So, I thought: there are other musical genres like hip-hop where you could as well say those artists are “Racial icons”, due to the fact that they are mostly followed and boosted by Afro-Americans. Then I asked myself: who are homosexuals, Afro-Americans, lesbians, intelligent or narrow-minded people? There are no differences: They are all just like me, like you, and I don’t think that particular minority groups should be treated as something apart from the rest of the “ordinary fellows”. Couldn’t it be possible that others use this category as a tool of discrimination?
I’ve never paid attention to whether artists claimed to be either against or in favor of a particular group, but in case they do, I don’t see how that makes the person an “XXX icon”. About Cher, it happens the same: I don’t know…. Perhaps those celebrities who are frequently referred as “divas” might be seen as icons by some groups.
This is like when I discovered that some people said that Björk had a bipolar disorder. Okay I know what that is, but: Who makes the diagnosis? Could it be possible that some people think so due to the fact that she attacked a Tai journalist by 1996? Again, I’m not sure about the procedure to label a person as such.
If you think the gay icon category should be reestablished again, it’s okay with me: I believe all information and accurate data is always welcomed. Regards, Luis María Benítez 22:09, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I put a complete discography organized according to the groups Björk was part of. I also included collaboration and featuring releases because that’s how it should be presented. I wrote the Spanish version and this discography was taken from that article. Notice that this discography has some differences if compared to other discographies, even the official discography provided at her site.
Some people get confuse when adding collaborations and locate the releases according to their date of release. Thus, there are several releases which are said to be collaborations of The Sugarcubes and that’s simple not true, since Björk was the only one to be present there (there are several examples).
Notice that in the case of collaborations I put a small description so that you know what’s all about without having to see the article. Singles were also included and organized, and their presence is important thanks to the collaborations of other renown artists.
It was a mistake to put Gling-Gló as one of her solo career, because that album had the credits of Björk Guðmundsdóttir & Tríó Guðmundar Ingólfssonar (a group that was dissolved after the pianist’s death).
The Elgar Sisters was also very important and their discography was later in other releases.
I will write about all of these releases. One by one. Luis María Benítez 23:25, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Why was this line removed -- "Madonna had sought an entire album's worth of material from Björk" - ? It seems appropriate in the context... Anyone? Anyone? swidly 07:04, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Can one translate the English article about Björk in full to his native language version of Wikipedia, or is the material strictly copyrighted?
Why doesn't this article cover some of the bad press that Bjork has received (the biggest of these being the mail-bomb stalker who committed suicide, also the attack on the reporter). If this is an encyclopedic article on Bjork it should include all major events in her career. I'm a fan of Bjork's but I came here looking for information about the stalker. Jeff schiller 18:29, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
i dont :P
Nowhere in the original article does it mention that Bjork rhymes with "work" rather than "pork", the latter being the way most seem to pronounce her name -- incorrectly. That should be right at the top, following the Icelandic characters for her name.
I'm tempted to remove this comment from the first para ("She is also considered to be the only true celebrity from Iceland.") - sounds like someone's opinion to me, and I'm not convinced that it's correct. Magnus Magnusson is certainly famous here in the UK... Anyone have an opinion? CLW 22:55, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
so Sigur Rós aren't famous?
I added a link to Sindri's dad, which seemed to be missing (since her daughter's father is mentioned). However, it's my understanding that he was in KUKL -- but the wikipedia has completely opposite information. So I have not tampered with that. -- Gryn 06:39, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
This is a SOUNDTRACK and no regular album. I'd suggest to separate Drawing Restraint 9 from the Albums list. For me, the latest "regular" album from her is still Medúlla from 2004. Over & out. -andy 80.129.101.170 17:26, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Or did an editor here just give a fairly .. uh .. dingy example from his own vocabulary? No kidding this is IMPORTANT - otherwise I will change it into something less unsavory like "rhymes with the US pronunciation of 'clerk'". -andy 80.129.101.170 17:41, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
The last sentence in the 8th paragraph under "Popularity" doesn't seem to have a purpose. It is also unprovable due to its ambiguity. No American airplay via major networks? Via any cable-on-demand provider? Via satellite? And why mention only America? Did it receive play in other major markets such as Australia, Japan or South America? How about India which has gained a significant pop audience? It reads like a shot at the US and doesn't seem to have a place in the article. 68.83.217.79 05:00, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
I added a few things that had been requested about the two negative incidents in 1996. All the info should be very easy to verify, both videos are available online and this was all covered very extensively by the media at the time - especially in my native Iceland. I also added a bit of info about her son's new band (he's a bass player now) and the fact that her father was famous in Iceland before anyone knew who she was.
