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Hi, do we know how many weeks the show will be on for? -- MSalmon ( talk) 21:12, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Please stop posting who is returning. I've already been spoiled idiots. Also, stop spamming the page. Who else thinks this page should be protected? Post Protect It to protect it or Leave it to leave it.
Protect It. DynasticAnthony ( talk) 20:21, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
I remember reading this debate for last season, but I'm going to bring it up this year. The color used to describe the mentors is awful. It doesn't go with the other colors used in the Voting History and infobox. Are there any other suitable options?
The voting table right now looks horrendous I have tried several times to use this version which is much neater that separates the new HouseGuests from the Coaches. I believe that this version should be used instead of the current one which has unnecessary row spans of the word "Coach" across the entire table. It seems that new editors don't want to give the neater table a shot and instead insist on re-instating the other version as seen on page. I am going to try it again but this must be discussed. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 04:00, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, just wondering if Jodi's eviction should be Day 6 or Day 1 (since all the HouseGuests moved on July 7)?
Where are people getting all the nomination info from? The first episode only took place yesterday and people have already noted down the nominees, immunity winner, have nots, and the coach competition (whatever that is). Shouldn't all this be left for when the next episode is aired so it's not all spoilt? Thanks -- Firegazer101 ( talk) 21:25, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
I just noticed veto holder and nominates are updated here. I don't think they should be. It shouldn't be updated here until the episode airs. Statυs ( talk) 22:10, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Because there is Live Feed, the results may be posted here. Keep in mind that the shows are only house highlights of what went on in the House prior; Live Feed is not a spoiler per se. Plus results have always been posted here before the episodes air, and I don't see that it should change for people who only watch the episodes. Jandal3c ( talk) 05:01, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
When did the first nominations ceremony happen, where Willie chose his nominees? Because at the moment we have only got the date of the eviction. Thanks -- 86.169.137.251 ( talk) 09:25, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
The Veto winner can remove someone but the HOH picks a replacement.-- 174.49.176.161 ( talk) 15:04, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
I like the new table regarding whose team the newbies are on! The table does, however, state which coach won the coaches comp. and who they saved, so shouldn't that information be taken out of the voting history chart? I don't want to do it myself and upset anyone, just a suggestion. :) -- Sethjohnson95 ( talk) 14:24, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
I think someone should but the coaches at the start instead of alphabetical order. So the top 4 are the coaches then go alphabetical order for the contestants. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.116.240 ( talk) 02:59, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
The voting history table is a mess! We need to clear it up! And do we seriously need the have-nots row there? what's that got to do with the voting process! -- Firegazer104 ( talk) 03:17, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Current table:
Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Eviction votes received | ||||
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Day 1 | Day 5 | Finale | ||||||||||||
Head of Household |
(none) | Willie | Frank | (none) | ||||||||||
Nominations (pre-veto) |
Frank Kara |
JoJo Shane |
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Veto Winner | Shane | Shane | (none) | |||||||||||
Nominations (post-veto) |
Frank Kara |
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Ashley | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Danielle | Nominated | Frank | ||||||||||||
Frank | Not eligible |
Nominated | Head of Household | 3 | ||||||||||
Ian | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Jenn | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Joe | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
JoJo | Not eligible |
Frank | Nominated | |||||||||||
Shane | Not eligible |
Frank | Nominated | |||||||||||
Wil | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Willie | Not eligible |
Head of Household |
Expelled (Day 14) |
0 | ||||||||||
Kara | Nominated | Nominated | Evicted (Day 13) |
5 | ||||||||||
Jodi | Nominated | Evicted (Day 1) |
1 | |||||||||||
Coach's Competition | (none) | Mike | Janelle | (none) | ||||||||||
Coach's Decision | Ian Immunity |
Ashley Immunity |
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Britney | Not eligible |
Shane Have Not |
Not eligible |
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Dan | Jodi to evict |
Danielle Have Not |
Not eligible |
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Janelle | Not eligible |
Ashley Have Not |
Ian, JoJo, Shane, Willie Have Not |
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Mike | Not eligible |
Ian Have Not |
Not eligible |
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Notes | 1 | 2 | 3, 4 | |||||||||||
Have Nots | (none) | Ashley, Danielle, Ian, Shane |
Ian, JoJo, Shane, |
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Expelled | none | Willie | ||||||||||||
Evicted | Jodi Dan's choice to evict |
Kara 5 of 8 votes to evict |
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^Note 1 : As coach of the last-place team in the first Head of Household competition, Dan had to evict one member of his team.
^Note 2 : Each coach had to choose one of their own players to be a Have Not for the week.
^Note 3 : As the winner of the Coach's Competition, Janelle picked four players to be the Have Nots for the week.
^Note 4 : After a violent outburst, Willie was expelled from the game by Big Brother on Day 14. Big Brother decided to allow nominations to continue on as normal.
Proposed table:
Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Eviction votes received | ||||
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Day 1 | Day 5 | Finale | ||||||||||||
Head of Household |
(none) | Willie | Frank | (none) | ||||||||||
Nominations (pre-veto) |
Frank Kara |
JoJo Shane |
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Veto Winner | Shane | Shane | (none) | |||||||||||
Nominations (post-veto) |
Frank Kara |
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Ashley | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Danielle | Nominated | Frank | ||||||||||||
Frank | Not eligible |
Nominated | Head of Household | 3 | ||||||||||
Ian | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Jenn | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Joe | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
JoJo | Not eligible |
Frank | Nominated | |||||||||||
Shane | Not eligible |
Frank | Nominated | |||||||||||
Wil | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Willie | Not eligible |
Head of Household |
Expelled (Day 14) |
0 | ||||||||||
Kara | Nominated | Nominated | Evicted (Day 13) |
5 | ||||||||||
Jodi | Nominated | Evicted (Day 1) |
1 | |||||||||||
Britney | Not eligible |
Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Dan | Jodi | Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Janelle | Not eligible |
Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Mike | Not eligible |
Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Notes | 1 | 2, 3 | 2, 4, 5 | |||||||||||
Have Nots | (none) | Ashley, Danielle, Ian, Shane |
Ian, JoJo, Shane, |
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Expelled | none | Willie | ||||||||||||
Evicted | Jodi Dan's choice to evict |
Kara 5 of 8 votes to evict |
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^Note 1 : As coach of the last-place team in the first Head of Household competition, Dan had to evict one member of his team.
