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I suggest this article be merged with Binaural recording since they really cover the same thing, just with different names. -- Egil 20:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
The reasoning behind this in the current [1] doesn't seem complete. As I understand it, binaural recording is generally intended to record sound intended for reproduction by a listener wearing headphones or earbuds, rather than to capture the sound heard by a listener for scientific analysis or whatever. Therefore the purpose of capturing audio from with the ear canal seems unclear. While there are obvious differences between ear buds and over the ear head phones, neither significantly bypasses the ear canal. In both cases the audio still needs to go through the ear canal before it is heard or in other words the sound should be captured at the level either just before the ear (for over the ear headphones) or just inside the ear canal (for earbuds). Recording from within a stimulated ear canal would seem to just result in a "double" ear canal effect rather than increasing accuracy for the listener, although accepting that the sound produced by ear buds or ear phones is still likely to be far off from that which reaches the ears in a live situation. Nil Einne ( talk) 10:22, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
Looking into those more, both examples seem to be for testing headphones and earbuds where obviously what I said above wouldn't apply, instead it's more a form of scientific analysis where you do want to sense what the eardrums will receive. Neither of them seems related to binaural recording. I wonder if whoever added this didn't understand the purpose of binaural recording. Nil Einne ( talk) 10:27, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 29 January 2021 and 25 May 2021. Further details are available
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 15:43, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Too much overlap in the current shape of both articles to stand independently. Specifically, (1) the merge target BR article lists a bunch of dummy heads to record from [more than the DHR article does], and (2) the merge source DHR article also wants to touch the HRTF-simulated aspect. In addition, the monoaural DHR aspect mentioned in the 2007 merge-oppose argument never materialized in the text. Artoria 2e5 🌉 09:47, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
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23:55, 26 February 2023 (UTC)Re this revert: I did not actually change the link target. I just moved it from "url" to "archive-url" and restored the original URL for this reference, so that the original source of the information is documented. This reference was one of a bunch, across many articles, where an editor fixed dead links in references by obtaining copies of them, hosting them on his own website, and replacing the original URL of the reference with one that pointed to his site. I fixed a bunch of these. When I edited this article yesterday, I kept the link to the "archive" but correctly recorded the original URL of the reference for posterity, linking to the archive as an archive.
The problem with users archiving references on their own sites is of course that those sites may eventually go down. Something like that may have happened here. The link worked fine for me yesterday, but today my antivirus flags the link target as a phishing site. I have removed the informal "archive" and left the link dead, since I have not been able to find another copy of the article online for free.
The reference does not appear to be a reliable source anyway, although it might qualify for use under WP:SELFPUB; it's hard to tell since I can't access a copy. -- Srleffler ( talk) 04:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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I suggest this article be merged with Binaural recording since they really cover the same thing, just with different names. -- Egil 20:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
The reasoning behind this in the current [1] doesn't seem complete. As I understand it, binaural recording is generally intended to record sound intended for reproduction by a listener wearing headphones or earbuds, rather than to capture the sound heard by a listener for scientific analysis or whatever. Therefore the purpose of capturing audio from with the ear canal seems unclear. While there are obvious differences between ear buds and over the ear head phones, neither significantly bypasses the ear canal. In both cases the audio still needs to go through the ear canal before it is heard or in other words the sound should be captured at the level either just before the ear (for over the ear headphones) or just inside the ear canal (for earbuds). Recording from within a stimulated ear canal would seem to just result in a "double" ear canal effect rather than increasing accuracy for the listener, although accepting that the sound produced by ear buds or ear phones is still likely to be far off from that which reaches the ears in a live situation. Nil Einne ( talk) 10:22, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
Looking into those more, both examples seem to be for testing headphones and earbuds where obviously what I said above wouldn't apply, instead it's more a form of scientific analysis where you do want to sense what the eardrums will receive. Neither of them seems related to binaural recording. I wonder if whoever added this didn't understand the purpose of binaural recording. Nil Einne ( talk) 10:27, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 29 January 2021 and 25 May 2021. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Eric.collazo94. Peer reviewers:
JFlor42,
Azg20,
Jwozniak19.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 15:43, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Too much overlap in the current shape of both articles to stand independently. Specifically, (1) the merge target BR article lists a bunch of dummy heads to record from [more than the DHR article does], and (2) the merge source DHR article also wants to touch the HRTF-simulated aspect. In addition, the monoaural DHR aspect mentioned in the 2007 merge-oppose argument never materialized in the text. Artoria 2e5 🌉 09:47, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Fred Gandt ·
talk ·
contribs
02:14, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Fred Gandt ·
talk ·
contribs
23:55, 26 February 2023 (UTC)Re this revert: I did not actually change the link target. I just moved it from "url" to "archive-url" and restored the original URL for this reference, so that the original source of the information is documented. This reference was one of a bunch, across many articles, where an editor fixed dead links in references by obtaining copies of them, hosting them on his own website, and replacing the original URL of the reference with one that pointed to his site. I fixed a bunch of these. When I edited this article yesterday, I kept the link to the "archive" but correctly recorded the original URL of the reference for posterity, linking to the archive as an archive.
The problem with users archiving references on their own sites is of course that those sites may eventually go down. Something like that may have happened here. The link worked fine for me yesterday, but today my antivirus flags the link target as a phishing site. I have removed the informal "archive" and left the link dead, since I have not been able to find another copy of the article online for free.
The reference does not appear to be a reliable source anyway, although it might qualify for use under WP:SELFPUB; it's hard to tell since I can't access a copy. -- Srleffler ( talk) 04:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)