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--I edited the text of this page, seeing as though the belt in question (or the WWE alternative) is actually defended on Smackdown, as opposed to Raw.
Tenspeeder 01:46, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Not sure if it means much, but Ric Flair said in a episode of WWE Confidential that the belt that WWE has is in fact the original and is not a replica. --- Silent RAGE! 15:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I know the original belt had the top portion of the main plate bent slightly forward. I dont know if this was repaired or not, but the belt currently held by Batista is definitely not the original. MFuture 17:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I reworked the paragraph on the belt's use in WWE. The way it was written made it seem like the original belt was modified, while it's actually a new copy of the belt. Just thought it could use a rewrite for clarity and accuracy. oknazevad 06:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The original Big Gold Belt is in the hands of Scott Steiner. When Steiner was champ, he claimed it was stolen, carried around a Figures Inc. replica for a few weeks, until a new belt was made. Hogan's copy is a cast copy with Jeff Jarrett's name on the main plate. At last count, at least 5 cast copies were made. Other cast copies were made for Kevin Nash & Diamond Dallas Page (Page's being # 5). The belt Booker T brought into WWE is not the original like WWE claims, it too is just another cast copy. The current belt is an etched version made by WWE beltmaker Joe "JMAR" Marshall. Hogan claims to have the original, but it's not true. BTW, the original was a gift from Jim Crockett to Ric Flair. MrNWA4Life-4/22/2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.8.197.254 ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
MrNWA4Life is exactly correct. Also, 3bulletproof16 please STOP editing belt pages. I understand you are trying to help, but you are constantly updating pages with incorrect information. Many times you are removing valid facts that can be proven, yet you are editing however you feel free, even going as far as editing anonymously or using other names. Please don't edit belt pages unless you can prove the information you are changing, as well as anyone else editing pages. I do not have time to constantly undo your incorrect edits on every belt page, so if you want proof or verification of information, I would be more than happy to point you to valid, credible sources of facts and information about belts. Feel free to contact me on AIM or YIM under PawNtheSandman -- PT Sandman 02:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
The original NWA bylaws required a deposit not on the title belt, but as a bond to ensure the champion would meet his appearance obligations.
Ric Flair, as a result of his $25,000 deposit, may have believed that he owned the belt, but it likely remained the property of JCP/WCW at that time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.251.93 ( talk) 01:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
The $25,000 deposit covered the original Domed Globe. Flair never got his actual deposit back from the NWA, and he still has the original Domed Globe to this day. The original Big Gold was a gift from Jim Crockett to Flair. Both Nelson Royal and George South confirmed this. Flair essentially sold the belt to WCW for what the cost of his NWA deposit was plus interest in late 1991. MrNWA4Life 06:40 17 March 2009
No discussion required for recent redirect. The "Big Gold Belt" is merely a nickname among fans. WWE, who OWN the belt, refers to it as the "World Heavyweight Championship". Now don't jump the gun, people... yes, this is the name of the championship title, but THE BELT ITSELF is also known as such. The WWE recently released "The History of the World Heavyweight Championship" (with the "Big Gold Belt" used as the sole cover image), which traces its NWA, WCW and WWE history. This is cemented by WWE.com: "The World Heavyweight Championship that has recently been carried by such greats as Batista and Triple H got its start in WWE back in 2002... for years, it was known as the NWA Championship; then when WCW pulled out of the NWA in the early 1990s, Ric Flair was recognized as the first-ever WCW Champion." [3]
Big Gold Belt redirected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KorjokManno ( talk • contribs) 15:47, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
The name "Big Gold Belt" is a nickname given to the original version that Ric Flair wore as the NWA champion. It refers to the actual physical belt, not every copy of similar style all the way up to current times. I think everything that talks about versions of the belt that aren't the original should not be in the article. Like everything past 1994 and the International heavyweight championship should be removed because beyond that point the original physical belt was not used, copies were. All that stuff during the "Monday night wars" where Hogan and the NWO spray painted the belt was a copy and not the original. And any WWF/WWE belts of similar design are copies as well no matter what they say. The belt Flair gave to HHH was a copy as well. They all want to try to make it seem like the current belt used in WWE has some connection to the original but it has none. The Original Big Gold Belt that Ric Flair used as NWA champ was not used past 1994 and the last title it represented was International Heavyweight Title after the NWA and WCW parted ways. Beyond '94 it's all copies and the name "Big Gold Belt" only refers to the original and not every copy for the rest of time. That being said the first picture in this article is incorrect since that is not the original belt (the original didn't have black leathering)Also the original Big Gold Belt had no name plate. Ric Flair's name was etched into the main plate of the actual belt. There was no bolt on name plate as there is in the picture. DingoateMyBabyyy 13:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
--I edited the text of this page, seeing as though the belt in question (or the WWE alternative) is actually defended on Smackdown, as opposed to Raw.
