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Okay, I read this kind of quick, but it appears the names of the people who acted the charactres aren't listed. It seems they should be and usually are on other pages having to do with TV shows & films. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ManOnPipes ( talk • contribs) 17:42, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Note: Between October 27 2004 and November 29 2004, this topic was reduced to a section on the Birds of Prey page. See that page's edit history for user contributions during that period. -- Paul A 05:51, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I don't understand your objection, which appears to me to have no connection to what I said. -- Paul A 02:43, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Say what? I don't want the comic book and the TV series to have only one page; I agree with you that they ought to be separate -- in fact, as you know, I suggested separating them at Talk:Birds of Prey a while before you actually did it. -- Paul A 02:30, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I deleted a new section listing apparent similarities and differences between the comic book and TV series as I felt it was rather weak, especially since the only two differences listed were in fact erroneous. As stated in the article itself, Black Canary is not a teenager in this series (although she was originally going to be); instead, she is the mother of the teenage girl who works with the team. Similarly, Huntress is the daughter of Batman and Catwoman in some versions of DC Comics continuity. All that left behind was a statement that in the comic and TV show Huntress, Black Canary and Oracle are a team ... which is again wrong since Black Canary is not a member of the team in this series (although she is clearly a former member). I think a list of similarities and differences is still possible, but it needs to be thought out a bit more. 23skidoo 23:52, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
According to Hans Tobeason, the co-executive producer and writer of Birds of Prey: "Perhaps the other most common question was some variation of "Why was BOP cancelled?" This one is somewhat more difficult to answer (not to mention I didn't make the decision, and I wasn't in the room where the decision was made). First of all, the ratings were not stellar. They were not abysmal, either. Ratings alone were not the primary reason for cancellation. The process of making a TV show is very complex - there are many different entities involved, often with differing agendas. In the case of BOP, there were an unusually large number of, for lack of a better word, factions involved. In no particular order - the network (The WB), the studio (Warner Bros. Television), Tollin/Robbins, the writers, the production staff, and the cast. It was not always the case that all of these entities were on the same page, as it were. In the end, the network decided (I suppose) that the effort it was taking to try and get the show they had in mind on the air was not worth it." This comes from http://www.birdsofpreyonline.com/news.php?article=427
In other words, the reason for cancellation was not ratings alone. The ratings were not abysmal and they were not cancel level. This is a myth. On top of that, the ratings were actually going up when the series was cancelled, from what I understand. CureWhite
Birds of Prey had 2 pilots - an aired version and an unaired version. This can be confirmed by an external link already being used on the Birds of Prey page. Could a fan who has seen both of these pilots make an appropriate note/change to the page if warranted? I've only seen one of these, so I'm not informed enough to do so.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.42.199.132 ( talk) 18:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
This is a nod to the Catwoman movie, not Batman Returns. Selena had no powers in Batman Returns. 68.52.88.131 10:17, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Also, it may be a nod (or not) to the older Batman movies, one of which featured a Selena Kyle with catlike powers and behavior (and an origin story, I'd like to add, that the Catwoman flick kind of ripped off a little), though again, apparently there's an in-story explanation that has nothing to do with a near-death experience with cats. :P Runa27 20:38, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
I would like to add http://www.batmanytb.com/tv/bop/index.php to the links section. It is actually more informative then the links that are listed, whic are BTW, FAN sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xphermg ( talk • contribs)
All of the episodes of this series fail the notability guidelines for television episodes. The way for these articles to be improved is through the inclusion of real-world information from reliable sources to assert notability. That is unlikely to happen, and these only have certain bad aspects (though all may not apply) like containing overly long or one sentence plot summaries, trivia, and quotes. Per that, they need to be a small part of this list.