The old picture was way better. See if you can try and get it back.
Does anyone know what Bjork's voice is classified as? Also, I think that there should be a section on her voice since it is so recognizable. Courier new 00:47, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, this image is a suspected copyright violation and may soon be deleted from the Commons:. If you want to keep it, please consider uploading the image locally. Thank you. pfctdayelise 07:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Leave the picture alone -- honestly. Courier new 02:58, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it's colorful and pretty. But we can't actually see what Bjork looks like, which is the only reason to have a picture of her anyway. I wouldn't know where to begin searching. So consider this an open request: please, someone, find us a nice, copyright-free image where we can actually see Bjork! Kasreyn 04:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Example here [1] ... it's one of the best-known bits of gossip about her (at least pre-swan), but it seems to be untrue. I don't know if it's been in the article before and been removed, so I'll just put it here for someone to digest. -- Dhartung | Talk 18:41, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Yes it is true. I say this on the Spanish verion of this article. The Prime Miniters granted the island Elliðaey because of Björk's contriobutions to Icelandic culture and popularity. Apparently, there were some critics because she doesn't have a fiscal address (I could find out). Luis María Benítez 15:28, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
I am tempted to remove this section as there is already a comprehensive Bjork discography page. It seems rather pointless to have the same information listed in both places. Any thoughts? -- eo 15:31, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone solve this riddle? There's no way she's pure Nordic. 24.199.113.234 10:28, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
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Why isn't Selmasongs listed with all the other albums, especially when Drawing Restaint 9 is listed?
This article is in the process of major revision. A temporary page has been set up for revising the Björk article. It was at Bjork/Temp for a while, but now has been (properly) moved to Talk:Björk/Temp. Please make all edits to the temporary article, rather than the real article, until such time as it is ready to be moved back into the real article.
The goal at this point is not to include every single bit of information from the original article. Doing so could be extraordinarily difficult, which is probably the reason the article is in the state it's in now. My intentions at this moment are:
Since Björk is primarily known as a musician, her musical career should perhaps be of predominating priority in the article. A great many details from her personal life (relationships, marriage, having kids, etc.) are present in the current article, and I would really like to keep these, provided they can be worked into the context of her musical career somehow.
And of course, this is Wiki! I hope I'm not doing this alone, and I would graciously welcome all comments, criticisms, contributions, and collaborations. -- Wapcaplet 02:39 4 Jun 2003 (UTC)
From the article:
Credits: (Hans Lang/Bert Reisfeld). Google asays: "It's oh so quiet" was written by Hans Lang and Bert Reisfeld and performed by Betty Hutton during the 40s"
Is it true that Bjork released her first album in 1977 after recording it in 1976? because I never heard of that album. I never took band until like around 1982 when I was 14 or 1983 when I was 15. -- Micahel
http://www.aprilwinchell.com/multimedia/ (Hope this is allowed for information purposes...)
Úrnat being a papu-ish word for holiday - what is papu-ish?
I did some massive trimming of this vast article, but it still needs considerable work. In particular, the discography is confusing -- are all of those albums? And they need disambiguation. -- Zoe
Found a good reference for an overview of her career: http://entertainment.msn.com/Artist/?artist=107009
I've been using HTML character entity references for the Icelandic characters. I don't know what the standard is on Wiki for this, but in HTML it's generally considered better to use ö, í and the like. If other contributors prefer to just type the characters in directly (as the old article does), I will not be offended, but I may go in and convert them to HTML character entity references just for the sake of correctness and cross-platform compatibility. (presumably, if someone does not have those characters available in their font set, it ends up rendering as garbage; using the HTML entities at least causes them to degrade gracefully in the absence of the proper fonts). -- Wapcaplet 12:35 28 May 2003 (UTC)
First of all I?m writing to tell you that you?re making a big mistake if you?re thinking of changing the Icelandic characters by others.
I understand that it would be hard for somebody to find an article that contains accents and characters like ð, Þ, æ etc. Now, if we have a link which contains some of the above characters it would be desiderable to create an additional page with understandable characters, for instance: if you want to create a new page for Tappi Tíkarras? album Bítið Fast Í Vítið, you could do it both, with these characters and then another version like this: Bítidh Fast Í Vítidh. This is because the ð (Đ capitol) is usually replaced by dh. Some people think they can replace it using th, but in fact that?s a big mistake because th replaces the Þ. Besides some people (even books) get confussed with the Þ and tend to convert it into a P, but that?s outrageous in Icelandic language like changing the j ny using i (it changes the whole meaning).
