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ALT1: ... that trombonist Big Chief Russell Moore invited the
Duke and
Duchess of Windsor to see him play on the
Lower East Side? Source: Erwin, Pee Wee; Vaché, Warren W. (1987).
Pee Wee Erwin : this horn for hire. Metuchen, N.J. : Scarecrow Press and the Institute of Jazz Studies, Rutgers University. pp. 267–268. ISBN 978-0-8108-1945-0.
Comment: I may be a couple hours late with the the time deadline. I started expanding this article 7 days ago and only got a chance to finish it and do this today. I ask for a little grace with this and believe I am still in the spirit of the rules.
Comment - Interesting article,
Vladimir.copic. Do you prefer ALT0 over ALT1? If so, I have a question - are members of the
Salt River Pima–Maricopa Indian Community considered Pima? Or are there Pima members in that tribe? I found a
later obituary (2020, after your source) about a Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community enrolled member. That may complicate matters ... I think ALT1 would be more interesting, anyway.
Urve (
talk)
12:51, 31 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks
Urve. I’ve done a bit of reading into this now and I just don’t know enough about the Native American tribal system to say anything for definite. I think if we go with ALt0 it would be safer to say "... the first
Pima tribe member ...”. I like both hooks equally - my only concern was that ALT1 is sourced from an autobiography - I don’t have a problem with this but others might. I’ll leave the choice up to other editors.
Vladimir.copic (
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22:09, 31 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks! Your revision of ALT0 sounds great; I'll edit. It's always a bit tricky to verify these "first" hooks, but after looking through some NYTimes archives, I can't find anything that would disprove it. Your thinking about ALT1 makes a lot of sense; I would prefer ALT0 over that, then. Good luck!
Urve (
talk)
10:21, 1 June 2022 (UTC)reply
"One of the most extraordinary lives in modern Pima history, he is the only tribal member whose death warranted a full obituary in the New York Times".
Urve (
talk)
08:41, 16 June 2022 (UTC)reply
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ALT1: ... that trombonist Big Chief Russell Moore invited the
Duke and
Duchess of Windsor to see him play on the
Lower East Side? Source: Erwin, Pee Wee; Vaché, Warren W. (1987).
Pee Wee Erwin : this horn for hire. Metuchen, N.J. : Scarecrow Press and the Institute of Jazz Studies, Rutgers University. pp. 267–268. ISBN 978-0-8108-1945-0.
Comment: I may be a couple hours late with the the time deadline. I started expanding this article 7 days ago and only got a chance to finish it and do this today. I ask for a little grace with this and believe I am still in the spirit of the rules.
Comment - Interesting article,
Vladimir.copic. Do you prefer ALT0 over ALT1? If so, I have a question - are members of the
Salt River Pima–Maricopa Indian Community considered Pima? Or are there Pima members in that tribe? I found a
later obituary (2020, after your source) about a Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community enrolled member. That may complicate matters ... I think ALT1 would be more interesting, anyway.
Urve (
talk)
12:51, 31 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks
Urve. I’ve done a bit of reading into this now and I just don’t know enough about the Native American tribal system to say anything for definite. I think if we go with ALt0 it would be safer to say "... the first
Pima tribe member ...”. I like both hooks equally - my only concern was that ALT1 is sourced from an autobiography - I don’t have a problem with this but others might. I’ll leave the choice up to other editors.
Vladimir.copic (
talk)
22:09, 31 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks! Your revision of ALT0 sounds great; I'll edit. It's always a bit tricky to verify these "first" hooks, but after looking through some NYTimes archives, I can't find anything that would disprove it. Your thinking about ALT1 makes a lot of sense; I would prefer ALT0 over that, then. Good luck!
Urve (
talk)
10:21, 1 June 2022 (UTC)reply
"One of the most extraordinary lives in modern Pima history, he is the only tribal member whose death warranted a full obituary in the New York Times".
Urve (
talk)
08:41, 16 June 2022 (UTC)reply