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I would like to remove the following sentence: "Johnsen had previously accused another former boyfriend of rape and kidnapping in 1997, and the charges were later dismissed for lack of evidence." It is unrelated to the allegations against Maher and clearly establishes bias. Lack of evidence does not prove a pattern one way or the other, and in any case should not be stated in this article (it is already in hers). The fact that no action proceeded against Maher should stand by itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.234.125.91 ( talk) 13:50, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi, you reverted my category edits to Sam Harris and Bill Maher (I changed Category:Critics of religions to Category:Critics of Islam and Category:Critics of Christianity) to broaden the categories -- but Category:Critics of religions is a parent category of both these categories, so I felt these were more appropriate categories to use. -- Jatkins ( talk - contribs) 19:38, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
7} Atheist, apatheist agnostic,...and deist. There was a time when Maher refered to himself as and espoused Deist beliefs. That should be added to the article. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYW2xXxFVtU The above is but one example. There are a few other examples, that I'm having difficult tracking down, but remember, from the 90's/early 2000's where he actually used the label 'deist". Then in mid-2000's he moved towards agnostic than apatheist and then later in the 2000's he took on "atheist' as his label/belief — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.13.26.224 ( talk) 22:50, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
His Real Time episode in fact aired after Reagan Battalion had leaked the videos. The episode merely fanned the fire. 2601:447:4101:B820:A09F:AD15:63F0:AE0C ( talk) 22:58, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Multiple news sources have reported on Mahers usage of racially charged material. Do not remove the information from the article or act like it is too controversial to be seen. 2600:6C46:4A00:131A:A51A:E207:5AAB:59B2 ( talk) 18:01, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
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Talk pages are more controversial, we must know the real Bill, not learn again what basic atheism is! We should add his quotations about the nonlayman aspects of atheism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2149:844B:600:E865:16E9:EDB6:2449 ( talk) 02:06, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
How can we best include his support for abortion in this article, contrasting his position with animal rights? MickeyDonald ( talk) 01:58, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
steve allen links seem to not go through — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.209.197.234 ( talk) 17:03, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
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(Introductory comment: I became aware of Bill Maher's association with Steve Allen when I viewed on Youtube a video clip of one of Steve Allen's shows -- "Steve Allen's Music Room." Here is that clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgjGEkzWiow&list=RDJgjGEkzWiow&start_radio=1 Mahr is first seen at about the 45 second mark and then comes and goes during the episode. But, before that, I am pretty certain that Maher is the announcer. Guests on this episode included Doc Severinsen, Patti Page, and Ann Jillian. When I saw this, I wasn't absolutely certain that it was Maher that I saw, but that sighting was confirmed when I read this account today: "After graduating (B.A., 1978), Maher became a regular in clubs throughout the country. He also made many appearances on The Tonight Show and came to the attention of Steve Allen, who cast him as his sidekick on the cable series Steve Allen’s Music Room." https://www.britannica.com/biography/Bill-Maher Steve Allen was not only himself an extremely talented and accomplished musician, comedian, composer, author, and playwright, but he recognized great talent in others.)
My suggestion is that this important part of Maher's early career be included in the Wikipedia bio, while updating at the same time. Perhaps the following edit would work:
Replace the first three sentences under the "Early Career" heading with:
After graduating from Cornell, Maher began his career as a comedian and actor. Maher became a regular in clubs throughout the country. He was host of the New York City comedy club Catch a Rising Star in 1979. He came to the attention of Steve Allen who cast him as his sidekick on the cable series Steve Allen’s Music Room (1984-1986). He also made many appearances on The Tonight Show (which was originated and first hosted by Steve Allen) and The Late Show, beginning in 1982 -- continuing for 37 years to the present time (2019). 72.28.182.30 ( talk) 15:32, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Edited last sentence in Health Care section. In his blog, Gorski did argue that Gordon is anti-vaccine, saying that giving six vaccines that day was low for a pediatrician. But that does not mean Gordon is antivaccine. Gorski did not address the fact that Maher notes Gordon gives himself vaccines. Gordon said vaccines are important, “but we could do them better.” Considering Gordon is a living person, I think that characterization of Gordon as “antivaxx” is unsupported and thus I removed the modifier. I added “possibility of” to “a link btwn vaccines and autism” bc that is much more in line with what Gordon said. I have started a section on the talk page. Pls discuss there before reverting. Thank you. JustinReilly ( talk) 22:56, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Bill Maher does NOT consider himself jewish. so for him to be tagged under 'jewish American comedians' is idiotic and I hope you see that....... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 18:59, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
here is the source!