On the other hand, we have words that are have more than one accent (very common in Icelandic). I think all characters should be kept the way they?re, and make some additional versions for the links containing those weird characters; after all, if you try to find information about Björk on the Internet you could find it both: ?Björk? and ?Bjork?.
About the term papu-ish used for the word ?Úrnat?. I looked it up everywhere I could but it was unsuccesful, I took it from Björk?s site (discography section). Finally, I would like to comment that the albums should be revised, because you can?t tell which one is an album and which one a single, but someone must have thought they were all the same. I consider that we should differenciate them by using lines starting with a star for the albums and two stars for the singles or try to create a new page named Björk discography. We could also add lyrics.
I?ll be working on this article and I will check the Icelandic characters since I have already found lots of spelling mistakes. Let me know if you?re interested in more information. I have lyrics traslations from Icelandic to English. Lmb 20:02 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Why was this article moved to Björk Guðmundsdóttir? I don't think that's quite in line with our naming conventions of keeping article titles simple and familiar to most English speakers. Very few English-speakers know, or would even recognize, Björk's last name. Simply Björk is the more popular name, as well as her performing name, and is hardly ambiguous. The new title is also definitely in conflict with the restrictions on using only ISO 8859-1 characters in article titles. -- Wapcaplet 05:01, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
It's been moved back. RickK 05:06, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I removed
I removed the image of Bjork. I found it's on her official site http://unit.bjork.com/specials/pics/frame.htm (2nd row from the bottom, third pic from the left, in the section colour photos)
And here http://www.bjork.com/about/ the site says:
Copyright © 1997-2003 by Björk Overseas Ltd. All rights reserved. Copyright ©1995-2003, The Ultimate Intimate Webteam, All Rights Reserved. Unless otherwise indicated, all materials on these pages are copyrighted by the Björk Overseas Ltd. All rights reserved. No part of these pages, either text, audio, video or image may be used for any purpose other than personal use. Therefore, reproduction, modification, storage in a retrieval system or retransmission, in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, or otherwise, for reasons other than personal use, is strictly prohibited without prior written permission.
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Pity, the pic is really great.
I removed the second picture of Björk that replaced the one above. It came from the same source; no reason why this one should be allowed when the other was not. It may or may not be fair use, but the way the copyright is worded makes me want to err on the side of caution. -- Wapcaplet 20:29, 2 May 2004 (UTC)
I have to say that as we are working on Wikipedia we're all prone to face problems related to the copyright laws and fair use criteria, but I'm affraid it's wrong not to have an image of the singer.
The first image (I took it from the same place) was copyrighted, but Lunargirl (responsible for the official page) told me that there wouldn't be any trouble if we put it. In fact I asked her to check out the article and related works about Björk's albums and she said "no problem".
What use can we give to these images? I'm not trying to sell anything here, but to enhance the content.
Kind regards, Lmb 13:05, 8 May 2004 (UTC).
Hi
So far as the use of images is concerned I faced little problems. I got so enthusiastic when I started writing that I left the description pages empty, so there might be cases in which images have been deleted due to the uncertainty of their origin. That’s why I’m now working on them and asking copyright-holders and everybody responsible to see them.
I believe images are an integral part for the design of articles and to provide visual information. I’m not versed in the copyright laws either, but I consider that in spite of having the fair use criteria we all might be lying and thus you could say “I have authorization to use this image”, while it’s all false. Therefore I keep a critical point of view regarding Wikipedia’s rules. It should have been stated from the get go that Wikipedia is not responsible for showing images. You must be aware that other sites (formal and informal ones) make use of pics that clearly infringe copyright laws.
And what about CDs covers? They’re copyrighted images as well.
I will keep doing the same in the Spanish version. I’m sorry Wapcaplet I can’t help you here too much, but I hope someday I’ll be able to pass all my works here and complete what’s missing. I’m finishing Björk’s biography with more information. The English one lacks making reference to the crazy fan who tried to kill her with an acid-bomb and the Icelandic Primer Minister gave her a little island due to her contributions for the country’s culture. I don’t know the name of the island and I couldn’t tell when that happened.
Even though too personal and spurious details should be avoided I think that in a complete biography you all should name that she has two children: Sindri in 1986 with Thor Eldon (guitarrist of The Suagarcubes) and Isidora in 2002 with Matthew Barney (a video-maker).