Tenspeeder 01:46, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Not sure if it means much, but Ric Flair said in a episode of WWE Confidential that the belt that WWE has is in fact the original and is not a replica. --- Silent RAGE! 15:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I know the original belt had the top portion of the main plate bent slightly forward. I dont know if this was repaired or not, but the belt currently held by Batista is definitely not the original. MFuture 17:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I reworked the paragraph on the belt's use in WWE. The way it was written made it seem like the original belt was modified, while it's actually a new copy of the belt. Just thought it could use a rewrite for clarity and accuracy. oknazevad 06:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The original Big Gold Belt is in the hands of Scott Steiner. When Steiner was champ, he claimed it was stolen, carried around a Figures Inc. replica for a few weeks, until a new belt was made. Hogan's copy is a cast copy with Jeff Jarrett's name on the main plate. At last count, at least 5 cast copies were made. Other cast copies were made for Kevin Nash & Diamond Dallas Page (Page's being # 5). The belt Booker T brought into WWE is not the original like WWE claims, it too is just another cast copy. The current belt is an etched version made by WWE beltmaker Joe "JMAR" Marshall. Hogan claims to have the original, but it's not true. BTW, the original was a gift from Jim Crockett to Ric Flair. MrNWA4Life-4/22/2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.8.197.254 ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
MrNWA4Life is exactly correct. Also, 3bulletproof16 please STOP editing belt pages. I understand you are trying to help, but you are constantly updating pages with incorrect information. Many times you are removing valid facts that can be proven, yet you are editing however you feel free, even going as far as editing anonymously or using other names. Please don't edit belt pages unless you can prove the information you are changing, as well as anyone else editing pages. I do not have time to constantly undo your incorrect edits on every belt page, so if you want proof or verification of information, I would be more than happy to point you to valid, credible sources of facts and information about belts. Feel free to contact me on AIM or YIM under PawNtheSandman -- PT Sandman 02:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
The original NWA bylaws required a deposit not on the title belt, but as a bond to ensure the champion would meet his appearance obligations.
Ric Flair, as a result of his $25,000 deposit, may have believed that he owned the belt, but it likely remained the property of JCP/WCW at that time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.251.93 ( talk) 01:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
The $25,000 deposit covered the original Domed Globe. Flair never got his actual deposit back from the NWA, and he still has the original Domed Globe to this day. The original Big Gold was a gift from Jim Crockett to Flair. Both Nelson Royal and George South confirmed this. Flair essentially sold the belt to WCW for what the cost of his NWA deposit was plus interest in late 1991. MrNWA4Life 06:40 17 March 2009
No discussion required for recent redirect. The "Big Gold Belt" is merely a nickname among fans. WWE, who OWN the belt, refers to it as the "World Heavyweight Championship". Now don't jump the gun, people... yes, this is the name of the championship title, but THE BELT ITSELF is also known as such. The WWE recently released "The History of the World Heavyweight Championship" (with the "Big Gold Belt" used as the sole cover image), which traces its NWA, WCW and WWE history. This is cemented by WWE.com: "The World Heavyweight Championship that has recently been carried by such greats as Batista and Triple H got its start in WWE back in 2002... for years, it was known as the NWA Championship; then when WCW pulled out of the NWA in the early 1990s, Ric Flair was recognized as the first-ever WCW Champion." [3]
Big Gold Belt redirected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KorjokManno ( talk • contribs) 15:47, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
The name "Big Gold Belt" is a nickname given to the original version that Ric Flair wore as the NWA champion. It refers to the actual physical belt, not every copy of similar style all the way up to current times. I think everything that talks about versions of the belt that aren't the original should not be in the article. Like everything past 1994 and the International heavyweight championship should be removed because beyond that point the original physical belt was not used, copies were. All that stuff during the "Monday night wars" where Hogan and the NWO spray painted the belt was a copy and not the original. And any WWF/WWE belts of similar design are copies as well no matter what they say. The belt Flair gave to HHH was a copy as well. They all want to try to make it seem like the current belt used in WWE has some connection to the original but it has none. The Original Big Gold Belt that Ric Flair used as NWA champ was not used past 1994 and the last title it represented was International Heavyweight Title after the NWA and WCW parted ways. Beyond '94 it's all copies and the name "Big Gold Belt" only refers to the original and not every copy for the rest of time. That being said the first picture in this article is incorrect since that is not the original belt (the original didn't have black leathering)Also the original Big Gold Belt had no name plate. Ric Flair's name was etched into the main plate of the actual belt. There was no bolt on name plate as there is in the picture. DingoateMyBabyyy 13:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)