this text is found in the article!!!!!
as Maher explained, “the third thing I think we have in common is that people think we’re Jewish and we’re not. We were both raised Catholic.”
if....that is so...then how come there is no category for 'Irish American comedians' or 'Scottish American comedians'
just 'jewish American comedians'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 19:16, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
well flighttime I am sure that you can understand why I do not think he should go under the category especially since HE considers himself non-jewish and I honestly feel that that should be respected! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 19:21, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
I just fear that an agenda is being pushed here by someone (perhaps you) by calling the man a 'jewish comedian' when he clearly isn't. that is why I detest it so much flighttime..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 19:28, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
He said those words in the interview so if you find it “not reliable” I have to imagine you are trying to push some agenda on this man rather than accepting the facts - which is that he is NOT jewish! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 21:45, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Umm do you seriously want me to find the exact interview and video? Hahaha oh my gosh. That is rather petty.
Well I found. that it comes from the November 14 2014 episode but I do not know how to find the episode footage itself — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 22:00, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
My advice to you is stop being petty. I will try to find the FULL episode but it won’t be easy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 22:12, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
RawStory is a legit news source by the way. You just want to push your pro-jewish agenda on this man by trying to judaize him when he isn’t jewish. I also want to say I noticed you are semi-retired that is a good thing, you should go in to FULL retirement if you are going to push your agenda on people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 17:46, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
(Going to sleep very soon and don't have time to add to article now.) Hoping someone can add Club Random to article. Just watched Bill Maher being interviewed on a recent Jimmy Kimmel Live (TV show) and interview includes talk of Maher project Club Random. URL at Maher's website is at https://billmaher.com/videos/club-random-videos/ . Videos hosted at YouTube, where the channel is named "Club Random Podcast", but the series seems to be named "Club Random with Bill Maher". -- EarthFurst ( talk) 10:17, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
A quick Google search of "Bill Maher far right" seems to turn up quite a bunch of sources that refer to him as such. Valgrus Thunderaxe ( talk) 18:13, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Maher and Howard Stern had a feud some time back. The two have long since reconciled. I am unable to find reference to this feud here. (Nor can I find it on the Howard Stern article.) I wish someone could mention the feud and explain what it was all about. How did it begin? How was it resolved? Allan Marain 16:57, 12 February 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marainlaw ( talk • contribs)
The section on a COVID-19 lab leak hypothesis shouldn’t be under, or described as, a conspiracy theory. This seems to me like a legitimate hypothesis that a significant minority of scientists do, in fact, believe -- I don’t think there’s any academic consensus about this yet. 128.12.123.55 ( talk) 10:42, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
@ 0mtwb9gd5wx: You recently added a single sentence about the reaction of the head of the Writers' Guild. Without more detail and context, it really doesn't tell the reader anything significant. Please incorporate a brief summary of the aspect of Maher's view and that reaction that esablishes WP:WEIGHT for this article and better informs our readers. SPECIFICO talk 14:37, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
The piece says,
Suggest that the editor clarify what is the antecedent of the relative pronoun, that before comic books. As written the closest antecedent is legacy, but I doubt that such was the intention of the editor. ( TerryKave ( talk) 22:32, 10 December 2023 (UTC))
He's definitely no Alex Jones but he is about one degree up from Joe Rogan for his penchant for pushing fringe theories especially around Covid or his virulent racism towards Asian countries' animal welfare (because the welfare of cats and dogs is virtuous compared to the welfare of cows, pigs and sheep in the American meat processing industry). His latest podcast with Seth Macfarlane has come under particular scrutiny for the utter bilge he was spouting about vaccines. In relation to this article, there is a normalcy projected here that does not address the fact that his views have become ensconced in conspiracy theories. I would like to point out it's quite noticeable; the disparity that this guy gets (who is politically aligned with the Democrats) with his watered-down pass of an article in comparison to Republican-aligned individuals who have shown interest in a QAnon topic because they are quickly labelled "supporters" of this conspiracy. Articles like this one on Maher show the inequity of this site where the lack of parity between topics of the same ilk make it look like articles have an agenda. WP:NPOV is all well and good, but it's what missing from the article that is just as conspicuous as to what is in them. The unbalanced views of Maher needs to be addressed, he might make an off-color remark in a joke but I think that's his shtick in getting a dubious point made that goes under the radar because it's meant for laughs not for commentary. 