About the idea of saying that Björk is pronounced “Bjerk” I consider that at least we should add in the end of the article the following: ”Note: This article has Icelandic characters. For more information see: Icelandic language.” And there somebody who happens to be an Icelander might kindly contribute and teach us what she or he knows. I asked others because I think there’s more to say about that article and I wouldn’t be able to complete it but nobody answered. Kind regards, Lmb 22:19, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
The section about the swan dress is just begging for a picture. Would this be a situation that would fall under fair use? We're already commenting on it, and it would be very helpful in demonstrating what the whole fuss was about. Pimlottc 10:08, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey people, why does the spanish version of this page have so much more information about Bjork's works (such as DVD, VHS plus collaboration info) PLUS links to articles (that are actually written!) to virtually all of the work she's done. It seems the Spanish fans are way ahead here. What's up with that? Swidly 06:44, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I've never heard she was bipolar before. Is this a well-known fact? What's the source on that piece of info?
... if this is just fan speculation, and not a fact, then it should be deleted, imho. swidly 06:42, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Does anyone else think it's stupid to have the whole part about MTV2, Janet Jackson, etc.? It's nice to reference the music videos and their uniqueness, but why drag all of that unrelated garbage in? And why only the Medulla videos when she has a dozen or more previous ones that are unmentioned? Maybe we could make a videography section, with links to directors.
I'm a bit confused about this sentence: "MTV2, played the album's first video, "Hidden Place", pretty heavily, despite its somewhat controversial lyrics and imagery." the entire video consists of a repeated image of her face and computer graphics flowing from her eyes, nostrils, and mouth. i hardly consider that erotic. i remember seeing the video on all music channels infrequently, but was never aware that watching incandescent fluid travelling across someone's face being "contraversial." and as far as the lyrics go, after reading the lyrics in the liner notes from VESPERTINE, i fail to see the lyrics that could be contrued as "contraversial." could someone either explain that statement, or correct it?
I think they are actually talking about "Pagan Poetry" which had some nudity, graphic piercing sequences, and, supposedly, sex scenes that are shrouded in the abstract computer imagery swidly 01:45, September 7, 2005 (UTC)
That's true about Pagan Poetry. The more abstract scenes are apparently rendered videos she shot with a handicam of her with her partner in bed. somewildthingsgo 23:58, 9 November 2005
Taken from the Matthew Barney page: "He and Björk have a daughter, Isadora, who was born in 2002." Is this a true statement? Should it appear in Björk? Dbenbenn 15:13, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
if we include that in the article, it would be odd to not also include Sindri somewhere swidly 05:44, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
OK, the intro has been expanded to include a list of music genres/traditions that Bjork incorporates into her music. It leaves out two major ones that seem to influence her the most (besides pop): electronic and the avant garde. These two seem more relevant to me than torch songs, hip hop, etc. I would add them but then we'd basically have just a list of all the major music styles, and that is not useful information either. We could rewrite the intro or something, any suggestions?
Where is the info on that? - The attack *is* a worthwhile topic, at least to mention in passing, since it's going to draw wiki searchers for info on the event.
there isnt much to say is there? she attacked a journalist(the end) --though maybe a site may be included in the end to show the video(but that would just put her in a bad light now wont it?? :P
In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:10, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the links. It’s not really a matter of feeling uncomfortable or not. I never hesitated of the importance of this category under that point of view. The gay icon category caught my attention because I never thought it existed and certainly I don’t see its usefulness. So, I thought: there are other musical genres like hip-hop where you could as well say those artists are “Racial icons”, due to the fact that they are mostly followed and boosted by Afro-Americans. Then I asked myself: who are homosexuals, Afro-Americans, lesbians, intelligent or narrow-minded people? There are no differences: They are all just like me, like you, and I don’t think that particular minority groups should be treated as something apart from the rest of the “ordinary fellows”. Couldn’t it be possible that others use this category as a tool of discrimination?
I’ve never paid attention to whether artists claimed to be either against or in favor of a particular group, but in case they do, I don’t see how that makes the person an “XXX icon”. About Cher, it happens the same: I don’t know…. Perhaps those celebrities who are frequently referred as “divas” might be seen as icons by some groups.
This is like when I discovered that some people said that Björk had a bipolar disorder. Okay I know what that is, but: Who makes the diagnosis? Could it be possible that some people think so due to the fact that she attacked a Tai journalist by 1996? Again, I’m not sure about the procedure to label a person as such.
If you think the gay icon category should be reestablished again, it’s okay with me: I believe all information and accurate data is always welcomed. Regards, Luis María Benítez 22:09, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I put a complete discography organized according to the groups Björk was part of. I also included collaboration and featuring releases because that’s how it should be presented. I wrote the Spanish version and this discography was taken from that article. Notice that this discography has some differences if compared to other discographies, even the official discography provided at her site.