^Note 2 : The winner of the Coach's Competition chose to give one of his or her players immunity for the week.
^Note 3 : Each coach had to choose one of their own players to be a Have Not for the week.
^Note 4 : As the winner of the Coach's Competition, Janelle picked four players to be the Have Nots for the week.
^Note 5 : After a violent outburst, Willie was expelled from the game by Big Brother on Day 14. Big Brother decided to allow nominations to continue on as normal.
The current table does not explain what the yellow box is for (who was immune due to the Coach's Competition.) Yellow boxes marking immunity have been explained in the Notes section of the voting history table in Big Brother
8,
11, and
12, so an explanation should be mentioned in the notes as is precedent. Else, we have yellow boxes with no explanation of why they are yellow.
The Coach's Competition row in the current table says who won the Coach's Competition that week. The Coach's Decision row shows who the coach chose to make immune from the vote for that week. All of the information in both of the rows can be inferred by the yellow box (which shows who was chosen to be immune) and the color next to the player's name who was immune (to show which coach was able to choose that week). The note in the proposed table ("The winner of the Coach's Competition chose to give one of his or her players immunity for the week.") also helps clarify this information. Having two extra rows discussing Coach's (Coaches'?) Competition winners in the table labeled "Voting history" is redundant.
In the current table, there are notes that explains how the Have Nots were chosen in Week 1 ("Each coach had to choose one of their own players to be a Have Not for the week.") and in Week 2 ("As the winner of the Coach's Competition, Janelle picked four players to be the Have Nots for the week."). There is also a row for Have Nots with the names of who was chosen as a Have Not. These pieces of information tell us who chose who to be a Have Not, and who was a Have Not (as is precedent from previous U.S. Big Brother Wikipedia articles.) Yet in the current table, the information is once again presented in the form of a Coach voting one of his or her players as a Have Not. Again, this information is redundant. In the proposed table, no information next to the Coaches' names is given about who they chose to be a Have Not for the week. The only information given next to a Coach's name is who he or she voted for, which in this case, only Dan cast a vote to evict someone (Jodi) on Day 1. This is also a Voting history table with the word "Voting" implying "Voting for eviction."
Please take this information into consideration. My IP was blocked due to a 3 reversion rule, but I believe the reversions were unjust. I was correcting redundant information in the Voting history table as per precedent in previous Big Brother seasons, as well as within Wikipedia standards. Those who reverted the information did not discuss any reason for reversions in the Talk page, while I made sure to discuss the edits every time before making them. No hard feelings. I'm trying to make this voting chart concise as well as match previous seasons' charts. FBISD ( talk) 00:48, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Let's try this version:
Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Eviction votes received | ||||
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Day 1 | Day 5 | Finale | ||||||||||||
Head of Household |
(none) | Willie | Frank | (none) | ||||||||||
Nominations (pre-veto) |
Frank Kara |
JoJo Shane |
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Veto Winner | Shane | Shane | (none) | |||||||||||
Nominations (post-veto) |
Frank Kara |
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Ashley | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Danielle | Nominated | Frank | ||||||||||||
Frank | Not eligible |
Nominated | Head of Household | 3 | ||||||||||
Ian | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Jenn | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Joe | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
JoJo | Not eligible |
Frank | Nominated | |||||||||||
Shane | Not eligible |
Frank | Nominated | |||||||||||
Wil | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Willie | Not eligible |
Head of Household |
Expelled (Day 14) |
0 | ||||||||||
Kara | Nominated | Nominated | Evicted (Day 13) |
5 | ||||||||||
Jodi | Nominated | Evicted (Day 1) |
1 | |||||||||||
Coaches' Competition | (none) | Mike | Janelle | (none) | ||||||||||
Britney | Not eligible |
Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Dan | Jodi to evict |
Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Janelle | Not eligible |
Not eligible |
Ashley to save |
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Mike | Not eligible |
Ian to save |
Not eligible |
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Notes | 1 | 2, 3 | 2, 4, 5 | |||||||||||
Have Nots | (none) | Ashley, Danielle, Ian, Shane |
Ian, JoJo, Shane, |
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Expelled | none | Willie | ||||||||||||
Evicted | Jodi Dan's choice to evict |
Kara 5 of 8 votes to evict |
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^Note 1 : As coach of the last-place team in the first Head of Household competition, Dan had to evict one member of his team.
^Note 2 : Each week the coaches participate in a competition and is given the power to save one of their players from nominations.
^Note 3 : Each coach had to choose one of their own players to be a Have Not for the week.
^Note 4 : As the winner of the Coach's Competition, Janelle picked four players to be the Have Nots for the week.
^Note 5 : After a violent outburst, Willie was expelled from the game by Big Brother on Day 14. Big Brother decided to allow nominations to continue on as normal.
