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Found Some Public Domain Photographs of Billy in his Heyday on the Imperial War museum Homepage, If anyone has better Quality ones they would be appreciated. Also since his headstone is pretty distinct if anyone can upload photographs of it to commons they'd also be appreciated. Stuart.Jamieson ( talk) 15:27, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Discovered this source from the 1952 Sydney, Sunday Herald.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18509519
It has a lot of detail I've not seen anywhere else, I don't know if that makes it unreliable or not - if anyone has opinion It would be appreciated. It's good because it's a secondary source that backs up the biography at butlins-memories it does however have a few conflicts with
[1] (his place of birth is the first) advice appreciate
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According to the cayman islands link, Billy's estate was in part to go to Frederick T Devine - seemingly Sheila's Son from before they married, I'm looking for sources that clarify the relationship with Billy if anyone can find one.
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There are two publications, Scott & Dacre, that are referenced several times. If these are not going to be listed in a separate section e.g.=== Sources === then the full citation should be given the first time the book is used. As it is both Scott and Dacre are referenced several times before the full citation is seen. There also needs to be some consitency over the use of full stops and spaces in conjunction with page numbers p.X. p. X. p. X & p.X are all encountered.
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Throughout there are monetary amounts quoted with current day equivalents. Is it possible to a) standardise the currency and b) use the same year? a) I appreciate that the use of dollars relates to the West Indies adventure but then there is the secondary calculation to be made of "how much is that in £?" use of one currency throughout would provide a better reference point. b) some are expressed in 2010 values and others 2011. You might want to consider as an option using the templates {{ Inflation}} and {{ Formatprice}}.
Looking pretty good. I've done a quick copy edit and noticed three more things that need clarifying;
There was also a deadlink but I've changed that for you as the new link doesn't change the statement it supports. NtheP ( talk)
Coverage of Butlin's involvement with this is missing. He promised £5,000 bonuses to Donald Campbell for breaking the record. The structure of these bonuses, and the way that they were awarded for quite small increments over the previous record had a significant influence on Campbell's tactics, encouraging repeated small advances on the record, rather than a single large push (although these small-slice tactics eventually led to Campbell being written out of the Wikipedia land speed record article!). Campbell collected the bonus four times, which made a massive contribution to his personal finances, and his funding for further record attempts - Donald Campbell was never the rich man his father Malcolm had been.
There's a whole chapter entitled "The Butlin Years" in Tremayne's The Man Behind The Mask bio of Campbell. If I have time (which is unfortunately short) I might try to add a section. Andy Dingley ( talk) 11:23, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Butlin had a small, but significant, influence on the preservation of UK steam locomotives. He acquired a couple (?) of withdrawn locos in the '60s and placed them at the camps for purely decorative reasons. At least one was later restored to running service. As these were unusually large locos for the typical preservation society budget in the '60s, these were types that were otherwise unlikely to have been preserved. Andy Dingley ( talk) 11:26, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
A big factor in the success of his first holiday camp was the new law that obliged employers to provide paid holidays. (See his memoirs). 86.183.206.77 ( talk) 16:03, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
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Found Some Public Domain Photographs of Billy in his Heyday on the Imperial War museum Homepage, If anyone has better Quality ones they would be appreciated. Also since his headstone is pretty distinct if anyone can upload photographs of it to commons they'd also be appreciated. Stuart.Jamieson ( talk) 15:27, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Discovered this source from the 1952 Sydney, Sunday Herald.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18509519
It has a lot of detail I've not seen anywhere else, I don't know if that makes it unreliable or not - if anyone has opinion It would be appreciated. It's good because it's a secondary source that backs up the biography at butlins-memories it does however have a few conflicts with
[1] (his place of birth is the first) advice appreciate
Stuart.Jamieson (
talk)
17:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
According to the cayman islands link, Billy's estate was in part to go to Frederick T Devine - seemingly Sheila's Son from before they married, I'm looking for sources that clarify the relationship with Billy if anyone can find one.
Stuart.Jamieson (
talk)
19:46, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
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There are two publications, Scott & Dacre, that are referenced several times. If these are not going to be listed in a separate section e.g.=== Sources === then the full citation should be given the first time the book is used. As it is both Scott and Dacre are referenced several times before the full citation is seen. There also needs to be some consitency over the use of full stops and spaces in conjunction with page numbers p.X. p. X. p. X & p.X are all encountered.
Done
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Done
Done
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Throughout there are monetary amounts quoted with current day equivalents. Is it possible to a) standardise the currency and b) use the same year? a) I appreciate that the use of dollars relates to the West Indies adventure but then there is the secondary calculation to be made of "how much is that in £?" use of one currency throughout would provide a better reference point. b) some are expressed in 2010 values and others 2011. You might want to consider as an option using the templates {{ Inflation}} and {{ Formatprice}}.
Looking pretty good. I've done a quick copy edit and noticed three more things that need clarifying;
There was also a deadlink but I've changed that for you as the new link doesn't change the statement it supports. NtheP ( talk)
Coverage of Butlin's involvement with this is missing. He promised £5,000 bonuses to Donald Campbell for breaking the record. The structure of these bonuses, and the way that they were awarded for quite small increments over the previous record had a significant influence on Campbell's tactics, encouraging repeated small advances on the record, rather than a single large push (although these small-slice tactics eventually led to Campbell being written out of the Wikipedia land speed record article!). Campbell collected the bonus four times, which made a massive contribution to his personal finances, and his funding for further record attempts - Donald Campbell was never the rich man his father Malcolm had been.
There's a whole chapter entitled "The Butlin Years" in Tremayne's The Man Behind The Mask bio of Campbell. If I have time (which is unfortunately short) I might try to add a section. Andy Dingley ( talk) 11:23, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Butlin had a small, but significant, influence on the preservation of UK steam locomotives. He acquired a couple (?) of withdrawn locos in the '60s and placed them at the camps for purely decorative reasons. At least one was later restored to running service. As these were unusually large locos for the typical preservation society budget in the '60s, these were types that were otherwise unlikely to have been preserved. Andy Dingley ( talk) 11:26, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
A big factor in the success of his first holiday camp was the new law that obliged employers to provide paid holidays. (See his memoirs). 86.183.206.77 ( talk) 16:03, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
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