Some people get confuse when adding collaborations and locate the releases according to their date of release. Thus, there are several releases which are said to be collaborations of The Sugarcubes and that’s simple not true, since Björk was the only one to be present there (there are several examples).
Notice that in the case of collaborations I put a small description so that you know what’s all about without having to see the article. Singles were also included and organized, and their presence is important thanks to the collaborations of other renown artists.
It was a mistake to put Gling-Gló as one of her solo career, because that album had the credits of Björk Guðmundsdóttir & Tríó Guðmundar Ingólfssonar (a group that was dissolved after the pianist’s death).
The Elgar Sisters was also very important and their discography was later in other releases.
I will write about all of these releases. One by one. Luis María Benítez 23:25, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Why was this line removed -- "Madonna had sought an entire album's worth of material from Björk" - ? It seems appropriate in the context... Anyone? Anyone? swidly 07:04, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Can one translate the English article about Björk in full to his native language version of Wikipedia, or is the material strictly copyrighted?
Why doesn't this article cover some of the bad press that Bjork has received (the biggest of these being the mail-bomb stalker who committed suicide, also the attack on the reporter). If this is an encyclopedic article on Bjork it should include all major events in her career. I'm a fan of Bjork's but I came here looking for information about the stalker. Jeff schiller 18:29, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
i dont :P
Nowhere in the original article does it mention that Bjork rhymes with "work" rather than "pork", the latter being the way most seem to pronounce her name -- incorrectly. That should be right at the top, following the Icelandic characters for her name.
I'm tempted to remove this comment from the first para ("She is also considered to be the only true celebrity from Iceland.") - sounds like someone's opinion to me, and I'm not convinced that it's correct. Magnus Magnusson is certainly famous here in the UK... Anyone have an opinion? CLW 22:55, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
so Sigur Rós aren't famous?
I added a link to Sindri's dad, which seemed to be missing (since her daughter's father is mentioned). However, it's my understanding that he was in KUKL -- but the wikipedia has completely opposite information. So I have not tampered with that. -- Gryn 06:39, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
This is a SOUNDTRACK and no regular album. I'd suggest to separate Drawing Restraint 9 from the Albums list. For me, the latest "regular" album from her is still Medúlla from 2004. Over & out. -andy 80.129.101.170 17:26, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Or did an editor here just give a fairly .. uh .. dingy example from his own vocabulary? No kidding this is IMPORTANT - otherwise I will change it into something less unsavory like "rhymes with the US pronunciation of 'clerk'". -andy 80.129.101.170 17:41, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
The last sentence in the 8th paragraph under "Popularity" doesn't seem to have a purpose. It is also unprovable due to its ambiguity. No American airplay via major networks? Via any cable-on-demand provider? Via satellite? And why mention only America? Did it receive play in other major markets such as Australia, Japan or South America? How about India which has gained a significant pop audience? It reads like a shot at the US and doesn't seem to have a place in the article. 68.83.217.79 05:00, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
I added a few things that had been requested about the two negative incidents in 1996. All the info should be very easy to verify, both videos are available online and this was all covered very extensively by the media at the time - especially in my native Iceland. I also added a bit of info about her son's new band (he's a bass player now) and the fact that her father was famous in Iceland before anyone knew who she was.
The old picture was way better. See if you can try and get it back.
Does anyone know what Bjork's voice is classified as? Also, I think that there should be a section on her voice since it is so recognizable. Courier new 00:47, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, this image is a suspected copyright violation and may soon be deleted from the Commons:. If you want to keep it, please consider uploading the image locally. Thank you. pfctdayelise 07:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Leave the picture alone -- honestly. Courier new 02:58, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it's colorful and pretty. But we can't actually see what Bjork looks like, which is the only reason to have a picture of her anyway. I wouldn't know where to begin searching. So consider this an open request: please, someone, find us a nice, copyright-free image where we can actually see Bjork! Kasreyn 04:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Example here [1] ... it's one of the best-known bits of gossip about her (at least pre-swan), but it seems to be untrue. I don't know if it's been in the article before and been removed, so I'll just put it here for someone to digest. -- Dhartung | Talk 18:41, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Yes it is true. I say this on the Spanish verion of this article. The Prime Miniters granted the island Elliðaey because of Björk's contriobutions to Icelandic culture and popularity. Apparently, there were some critics because she doesn't have a fiscal address (I could find out). Luis María Benítez 15:28, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
I am tempted to remove this section as there is already a comprehensive Bjork discography page. It seems rather pointless to have the same information listed in both places. Any thoughts? -- eo 15:31, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone solve this riddle? There's no way she's pure Nordic. 24.199.113.234 10:28, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
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