This version reduces the amount of duplicate information but retains the key parts of the other table. With the coaches there should be an indicator as to what kind of power that coach held that week since in Week 2 Janelle could have swapped a player for another. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 03:41, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Proposed Change:
Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Eviction votes received | ||||
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Day 1 | Day 5 | Finale | ||||||||||||
Coach's Competition |
(none) | Mike | Janelle | (none) | ||||||||||
Britney | Willie for HoH |
Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Dan | Jodi to evict |
Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Janelle | Not eligible |
Not eligible |
Ashley to save |
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Mike | Not eligible |
Ian to save |
Not eligible |
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Notes | 1 | 2 | 3, 4 | |||||||||||
Have Nots | (none) | Ashley | Ian | |||||||||||
Danielle | JoJo | |||||||||||||
Ian | Shane | |||||||||||||
Shane | ||||||||||||||
Expelled | none | Willie | ||||||||||||
Evicted | Jodi Dan's choice to evict |
Kara 5 of 8 votes to evict |
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Notes
Each week the coaches participate in a competition and is given the power to save one of their players from nominations.
^Note 1 : As coach of the first place team, Britney had to chose which one of her players would be the first Head of Household. While the coach of the last-place team in the first Head of Household competition, Dan had to evict one member of his team.
^Note 2 : After a violent outburst, Willie was expelled from the game by Big Brother on Day 14. Big Brother decided to allow nominations to continue on as normal.
Hello, I was wondering if we could find a way to color code the names of the Have Nots as above so that it is easier to know which coach put up which player. Currently, as I just found out recently, there is a small note that talk about how they were put up and who did it, but it causes some backtracking to find out who was the coach of X player for week 2, along with some other issues. Granted, the above has an issue with the color used for the team of Janelle so for now does anyone hae any opinions as to something similar to this idea? 204.106.251.214 ( talk) 19:28, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi everyone. I'm new to wiki-editing but not at all new to the online BB community. As a designer, the voting chart for this season (though much improved from where it started a few weeks ago) still seems really crowded. I think we could be much more economical with it if we got rid of the repetitive "not eligible" cells and just noted that gray = not eligible. The only place this wouldn't work would be on week 3's "nominations void" cells. However, I think we could also make those cells gray (meaning "not eligible" by the key i'm proposing) and change Frank/Joe's cells to say "nominations void" (with the "nominated" background color remaining the same). Hopefully this makes sense. ♪♫Al ucard, you are the expert – what do you think?! Iceynoah ( talk) 23:23, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
What does the 2 refer to next to Jenn's name in the finale column? Is it supposed to be in the votes received column? Robinrobin ( talk) 20:23, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Why do we need a competition chart when all of that information is stated in the summary? -- Sethjohnson95 ( talk) 23:00, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
It is way more readable than the summary, and it shows all the players that participate in each comp. Think we should improve them sections.-- 187.65.12.19 ( talk) 04:57, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
I think there should be a different color for the winner of the coach competition. 99.45.166.113 ( talk) 07:38, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
The current voting history chart lists the second entry for week 1 as Day 5. Where does this number come from? It seems arbitrary to me. Willie was crowned HOH on day 1, before Jodi left the house, and the actual voting and eviction took place on Day 13. I think listing it as day 13 would make more sense, considering this is the day the actual voting took place. (Of course, there might be some sort of precedent at work, here, which is why I'm asking for a rationale behind the decision to list it as day 5.) -- LeoChris ( talk) 22:29, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Do we seriously need the Have-nots on the 'VOTING HISTORY' table? It has nothing to do with voting whatsoever and therefore should not be there. Thanks -- 2.222.115.96 ( talk) 23:47, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
I propose we change the colors for the list of contestants for the "Nominated" and "Head of Household" sections. The colors chosen are way too similar. It's very hard to distinguish between the two. Here is the current list with the current colors. I'm proposing #75B2DD or #7FFFD4. Tcatron565 ( talk) 23:04, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
i agree i was coming here to post a comment about the colors being similar for HoH and nominated so i support the change suggested. Smith03 ( talk) 16:31, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Someone keeps saying that Britney won a Coaches Comp during the first night, it wasn't a Coaches Competition it was an HOH Competition so it should be listed as none. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.82.148 ( talk) 22:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Right now the table says that the coaches entered on day 1. I think that it should change to day 27 when America/the coaches voted to enter the game as players. Does anyone else agree? Behun ( talk) 23:27, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
they have not had nominations yet on the feeds. all that has said is that is who he is most likely putting up. mike and frank have not been put on the block yet. Pieniazek666 ( talk) 16:18, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
I am watching Big Brother page because lately I've been seeing nomination has been wrong as of right now 2:44 mst, Pov is going on according to Big Brother Buddy who that guy or girl always watch show online when things goes on no matter what time it is and keep us update 24/7 He told me its going on now, so nominations shouldn't even been changed yet. So whoever is changing the nominations for some reason please stop unless its right. From 4:20-4:50 mst, I've been editing this section because people that been doing that, is giving false info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patriciasigmond ( talk • contribs) 20:46, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Since BB11-BB14 have a Have-Nots section in the Voting table, why dont the other seasons have a "On Slop" section? 108.21.234.146 ( talk) 23:56, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Whoever is saying Dan is being a have not, because of frank, where did you get that from because I am looking at two different fan sites and both haven't say anything about anyone being a have not, and one of them does tells us who is a have not or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.87.110 ( talk) 17:46, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone know when the official ratings will be coming out? -- MSalmon ( talk) 20:58, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
I've been a user on Wikipedia for five-and-a-half years, and I've never seen anyone get away with using blogs, fan sites, forums, or YouTube as reliable sources. Especially for something as controversial as a possibly rigged/manipulated reality show. I'm not passing judgment on whether or not it is in fact being manipulated by the production staff, but could we at least find better sources, such as a major third-party news source, a la the Associated Press. If these allegations are real (by that I mean the actual controversy section, not the veracity of said allegations), then I'm sure that you can find acceptable sources somewhere. - happy 5214 08:23, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Frank actually won $1.05, $7.11, and $3,333, for a total of $3,341.16. The article says he won $3,000, which is not accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.66.89.192 ( talk) 16:58, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
I've always been bothered by the inclucsion of the "Have Nots" in the nominations table, it doesn't affect the game at all. If every little detail should be addled then there's A LOT that is missing from that table.
