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Actually the marker does not exactly mark the Old Treaty Elm. According to a long-time resident, who remembered the Elm, the Elm was actually located in the middle of the Street to the right of the marker. The streets, built at approximately the time the Elm disappeared, may have been a victim to Progress. Sauganash streets were built by the WPA.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.77.18.71 ( talk • contribs)
Mr. Keoster, was a developer in Saugansh. He owned the gas station at the corner of Petersen and Kostner. He had an incredible collection of pictures of Saugansh through the years. I use to cut his lawn. He invited me into his house and showed me his collection of historical photos. One of those photos was the day of the dedication of the Dutch Elm Treaty. There exists a picture. I believe Mr. Keoster's wife eventually donated it to the Chicago Historical Society. FYI, one of the the oldest, if not oldest home in Saugansh is located on Kostner just north east of the intersection of Rogers and Kostner --- just to the north of the ally. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MAC 1976 ( talk • contribs) 02:50, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
I am quite sure that the correct spelling is Koester. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.217.104.123 ( talk) 18:01, 12 June 2011 (UTC) [Or Koestner, like the Sauganash street]
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Someone made wholesale changes to this article between February and early August 2011, including removing previous references, making many unsourced changes, and adding numerous spelling and grammar errors. Now there is only one reference and no inline citations, whereas before several sources were cited. Such changes should not be done without thorough discussion on the Talk page. Previous cited facts have to be added back to the article unless an editor can support their exclusion by reference to Reliable Sources (RS). Parkwells ( talk) 19:00, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Please stop reverting my changes to this article. I have been trying to use sources to provide cites for the content. You are adding back spelling errors, poorly organized sections, unsourced sections and other problems. If you have issues with the content or changes, please bring them to the TAlk page. Parkwells ( talk) 19:40, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
The material about the land purchases came from part 3 of the article, published in August, and needs to have a separate citation. This is not the recommended cite format preferred in Wikipedia MOS. Parkwells ( talk) 19:47, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
I am not an expert, but in the first section, we are told that Billy was a Metis of a Pottawatami mother who learned the language from her.
In a later section, we are assured that Billy's mother was a Mohawk and he learned the Pottawatmi language after he became a voyageur and went to the States.
Which is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jovan66102 ( talk • contribs) 03:31, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
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I just removed "Zhaaganaash" as the origin of the name Sauganash. Though he worked with, traded with, and led Ojibwe people, Billy Caldwell was not Ojibwe, he was Potawatomi. Unlike Ojibwe, the Potawatomi language doesn't have long vowels, so "Zhaaganaash" isn't a licit Potawatomi word, and thus was almost certainly not his given name. It would have been a Potawatomi cognate term, which might look like "Zhaganash" or "Zhagnash." I don't speak either language and I can't find a reliable source for such a cognate, so for now I'm leaving it blank. If anyone on here knows some Potawatomi or has a reliable source, please go ahead and add the correct version back in! Aquaticonions ( talk) 22:50, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
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Actually the marker does not exactly mark the Old Treaty Elm. According to a long-time resident, who remembered the Elm, the Elm was actually located in the middle of the Street to the right of the marker. The streets, built at approximately the time the Elm disappeared, may have been a victim to Progress. Sauganash streets were built by the WPA.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.77.18.71 ( talk • contribs)
Mr. Keoster, was a developer in Saugansh. He owned the gas station at the corner of Petersen and Kostner. He had an incredible collection of pictures of Saugansh through the years. I use to cut his lawn. He invited me into his house and showed me his collection of historical photos. One of those photos was the day of the dedication of the Dutch Elm Treaty. There exists a picture. I believe Mr. Keoster's wife eventually donated it to the Chicago Historical Society. FYI, one of the the oldest, if not oldest home in Saugansh is located on Kostner just north east of the intersection of Rogers and Kostner --- just to the north of the ally. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MAC 1976 ( talk • contribs) 02:50, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
I am quite sure that the correct spelling is Koester. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.217.104.123 ( talk) 18:01, 12 June 2011 (UTC) [Or Koestner, like the Sauganash street]
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 04:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Someone made wholesale changes to this article between February and early August 2011, including removing previous references, making many unsourced changes, and adding numerous spelling and grammar errors. Now there is only one reference and no inline citations, whereas before several sources were cited. Such changes should not be done without thorough discussion on the Talk page. Previous cited facts have to be added back to the article unless an editor can support their exclusion by reference to Reliable Sources (RS). Parkwells ( talk) 19:00, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Please stop reverting my changes to this article. I have been trying to use sources to provide cites for the content. You are adding back spelling errors, poorly organized sections, unsourced sections and other problems. If you have issues with the content or changes, please bring them to the TAlk page. Parkwells ( talk) 19:40, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
The material about the land purchases came from part 3 of the article, published in August, and needs to have a separate citation. This is not the recommended cite format preferred in Wikipedia MOS. Parkwells ( talk) 19:47, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
I am not an expert, but in the first section, we are told that Billy was a Metis of a Pottawatami mother who learned the language from her.
In a later section, we are assured that Billy's mother was a Mohawk and he learned the Pottawatmi language after he became a voyageur and went to the States.
Which is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jovan66102 ( talk • contribs) 03:31, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
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I just removed "Zhaaganaash" as the origin of the name Sauganash. Though he worked with, traded with, and led Ojibwe people, Billy Caldwell was not Ojibwe, he was Potawatomi. Unlike Ojibwe, the Potawatomi language doesn't have long vowels, so "Zhaaganaash" isn't a licit Potawatomi word, and thus was almost certainly not his given name. It would have been a Potawatomi cognate term, which might look like "Zhaganash" or "Zhagnash." I don't speak either language and I can't find a reliable source for such a cognate, so for now I'm leaving it blank. If anyone on here knows some Potawatomi or has a reliable source, please go ahead and add the correct version back in! Aquaticonions ( talk) 22:50, 11 August 2021 (UTC)