147.147.221.201 ( talk) 12:21, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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I would like to remove the following sentence: "Johnsen had previously accused another former boyfriend of rape and kidnapping in 1997, and the charges were later dismissed for lack of evidence." It is unrelated to the allegations against Maher and clearly establishes bias. Lack of evidence does not prove a pattern one way or the other, and in any case should not be stated in this article (it is already in hers). The fact that no action proceeded against Maher should stand by itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.234.125.91 ( talk) 13:50, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi, you reverted my category edits to Sam Harris and Bill Maher (I changed Category:Critics of religions to Category:Critics of Islam and Category:Critics of Christianity) to broaden the categories -- but Category:Critics of religions is a parent category of both these categories, so I felt these were more appropriate categories to use. -- Jatkins ( talk - contribs) 19:38, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
7} Atheist, apatheist agnostic,...and deist. There was a time when Maher refered to himself as and espoused Deist beliefs. That should be added to the article. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYW2xXxFVtU The above is but one example. There are a few other examples, that I'm having difficult tracking down, but remember, from the 90's/early 2000's where he actually used the label 'deist". Then in mid-2000's he moved towards agnostic than apatheist and then later in the 2000's he took on "atheist' as his label/belief — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.13.26.224 ( talk) 22:50, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
His Real Time episode in fact aired after Reagan Battalion had leaked the videos. The episode merely fanned the fire. 2601:447:4101:B820:A09F:AD15:63F0:AE0C ( talk) 22:58, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Multiple news sources have reported on Mahers usage of racially charged material. Do not remove the information from the article or act like it is too controversial to be seen. 2600:6C46:4A00:131A:A51A:E207:5AAB:59B2 ( talk) 18:01, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
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Talk pages are more controversial, we must know the real Bill, not learn again what basic atheism is! We should add his quotations about the nonlayman aspects of atheism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2149:844B:600:E865:16E9:EDB6:2449 ( talk) 02:06, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
How can we best include his support for abortion in this article, contrasting his position with animal rights? MickeyDonald ( talk) 01:58, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
steve allen links seem to not go through — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.209.197.234 ( talk) 17:03, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
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(Introductory comment: I became aware of Bill Maher's association with Steve Allen when I viewed on Youtube a video clip of one of Steve Allen's shows -- "Steve Allen's Music Room." Here is that clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgjGEkzWiow&list=RDJgjGEkzWiow&start_radio=1 Mahr is first seen at about the 45 second mark and then comes and goes during the episode. But, before that, I am pretty certain that Maher is the announcer. Guests on this episode included Doc Severinsen, Patti Page, and Ann Jillian. When I saw this, I wasn't absolutely certain that it was Maher that I saw, but that sighting was confirmed when I read this account today: "After graduating (B.A., 1978), Maher became a regular in clubs throughout the country. He also made many appearances on The Tonight Show and came to the attention of Steve Allen, who cast him as his sidekick on the cable series Steve Allen’s Music Room." https://www.britannica.com/biography/Bill-Maher Steve Allen was not only himself an extremely talented and accomplished musician, comedian, composer, author, and playwright, but he recognized great talent in others.)
My suggestion is that this important part of Maher's early career be included in the Wikipedia bio, while updating at the same time. Perhaps the following edit would work:
Replace the first three sentences under the "Early Career" heading with:
After graduating from Cornell, Maher began his career as a comedian and actor. Maher became a regular in clubs throughout the country. He was host of the New York City comedy club Catch a Rising Star in 1979. He came to the attention of Steve Allen who cast him as his sidekick on the cable series Steve Allen’s Music Room (1984-1986). He also made many appearances on The Tonight Show (which was originated and first hosted by Steve Allen) and The Late Show, beginning in 1982 -- continuing for 37 years to the present time (2019). 72.28.182.30 ( talk) 15:32, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Edited last sentence in Health Care section. In his blog, Gorski did argue that Gordon is anti-vaccine, saying that giving six vaccines that day was low for a pediatrician. But that does not mean Gordon is antivaccine. Gorski did not address the fact that Maher notes Gordon gives himself vaccines. Gordon said vaccines are important, “but we could do them better.” Considering Gordon is a living person, I think that characterization of Gordon as “antivaxx” is unsupported and thus I removed the modifier. I added “possibility of” to “a link btwn vaccines and autism” bc that is much more in line with what Gordon said. I have started a section on the talk page. Pls discuss there before reverting. Thank you. JustinReilly ( talk) 22:56, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Bill Maher does NOT consider himself jewish. so for him to be tagged under 'jewish American comedians' is idiotic and I hope you see that....... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 18:59, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
here is the source!