I don't understand why people have put Ian's "Golden Veto Ball" or whatever that thing is called. It doesn't affect the way the voting works. In fact, if you guys are going to make a super special thing out of who plays in the veto and who doesn't, then I think you should actually give each and every table the names of the players. But I think that's kinda useless isn't? It's useless information, Weekly Summary is where that info belongs, not on the Voting History. -- BigOz22 ( talk) 22:25, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
It has nothing to do with voting -- RachelRice ( talk) 13:04, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
A new paragraph for the Summary for later: (Later on Day 55/After the eviction), the houseguests competed in the next Head of Household Competition. The houseGuest had to hold onto a rope as they were rotated in the air around a sun. The last houseguest to fall off of their rope would win. There were also a punishment as decided by the viewers voting between either the punishment or a reward on Twitter. (HouseGuest) was eliminated first and received a special punishment and (HouseGuest) won their (Number) HoH competition and became the new Head of Household. Super Goku V ( talk) 01:56, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Would someone please delete the line that this is the first season to have multiple double evictions in the same season? Both 6 and 7 had two double evictions. Stjimmy61892 ( talk) 04:11, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
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Allison Grodner is rigging this for Frank, this should be added somewhere in the page. 82.135.153.237 ( talk) 05:58, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Ian stated multiple times that the producers didn't want Ian to use the veto. That they would ask how would using the Ball of Veto benefit him [Ian]. The way it reads now, it sounds like the producers were trying to push Ian into using it, which is mistaken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.59.37.123 ( talk) 13:29, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
This has been bothering me for a while, and since the protection prevents me from fixing it, I ask someone else do it. The sentence, "On Day 62, yet another double eviction will occur, making this the first time that two double evictions will occur within the same season since Big Brother 7" is false. There have been two double evictions in Big Brother 6, 7, 10, and 13. The correct information would be to state that this is the first time two "one-hour" double evictions will occur in a season, since Big Brother: All Stars only had one "one-hour" double eviction. Please fix this error. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.11.219.83 ( talk) 21:36, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
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It should say that this is the first time that more than one double eviction has occurred in the same season, not two. 98.30.11.207 ( talk) 03:57, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Why keep removing the jury members from the infobox? They are jury members and should be noted as such. DynasticAnthony ( talk) 19:04, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Jury members are not listed in the infobox. It doesn't matter if you can't tell them apart from non-jury members. We never list every single thing happening in the game in the infobox, that's what the voting history table is for. Please stop adding them and causing an edit war when this issue hasn't even been resolved yet. You will be reported for disruptive editing. I'm only following guidelines here yet you people keep breaking them. CloudKade11 ( talk) 00:26, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
I can get why some people assume Week 1 was a Double Eviction, but seeing as how there were nearly two weeks between Jodi and Kara's evictions, should that really be considered a Double Eviction? -- Sethjohnson95
Dan's and Ian's names have been switched in the voting table, and colors have been changed. This could be fixed by undoing the edit at 23:28, 13 September 2012 by Thechrisgriffin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.239.134.28 ( talk)
The table current lists "none" for both the HOH and nominations columns of Day 1. Shouldn't Willie be listed as HOH, though? He obtained the title before Jodi was voted out by Dan, this is different from, say, BB9's Power Couple. There, the HOH competition happened AFTER Jacob and Sharon's eviction. Furthermore, since the actual table's rows list Jodi, Kara and Danielle as being nominated shouldn't they also be listed as being nominated? It's a de-facto nomination, but it's not different than 2 HGs being nominated at the final 3. -- LeoChris ( talk) 21:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
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Willie was evicted on day 16 NOT 14. JohnF119 ( talk) 01:09, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
People keep undoing edits made that Danielle is Nominated. Only one person put a reason and said "not getting in the final round of the final HOH comp does not mean you are nominated for eviction." If you don't make it to the third part how does it not mean you up for nomination? The following people undid the edits; User:TwilightFanx23 , User:Singularity42. User:12zaPziP and myself added Danielle being nominated only to have it undone. CCamp2013 ( talk) 00:35, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
I agree that Danielle should be listed as a nominee. She can't win hoh. She is/will be a nominee barring some unforeseen event like the house blowing up. Those types of unforeseen events could happen any week and we still always list the nominees in those weeks. The final week shouldn't be any different. 98.122.21.13 ( talk) 00:52, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm unsure why the dates in the main table are being reverted back to fabricated dates. I believe the first incorrect dates were created by 2a02:c7d:6091:b200:bd57:6c17:b71a:9f4a here, were later changed to another set of incorrect dates by 2a02:c7d:6091:b200:3de4:5532:99db:bfb0 here, and then changed back to the original incorrect dates by Davey2010 here. I have no idea where these fake dates are coming from, but according to the rest of the article, the voting table, three independent update sites, the episodes, and what actually happened, there were 75 days in Season 14. Davey2010 has twice more reverted my edits tonight back to the fabricated dates. I am going to change them to the correct dates one more time, with a note to discuss any further changes here on the talk page. -- FBISD ( talk) 02:47, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, do we know how many weeks the show will be on for? -- MSalmon ( talk) 21:12, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Please stop posting who is returning. I've already been spoiled idiots. Also, stop spamming the page. Who else thinks this page should be protected? Post Protect It to protect it or Leave it to leave it.