If there are no objections, these will be redirected soon. Otherwise, discussion will take place here. Please remember that this is not a vote. If you like the information, that's fine and dandy, but your opinion doesn't really count towards anything. The only opinions that do count are ones that that lean towards the inclusion of real world information. TTN 22:17, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I've never heard of it before and I think I'd know about a new series on WB if it came of in 2002. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.17.246 ( talk) 18:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Has there been any announcement for a R2 DVD release? Dracoster ( talk) 21:06, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
I hope so but no word so far (this was by venomsgod101 but i cant log in for some reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.109.121.39 ( talk) 22:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
IMDb (and Rachel Skarsten) has the character listed as Dinah LANCE, but the page here says Dinah Redmond. The character biography suggests that this is her name prior to discovering who her mother is, but can anyone confirm how the character is credited on screen? Surely it should be Lance, with (if accurate) Redmond listed in the mini-bio. ntnon ( talk) 03:38, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I deleted a paragraph that was simple speculation without sourcing that the series was somehow related to Smallville, which is unlikely. Plus Smallville created its own version of Black Canary anyway with no connection to this show. If someone can find an article where the writers say the show was a spinoff of Smallville, feel free to put it back, but otherwise this was textbook WP:NOR so I took it out. 70.72.223.215 ( talk) 18:14, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Who were the actor & actress who played Batman & Catwoman in the opening scenes? Was the actress who played Catwoman in costume also playing Selena, right when she was murdered right in front of Helena?-- Splashen ( talk) 04:18, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
wiki's not supposed to be original work and there's no ref's for the plot. Can anyone provide one? Just noticed that there's no refs pretty much for anything. People we need refs.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ImUglyButPrettyUgly ( talk • contribs) 06:56, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
If anyone ever decides to create a Reception section a review from TV Guide might be useful. Found it while looking for other things. -- 109.76.202.211 ( talk) 01:16, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
why does the page offer up a link to BIRD of prey disambig, but not one for the BIRDS version? it is needed to get to the 2020 movie, for example. 2601:19C:527F:A680:191:D30C:392A:A868 ( talk) 04:14, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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Okay, I read this kind of quick, but it appears the names of the people who acted the charactres aren't listed. It seems they should be and usually are on other pages having to do with TV shows & films. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ManOnPipes ( talk • contribs) 17:42, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Note: Between October 27 2004 and November 29 2004, this topic was reduced to a section on the Birds of Prey page. See that page's edit history for user contributions during that period. -- Paul A 05:51, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I don't understand your objection, which appears to me to have no connection to what I said. -- Paul A 02:43, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Say what? I don't want the comic book and the TV series to have only one page; I agree with you that they ought to be separate -- in fact, as you know, I suggested separating them at Talk:Birds of Prey a while before you actually did it. -- Paul A 02:30, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I deleted a new section listing apparent similarities and differences between the comic book and TV series as I felt it was rather weak, especially since the only two differences listed were in fact erroneous. As stated in the article itself, Black Canary is not a teenager in this series (although she was originally going to be); instead, she is the mother of the teenage girl who works with the team. Similarly, Huntress is the daughter of Batman and Catwoman in some versions of DC Comics continuity. All that left behind was a statement that in the comic and TV show Huntress, Black Canary and Oracle are a team ... which is again wrong since Black Canary is not a member of the team in this series (although she is clearly a former member). I think a list of similarities and differences is still possible, but it needs to be thought out a bit more. 23skidoo 23:52, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
