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I see that this was moved in December 2007 from Billy Williams (baseball player); as the umpire of the same name qualifies for an article, perhaps this should be moved back? (Actually, since there was another Billy Williams who played briefly as a right fielder for the 1969 Pilots, perhaps this should be moved to Billy Williams (left fielder).) MisfitToys ( talk) 23:43, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is very clear: "A topic is primary for a term, with respect to usage, if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term." (emphasis mine) I make no judgment on whether the disambiguating parenthetical should be changed, as suggested by User:Transaspie. I expect that as long as it follows WP:NC-BASE, that move would be uncontroversial. Aervanath ( talk) 19:22, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
– According to stats.grok.se, the left fielder's page is currently viewed about four-to-six times more than any other page on a person simply named Billy Williams. (2,055 times for the LF in Oct. '11, next closest is the singer (572), whose page views spiked that month on the anniversary of his death, then the music hall performer at 320, and everybody else is under 200) Since the left fielder is a Hall of Fame baseball player, and since Billy Dee Williams very rarely goes by just Billy Williams, the left fielder seems worthy of being the primary topic. Transaspie ( talk) 06:24, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Move. Consensus is that the left fielder is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Cúchullain t/ c 17:48, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
– This article was originally at Billy Williams (baseball player), but it’s not possible to get to the article through the search bar through Billy Williams (baseball) or Billy Williams (baseball player) anymore because of Billy Williams (right fielder). Currently, Billy Williams (left fielder) is extremely hard to find on the disambiguation page. Further, readers who know they are looking for a baseball outfielder may not know whether the Hall of Famer is the right fielder or the left fielder. Despite this, the article gets about 70% of total hits over an extended period, ten times more than the next most-visited article: [1]. (This analysis includes the 10 most-visited Billy Williams.) The article also received over 65% of total hits in the least active period, eliminating all spikes: [2]. A move request several years ago pegged the number at closer to 40%, and failed on those grounds alone. The current numbers would have addressed the concerns of all of the opposers in the previous discussion, according to their rationales, as well as the WP:PTOPIC reading of the closer. The appearance of being the primary topic is not due to recentism, either, since the player has been retired since 1976 and in the Hall of Fame since 1987. Dekimasu よ! 17:22, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
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I see that this was moved in December 2007 from Billy Williams (baseball player); as the umpire of the same name qualifies for an article, perhaps this should be moved back? (Actually, since there was another Billy Williams who played briefly as a right fielder for the 1969 Pilots, perhaps this should be moved to Billy Williams (left fielder).) MisfitToys ( talk) 23:43, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is very clear: "A topic is primary for a term, with respect to usage, if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term." (emphasis mine) I make no judgment on whether the disambiguating parenthetical should be changed, as suggested by User:Transaspie. I expect that as long as it follows WP:NC-BASE, that move would be uncontroversial. Aervanath ( talk) 19:22, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
– According to stats.grok.se, the left fielder's page is currently viewed about four-to-six times more than any other page on a person simply named Billy Williams. (2,055 times for the LF in Oct. '11, next closest is the singer (572), whose page views spiked that month on the anniversary of his death, then the music hall performer at 320, and everybody else is under 200) Since the left fielder is a Hall of Fame baseball player, and since Billy Dee Williams very rarely goes by just Billy Williams, the left fielder seems worthy of being the primary topic. Transaspie ( talk) 06:24, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Move. Consensus is that the left fielder is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Cúchullain t/ c 17:48, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
– This article was originally at Billy Williams (baseball player), but it’s not possible to get to the article through the search bar through Billy Williams (baseball) or Billy Williams (baseball player) anymore because of Billy Williams (right fielder). Currently, Billy Williams (left fielder) is extremely hard to find on the disambiguation page. Further, readers who know they are looking for a baseball outfielder may not know whether the Hall of Famer is the right fielder or the left fielder. Despite this, the article gets about 70% of total hits over an extended period, ten times more than the next most-visited article: [1]. (This analysis includes the 10 most-visited Billy Williams.) The article also received over 65% of total hits in the least active period, eliminating all spikes: [2]. A move request several years ago pegged the number at closer to 40%, and failed on those grounds alone. The current numbers would have addressed the concerns of all of the opposers in the previous discussion, according to their rationales, as well as the WP:PTOPIC reading of the closer. The appearance of being the primary topic is not due to recentism, either, since the player has been retired since 1976 and in the Hall of Fame since 1987. Dekimasu よ! 17:22, 23 July 2018 (UTC)