Protect It. DynasticAnthony ( talk) 20:21, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
I remember reading this debate for last season, but I'm going to bring it up this year. The color used to describe the mentors is awful. It doesn't go with the other colors used in the Voting History and infobox. Are there any other suitable options?
The voting table right now looks horrendous I have tried several times to use this version which is much neater that separates the new HouseGuests from the Coaches. I believe that this version should be used instead of the current one which has unnecessary row spans of the word "Coach" across the entire table. It seems that new editors don't want to give the neater table a shot and instead insist on re-instating the other version as seen on page. I am going to try it again but this must be discussed. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 04:00, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, just wondering if Jodi's eviction should be Day 6 or Day 1 (since all the HouseGuests moved on July 7)?
Where are people getting all the nomination info from? The first episode only took place yesterday and people have already noted down the nominees, immunity winner, have nots, and the coach competition (whatever that is). Shouldn't all this be left for when the next episode is aired so it's not all spoilt? Thanks -- Firegazer101 ( talk) 21:25, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
I just noticed veto holder and nominates are updated here. I don't think they should be. It shouldn't be updated here until the episode airs. Statυs ( talk) 22:10, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Because there is Live Feed, the results may be posted here. Keep in mind that the shows are only house highlights of what went on in the House prior; Live Feed is not a spoiler per se. Plus results have always been posted here before the episodes air, and I don't see that it should change for people who only watch the episodes. Jandal3c ( talk) 05:01, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
When did the first nominations ceremony happen, where Willie chose his nominees? Because at the moment we have only got the date of the eviction. Thanks -- 86.169.137.251 ( talk) 09:25, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
The Veto winner can remove someone but the HOH picks a replacement.-- 174.49.176.161 ( talk) 15:04, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
I like the new table regarding whose team the newbies are on! The table does, however, state which coach won the coaches comp. and who they saved, so shouldn't that information be taken out of the voting history chart? I don't want to do it myself and upset anyone, just a suggestion. :) -- Sethjohnson95 ( talk) 14:24, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
I think someone should but the coaches at the start instead of alphabetical order. So the top 4 are the coaches then go alphabetical order for the contestants. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.116.240 ( talk) 02:59, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
The voting history table is a mess! We need to clear it up! And do we seriously need the have-nots row there? what's that got to do with the voting process! -- Firegazer104 ( talk) 03:17, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Current table:
Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Eviction votes received | ||||
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Day 1 | Day 5 | Finale | ||||||||||||
Head of Household |
(none) | Willie | Frank | (none) | ||||||||||
Nominations (pre-veto) |
Frank Kara |
JoJo Shane |
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Veto Winner | Shane | Shane | (none) | |||||||||||
Nominations (post-veto) |
Frank Kara |
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Ashley | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Danielle | Nominated | Frank | ||||||||||||
Frank | Not eligible |
Nominated | Head of Household | 3 | ||||||||||
Ian | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Jenn | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Joe | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
JoJo | Not eligible |
Frank | Nominated | |||||||||||
Shane | Not eligible |
Frank | Nominated | |||||||||||
Wil | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Willie | Not eligible |
Head of Household |
Expelled (Day 14) |
0 | ||||||||||
Kara | Nominated | Nominated | Evicted (Day 13) |
5 | ||||||||||
Jodi | Nominated | Evicted (Day 1) |
1 | |||||||||||
Coach's Competition | (none) | Mike | Janelle | (none) | ||||||||||
Coach's Decision | Ian Immunity |
Ashley Immunity |
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Britney | Not eligible |
Shane Have Not |
Not eligible |
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Dan | Jodi to evict |
Danielle Have Not |
Not eligible |
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Janelle | Not eligible |
Ashley Have Not |
Ian, JoJo, Shane, Willie Have Not |
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Mike | Not eligible |
Ian Have Not |
Not eligible |
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Notes | 1 | 2 | 3, 4 | |||||||||||
Have Nots | (none) | Ashley, Danielle, Ian, Shane |
Ian, JoJo, Shane, |
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Expelled | none | Willie | ||||||||||||
Evicted | Jodi Dan's choice to evict |
Kara 5 of 8 votes to evict |
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^Note 1 : As coach of the last-place team in the first Head of Household competition, Dan had to evict one member of his team.
^Note 2 : Each coach had to choose one of their own players to be a Have Not for the week.
^Note 3 : As the winner of the Coach's Competition, Janelle picked four players to be the Have Nots for the week.
^Note 4 : After a violent outburst, Willie was expelled from the game by Big Brother on Day 14. Big Brother decided to allow nominations to continue on as normal.
Proposed table:
Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Eviction votes received | ||||
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Day 1 | Day 5 | Finale | ||||||||||||
Head of Household |
(none) | Willie | Frank | (none) | ||||||||||
Nominations (pre-veto) |
Frank Kara |
JoJo Shane |
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Veto Winner | Shane | Shane | (none) | |||||||||||
Nominations (post-veto) |
Frank Kara |
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Ashley | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Danielle | Nominated | Frank | ||||||||||||
Frank | Not eligible |
Nominated | Head of Household | 3 | ||||||||||
Ian | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Jenn | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Joe | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
JoJo | Not eligible |
Frank | Nominated | |||||||||||
Shane | Not eligible |
Frank | Nominated | |||||||||||
Wil | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Willie | Not eligible |
Head of Household |
Expelled (Day 14) |
0 | ||||||||||
Kara | Nominated | Nominated | Evicted (Day 13) |
5 | ||||||||||
Jodi | Nominated | Evicted (Day 1) |
1 | |||||||||||
Britney | Not eligible |
Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Dan | Jodi | Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Janelle | Not eligible |
Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Mike | Not eligible |
Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Notes | 1 | 2, 3 | 2, 4, 5 | |||||||||||
Have Nots | (none) | Ashley, Danielle, Ian, Shane |
Ian, JoJo, Shane, |
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Expelled | none | Willie | ||||||||||||
Evicted | Jodi Dan's choice to evict |
Kara 5 of 8 votes to evict |
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^Note 1 : As coach of the last-place team in the first Head of Household competition, Dan had to evict one member of his team.