According to Hans Tobeason, the co-executive producer and writer of Birds of Prey: "Perhaps the other most common question was some variation of "Why was BOP cancelled?" This one is somewhat more difficult to answer (not to mention I didn't make the decision, and I wasn't in the room where the decision was made). First of all, the ratings were not stellar. They were not abysmal, either. Ratings alone were not the primary reason for cancellation. The process of making a TV show is very complex - there are many different entities involved, often with differing agendas. In the case of BOP, there were an unusually large number of, for lack of a better word, factions involved. In no particular order - the network (The WB), the studio (Warner Bros. Television), Tollin/Robbins, the writers, the production staff, and the cast. It was not always the case that all of these entities were on the same page, as it were. In the end, the network decided (I suppose) that the effort it was taking to try and get the show they had in mind on the air was not worth it." This comes from http://www.birdsofpreyonline.com/news.php?article=427
In other words, the reason for cancellation was not ratings alone. The ratings were not abysmal and they were not cancel level. This is a myth. On top of that, the ratings were actually going up when the series was cancelled, from what I understand. CureWhite
Birds of Prey had 2 pilots - an aired version and an unaired version. This can be confirmed by an external link already being used on the Birds of Prey page. Could a fan who has seen both of these pilots make an appropriate note/change to the page if warranted? I've only seen one of these, so I'm not informed enough to do so.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.42.199.132 ( talk) 18:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
This is a nod to the Catwoman movie, not Batman Returns. Selena had no powers in Batman Returns. 68.52.88.131 10:17, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Also, it may be a nod (or not) to the older Batman movies, one of which featured a Selena Kyle with catlike powers and behavior (and an origin story, I'd like to add, that the Catwoman flick kind of ripped off a little), though again, apparently there's an in-story explanation that has nothing to do with a near-death experience with cats. :P Runa27 20:38, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
I would like to add http://www.batmanytb.com/tv/bop/index.php to the links section. It is actually more informative then the links that are listed, whic are BTW, FAN sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xphermg ( talk • contribs)
All of the episodes of this series fail the notability guidelines for television episodes. The way for these articles to be improved is through the inclusion of real-world information from reliable sources to assert notability. That is unlikely to happen, and these only have certain bad aspects (though all may not apply) like containing overly long or one sentence plot summaries, trivia, and quotes. Per that, they need to be a small part of this list.
If there are no objections, these will be redirected soon. Otherwise, discussion will take place here. Please remember that this is not a vote. If you like the information, that's fine and dandy, but your opinion doesn't really count towards anything. The only opinions that do count are ones that that lean towards the inclusion of real world information. TTN 22:17, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I've never heard of it before and I think I'd know about a new series on WB if it came of in 2002. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.17.246 ( talk) 18:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Has there been any announcement for a R2 DVD release? Dracoster ( talk) 21:06, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
I hope so but no word so far (this was by venomsgod101 but i cant log in for some reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.109.121.39 ( talk) 22:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
IMDb (and Rachel Skarsten) has the character listed as Dinah LANCE, but the page here says Dinah Redmond. The character biography suggests that this is her name prior to discovering who her mother is, but can anyone confirm how the character is credited on screen? Surely it should be Lance, with (if accurate) Redmond listed in the mini-bio. ntnon ( talk) 03:38, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I deleted a paragraph that was simple speculation without sourcing that the series was somehow related to Smallville, which is unlikely. Plus Smallville created its own version of Black Canary anyway with no connection to this show. If someone can find an article where the writers say the show was a spinoff of Smallville, feel free to put it back, but otherwise this was textbook WP:NOR so I took it out. 70.72.223.215 ( talk) 18:14, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Who were the actor & actress who played Batman & Catwoman in the opening scenes? Was the actress who played Catwoman in costume also playing Selena, right when she was murdered right in front of Helena?-- Splashen ( talk) 04:18, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
wiki's not supposed to be original work and there's no ref's for the plot. Can anyone provide one? Just noticed that there's no refs pretty much for anything. People we need refs.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ImUglyButPrettyUgly ( talk • contribs) 06:56, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
If anyone ever decides to create a Reception section a review from TV Guide might be useful. Found it while looking for other things. -- 109.76.202.211 ( talk) 01:16, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
why does the page offer up a link to BIRD of prey disambig, but not one for the BIRDS version? it is needed to get to the 2020 movie, for example. 2601:19C:527F:A680:191:D30C:392A:A868 ( talk) 04:14, 31 July 2022 (UTC)