this text is found in the article!!!!!
as Maher explained, “the third thing I think we have in common is that people think we’re Jewish and we’re not. We were both raised Catholic.”
if....that is so...then how come there is no category for 'Irish American comedians' or 'Scottish American comedians'
just 'jewish American comedians'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 19:16, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
well flighttime I am sure that you can understand why I do not think he should go under the category especially since HE considers himself non-jewish and I honestly feel that that should be respected! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 19:21, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
I just fear that an agenda is being pushed here by someone (perhaps you) by calling the man a 'jewish comedian' when he clearly isn't. that is why I detest it so much flighttime..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 19:28, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
He said those words in the interview so if you find it “not reliable” I have to imagine you are trying to push some agenda on this man rather than accepting the facts - which is that he is NOT jewish! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 21:45, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Umm do you seriously want me to find the exact interview and video? Hahaha oh my gosh. That is rather petty.
Well I found. that it comes from the November 14 2014 episode but I do not know how to find the episode footage itself — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 22:00, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
My advice to you is stop being petty. I will try to find the FULL episode but it won’t be easy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 22:12, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
RawStory is a legit news source by the way. You just want to push your pro-jewish agenda on this man by trying to judaize him when he isn’t jewish. I also want to say I noticed you are semi-retired that is a good thing, you should go in to FULL retirement if you are going to push your agenda on people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.21.114 ( talk) 17:46, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
(Going to sleep very soon and don't have time to add to article now.) Hoping someone can add Club Random to article. Just watched Bill Maher being interviewed on a recent Jimmy Kimmel Live (TV show) and interview includes talk of Maher project Club Random. URL at Maher's website is at https://billmaher.com/videos/club-random-videos/ . Videos hosted at YouTube, where the channel is named "Club Random Podcast", but the series seems to be named "Club Random with Bill Maher". -- EarthFurst ( talk) 10:17, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
A quick Google search of "Bill Maher far right" seems to turn up quite a bunch of sources that refer to him as such. Valgrus Thunderaxe ( talk) 18:13, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Maher and Howard Stern had a feud some time back. The two have long since reconciled. I am unable to find reference to this feud here. (Nor can I find it on the Howard Stern article.) I wish someone could mention the feud and explain what it was all about. How did it begin? How was it resolved? Allan Marain 16:57, 12 February 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marainlaw ( talk • contribs)
The section on a COVID-19 lab leak hypothesis shouldn’t be under, or described as, a conspiracy theory. This seems to me like a legitimate hypothesis that a significant minority of scientists do, in fact, believe -- I don’t think there’s any academic consensus about this yet. 128.12.123.55 ( talk) 10:42, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
@ 0mtwb9gd5wx: You recently added a single sentence about the reaction of the head of the Writers' Guild. Without more detail and context, it really doesn't tell the reader anything significant. Please incorporate a brief summary of the aspect of Maher's view and that reaction that esablishes WP:WEIGHT for this article and better informs our readers. SPECIFICO talk 14:37, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
The piece says,
Suggest that the editor clarify what is the antecedent of the relative pronoun, that before comic books. As written the closest antecedent is legacy, but I doubt that such was the intention of the editor. ( TerryKave ( talk) 22:32, 10 December 2023 (UTC))
He's definitely no Alex Jones but he is about one degree up from Joe Rogan for his penchant for pushing fringe theories especially around Covid or his virulent racism towards Asian countries' animal welfare (because the welfare of cats and dogs is virtuous compared to the welfare of cows, pigs and sheep in the American meat processing industry). His latest podcast with Seth Macfarlane has come under particular scrutiny for the utter bilge he was spouting about vaccines. In relation to this article, there is a normalcy projected here that does not address the fact that his views have become ensconced in conspiracy theories. I would like to point out it's quite noticeable; the disparity that this guy gets (who is politically aligned with the Democrats) with his watered-down pass of an article in comparison to Republican-aligned individuals who have shown interest in a QAnon topic because they are quickly labelled "supporters" of this conspiracy. Articles like this one on Maher show the inequity of this site where the lack of parity between topics of the same ilk make it look like articles have an agenda. WP:NPOV is all well and good, but it's what missing from the article that is just as conspicuous as to what is in them. The unbalanced views of Maher needs to be addressed, he might make an off-color remark in a joke but I think that's his shtick in getting a dubious point made that goes under the radar because it's meant for laughs not for commentary. 147.147.221.201 ( talk) 12:21, 5 January 2024 (UTC)