^Note 2 : The winner of the Coach's Competition chose to give one of his or her players immunity for the week.
^Note 3 : Each coach had to choose one of their own players to be a Have Not for the week.
^Note 4 : As the winner of the Coach's Competition, Janelle picked four players to be the Have Nots for the week.
^Note 5 : After a violent outburst, Willie was expelled from the game by Big Brother on Day 14. Big Brother decided to allow nominations to continue on as normal.
The current table does not explain what the yellow box is for (who was immune due to the Coach's Competition.) Yellow boxes marking immunity have been explained in the Notes section of the voting history table in Big Brother
8,
11, and
12, so an explanation should be mentioned in the notes as is precedent. Else, we have yellow boxes with no explanation of why they are yellow.
The Coach's Competition row in the current table says who won the Coach's Competition that week. The Coach's Decision row shows who the coach chose to make immune from the vote for that week. All of the information in both of the rows can be inferred by the yellow box (which shows who was chosen to be immune) and the color next to the player's name who was immune (to show which coach was able to choose that week). The note in the proposed table ("The winner of the Coach's Competition chose to give one of his or her players immunity for the week.") also helps clarify this information. Having two extra rows discussing Coach's (Coaches'?) Competition winners in the table labeled "Voting history" is redundant.
In the current table, there are notes that explains how the Have Nots were chosen in Week 1 ("Each coach had to choose one of their own players to be a Have Not for the week.") and in Week 2 ("As the winner of the Coach's Competition, Janelle picked four players to be the Have Nots for the week."). There is also a row for Have Nots with the names of who was chosen as a Have Not. These pieces of information tell us who chose who to be a Have Not, and who was a Have Not (as is precedent from previous U.S. Big Brother Wikipedia articles.) Yet in the current table, the information is once again presented in the form of a Coach voting one of his or her players as a Have Not. Again, this information is redundant. In the proposed table, no information next to the Coaches' names is given about who they chose to be a Have Not for the week. The only information given next to a Coach's name is who he or she voted for, which in this case, only Dan cast a vote to evict someone (Jodi) on Day 1. This is also a Voting history table with the word "Voting" implying "Voting for eviction."
Please take this information into consideration. My IP was blocked due to a 3 reversion rule, but I believe the reversions were unjust. I was correcting redundant information in the Voting history table as per precedent in previous Big Brother seasons, as well as within Wikipedia standards. Those who reverted the information did not discuss any reason for reversions in the Talk page, while I made sure to discuss the edits every time before making them. No hard feelings. I'm trying to make this voting chart concise as well as match previous seasons' charts. FBISD ( talk) 00:48, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Let's try this version:
Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Eviction votes received | ||||
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Day 1 | Day 5 | Finale | ||||||||||||
Head of Household |
(none) | Willie | Frank | (none) | ||||||||||
Nominations (pre-veto) |
Frank Kara |
JoJo Shane |
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Veto Winner | Shane | Shane | (none) | |||||||||||
Nominations (post-veto) |
Frank Kara |
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Ashley | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Danielle | Nominated | Frank | ||||||||||||
Frank | Not eligible |
Nominated | Head of Household | 3 | ||||||||||
Ian | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Jenn | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Joe | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
JoJo | Not eligible |
Frank | Nominated | |||||||||||
Shane | Not eligible |
Frank | Nominated | |||||||||||
Wil | Not eligible |
Kara | ||||||||||||
Willie | Not eligible |
Head of Household |
Expelled (Day 14) |
0 | ||||||||||
Kara | Nominated | Nominated | Evicted (Day 13) |
5 | ||||||||||
Jodi | Nominated | Evicted (Day 1) |
1 | |||||||||||
Coaches' Competition | (none) | Mike | Janelle | (none) | ||||||||||
Britney | Not eligible |
Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Dan | Jodi to evict |
Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Janelle | Not eligible |
Not eligible |
Ashley to save |
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Mike | Not eligible |
Ian to save |
Not eligible |
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Notes | 1 | 2, 3 | 2, 4, 5 | |||||||||||
Have Nots | (none) | Ashley, Danielle, Ian, Shane |
Ian, JoJo, Shane, |
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Expelled | none | Willie | ||||||||||||
Evicted | Jodi Dan's choice to evict |
Kara 5 of 8 votes to evict |
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^Note 1 : As coach of the last-place team in the first Head of Household competition, Dan had to evict one member of his team.
^Note 2 : Each week the coaches participate in a competition and is given the power to save one of their players from nominations.
^Note 3 : Each coach had to choose one of their own players to be a Have Not for the week.
^Note 4 : As the winner of the Coach's Competition, Janelle picked four players to be the Have Nots for the week.
^Note 5 : After a violent outburst, Willie was expelled from the game by Big Brother on Day 14. Big Brother decided to allow nominations to continue on as normal.
This version reduces the amount of duplicate information but retains the key parts of the other table. With the coaches there should be an indicator as to what kind of power that coach held that week since in Week 2 Janelle could have swapped a player for another. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 03:41, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Proposed Change:
Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Eviction votes received | ||||
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Day 1 | Day 5 | Finale | ||||||||||||
Coach's Competition |
(none) | Mike | Janelle | (none) | ||||||||||
Britney | Willie for HoH |
Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Dan | Jodi to evict |
Not eligible |
Not eligible |
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Janelle | Not eligible |
Not eligible |
Ashley to save |
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Mike | Not eligible |
Ian to save |
Not eligible |
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Notes | 1 | 2 | 3, 4 | |||||||||||
Have Nots | (none) | Ashley | Ian | |||||||||||
Danielle | JoJo | |||||||||||||
Ian | Shane | |||||||||||||
Shane | ||||||||||||||
Expelled | none | Willie | ||||||||||||
Evicted | Jodi Dan's choice to evict |
Kara 5 of 8 votes to evict |
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Notes
Each week the coaches participate in a competition and is given the power to save one of their players from nominations.
^Note 1 : As coach of the first place team, Britney had to chose which one of her players would be the first Head of Household. While the coach of the last-place team in the first Head of Household competition, Dan had to evict one member of his team.
^Note 2 : After a violent outburst, Willie was expelled from the game by Big Brother on Day 14. Big Brother decided to allow nominations to continue on as normal.
Hello, I was wondering if we could find a way to color code the names of the Have Nots as above so that it is easier to know which coach put up which player. Currently, as I just found out recently, there is a small note that talk about how they were put up and who did it, but it causes some backtracking to find out who was the coach of X player for week 2, along with some other issues. Granted, the above has an issue with the color used for the team of Janelle so for now does anyone hae any opinions as to something similar to this idea? 204.106.251.214 ( talk) 19:28, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi everyone. I'm new to wiki-editing but not at all new to the online BB community. As a designer, the voting chart for this season (though much improved from where it started a few weeks ago) still seems really crowded. I think we could be much more economical with it if we got rid of the repetitive "not eligible" cells and just noted that gray = not eligible. The only place this wouldn't work would be on week 3's "nominations void" cells. However, I think we could also make those cells gray (meaning "not eligible" by the key i'm proposing) and change Frank/Joe's cells to say "nominations void" (with the "nominated" background color remaining the same). Hopefully this makes sense. ♪♫Al ucard, you are the expert – what do you think?! Iceynoah ( talk) 23:23, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
What does the 2 refer to next to Jenn's name in the finale column? Is it supposed to be in the votes received column? Robinrobin ( talk) 20:23, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Why do we need a competition chart when all of that information is stated in the summary? -- Sethjohnson95 ( talk) 23:00, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
It is way more readable than the summary, and it shows all the players that participate in each comp. Think we should improve them sections.-- 187.65.12.19 ( talk) 04:57, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
I think there should be a different color for the winner of the coach competition. 99.45.166.113 ( talk) 07:38, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
The current voting history chart lists the second entry for week 1 as Day 5. Where does this number come from? It seems arbitrary to me. Willie was crowned HOH on day 1, before Jodi left the house, and the actual voting and eviction took place on Day 13. I think listing it as day 13 would make more sense, considering this is the day the actual voting took place. (Of course, there might be some sort of precedent at work, here, which is why I'm asking for a rationale behind the decision to list it as day 5.) -- LeoChris ( talk) 22:29, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Do we seriously need the Have-nots on the 'VOTING HISTORY' table? It has nothing to do with voting whatsoever and therefore should not be there. Thanks -- 2.222.115.96 ( talk) 23:47, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
I propose we change the colors for the list of contestants for the "Nominated" and "Head of Household" sections. The colors chosen are way too similar. It's very hard to distinguish between the two. Here is the current list with the current colors. I'm proposing #75B2DD or #7FFFD4. Tcatron565 ( talk) 23:04, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
i agree i was coming here to post a comment about the colors being similar for HoH and nominated so i support the change suggested. Smith03 ( talk) 16:31, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Someone keeps saying that Britney won a Coaches Comp during the first night, it wasn't a Coaches Competition it was an HOH Competition so it should be listed as none. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.82.148 ( talk) 22:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Right now the table says that the coaches entered on day 1. I think that it should change to day 27 when America/the coaches voted to enter the game as players. Does anyone else agree? Behun ( talk) 23:27, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
they have not had nominations yet on the feeds. all that has said is that is who he is most likely putting up. mike and frank have not been put on the block yet. Pieniazek666 ( talk) 16:18, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
I am watching Big Brother page because lately I've been seeing nomination has been wrong as of right now 2:44 mst, Pov is going on according to Big Brother Buddy who that guy or girl always watch show online when things goes on no matter what time it is and keep us update 24/7 He told me its going on now, so nominations shouldn't even been changed yet. So whoever is changing the nominations for some reason please stop unless its right. From 4:20-4:50 mst, I've been editing this section because people that been doing that, is giving false info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patriciasigmond ( talk • contribs) 20:46, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Since BB11-BB14 have a Have-Nots section in the Voting table, why dont the other seasons have a "On Slop" section? 108.21.234.146 ( talk) 23:56, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Whoever is saying Dan is being a have not, because of frank, where did you get that from because I am looking at two different fan sites and both haven't say anything about anyone being a have not, and one of them does tells us who is a have not or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.87.110 ( talk) 17:46, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone know when the official ratings will be coming out? -- MSalmon ( talk) 20:58, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
I've been a user on Wikipedia for five-and-a-half years, and I've never seen anyone get away with using blogs, fan sites, forums, or YouTube as reliable sources. Especially for something as controversial as a possibly rigged/manipulated reality show. I'm not passing judgment on whether or not it is in fact being manipulated by the production staff, but could we at least find better sources, such as a major third-party news source, a la the Associated Press. If these allegations are real (by that I mean the actual controversy section, not the veracity of said allegations), then I'm sure that you can find acceptable sources somewhere. - happy 5214 08:23, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Frank actually won $1.05, $7.11, and $3,333, for a total of $3,341.16. The article says he won $3,000, which is not accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.66.89.192 ( talk) 16:58, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
I've always been bothered by the inclucsion of the "Have Nots" in the nominations table, it doesn't affect the game at all. If every little detail should be addled then there's A LOT that is missing from that table.
I don't understand why people have put Ian's "Golden Veto Ball" or whatever that thing is called. It doesn't affect the way the voting works. In fact, if you guys are going to make a super special thing out of who plays in the veto and who doesn't, then I think you should actually give each and every table the names of the players. But I think that's kinda useless isn't? It's useless information, Weekly Summary is where that info belongs, not on the Voting History. -- BigOz22 ( talk) 22:25, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
It has nothing to do with voting -- RachelRice ( talk) 13:04, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
A new paragraph for the Summary for later: (Later on Day 55/After the eviction), the houseguests competed in the next Head of Household Competition. The houseGuest had to hold onto a rope as they were rotated in the air around a sun. The last houseguest to fall off of their rope would win. There were also a punishment as decided by the viewers voting between either the punishment or a reward on Twitter. (HouseGuest) was eliminated first and received a special punishment and (HouseGuest) won their (Number) HoH competition and became the new Head of Household. Super Goku V ( talk) 01:56, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Would someone please delete the line that this is the first season to have multiple double evictions in the same season? Both 6 and 7 had two double evictions. Stjimmy61892 ( talk) 04:11, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
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Allison Grodner is rigging this for Frank, this should be added somewhere in the page. 82.135.153.237 ( talk) 05:58, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Ian stated multiple times that the producers didn't want Ian to use the veto. That they would ask how would using the Ball of Veto benefit him [Ian]. The way it reads now, it sounds like the producers were trying to push Ian into using it, which is mistaken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.59.37.123 ( talk) 13:29, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
This has been bothering me for a while, and since the protection prevents me from fixing it, I ask someone else do it. The sentence, "On Day 62, yet another double eviction will occur, making this the first time that two double evictions will occur within the same season since Big Brother 7" is false. There have been two double evictions in Big Brother 6, 7, 10, and 13. The correct information would be to state that this is the first time two "one-hour" double evictions will occur in a season, since Big Brother: All Stars only had one "one-hour" double eviction. Please fix this error. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.11.219.83 ( talk) 21:36, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
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It should say that this is the first time that more than one double eviction has occurred in the same season, not two. 98.30.11.207 ( talk) 03:57, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Why keep removing the jury members from the infobox? They are jury members and should be noted as such. DynasticAnthony ( talk) 19:04, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Jury members are not listed in the infobox. It doesn't matter if you can't tell them apart from non-jury members. We never list every single thing happening in the game in the infobox, that's what the voting history table is for. Please stop adding them and causing an edit war when this issue hasn't even been resolved yet. You will be reported for disruptive editing. I'm only following guidelines here yet you people keep breaking them. CloudKade11 ( talk) 00:26, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
I can get why some people assume Week 1 was a Double Eviction, but seeing as how there were nearly two weeks between Jodi and Kara's evictions, should that really be considered a Double Eviction? -- Sethjohnson95
Dan's and Ian's names have been switched in the voting table, and colors have been changed. This could be fixed by undoing the edit at 23:28, 13 September 2012 by Thechrisgriffin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.239.134.28 ( talk)
The table current lists "none" for both the HOH and nominations columns of Day 1. Shouldn't Willie be listed as HOH, though? He obtained the title before Jodi was voted out by Dan, this is different from, say, BB9's Power Couple. There, the HOH competition happened AFTER Jacob and Sharon's eviction. Furthermore, since the actual table's rows list Jodi, Kara and Danielle as being nominated shouldn't they also be listed as being nominated? It's a de-facto nomination, but it's not different than 2 HGs being nominated at the final 3. -- LeoChris ( talk) 21:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
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Willie was evicted on day 16 NOT 14. JohnF119 ( talk) 01:09, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
People keep undoing edits made that Danielle is Nominated. Only one person put a reason and said "not getting in the final round of the final HOH comp does not mean you are nominated for eviction." If you don't make it to the third part how does it not mean you up for nomination? The following people undid the edits; User:TwilightFanx23 , User:Singularity42. User:12zaPziP and myself added Danielle being nominated only to have it undone. CCamp2013 ( talk) 00:35, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
I agree that Danielle should be listed as a nominee. She can't win hoh. She is/will be a nominee barring some unforeseen event like the house blowing up. Those types of unforeseen events could happen any week and we still always list the nominees in those weeks. The final week shouldn't be any different. 98.122.21.13 ( talk) 00:52, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm unsure why the dates in the main table are being reverted back to fabricated dates. I believe the first incorrect dates were created by 2a02:c7d:6091:b200:bd57:6c17:b71a:9f4a here, were later changed to another set of incorrect dates by 2a02:c7d:6091:b200:3de4:5532:99db:bfb0 here, and then changed back to the original incorrect dates by Davey2010 here. I have no idea where these fake dates are coming from, but according to the rest of the article, the voting table, three independent update sites, the episodes, and what actually happened, there were 75 days in Season 14. Davey2010 has twice more reverted my edits tonight back to the fabricated dates. I am going to change them to the correct dates one more time, with a note to discuss any further changes here on the talk page. -- FBISD ( talk) 02:47, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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