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This article is almost entirely speculation. I've added the {{Speculation}} template. If you actually delete the speculation you end up with the following: "Big Brother 2010 is the upcoming eleventh series of the UK reality television series, of Big Brother (UK) and the last to be broadcast on Channel 4." because there might well be a twelfth series on some other channel. That is hardly the basis for an encyclopaedic article. I recommend deletion. MegaPedant ( talk) 02:14, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
The series hasn't been "axed". That suggests cutting a series short, mid-contract. Channel 4 is simply choosing not to renew its contract when the current one expires. Big Brother 2010 will be the last to be broadcast by Channel 4 but that does not preclude some other broadcaster taking up the mantle next year or at some time in the future. Can we please stick to facts and avoid sensationalism and speculation. — Mega Pedant 18:09, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
From the Radio Times summary of the launch program "...some of the prospective housemates won't even make it through the front door. While the chosen ones head into the house for their 15 minutes of fame, with breathless encouragement from Davina McCall, the rest will have to make do with 15 seconds, before being packed off home." Before Wednesday happens it may be worth noting that if the format is as rumoured then only those who are chosen and enter the house should be listed in this article as housemates. Darrenhusted ( talk) 22:37, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi editors last year there were several discussions that affected not only the British articles but overall Big Brother articles including the USA articles. If possible can we try to have these types of discussions on the main WP:BIGBRO project page and/or the task force pages? It would be nice if we could keep discussions regarding major changes on the task force discussion page and larger discussions to the overall project page. Some editors took offense at these types of discussions being regulated to the then-current season/series articles while some attacked other articles for bringing the project down. Last year with a consensus task forces for two of the largest versions of Big Brother were created ( UK task force & USA task force) to handle the respective differences between the two and other versions. If we utilize the project talk page and the respective task force talk page we can collaborate more efficiently and really improve the overall project and avoid the bashing that happened last year. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 10:19, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Copied to Big Brother 12 (U.S.), WP:BIGBRO, UK task force, USA task force
The "house" and "format" parts are written like the season has already finished. just sayin 118.208.140.69 ( talk) 10:56, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
As confirmed by Phil Edgar Jones, Davina McCall etc. There will be an 'ultimate champion' series running for 2 weeks after the conclusion of Big Brother 11. It should definitely be noted somewhere, whether it goes on this page as a section or alongside Teen Big Brother and Celebrity Hijack as a special series. 88.107.77.65 ( talk) 14:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Do we really need full protection? And for an entire week? Sure there will no doubt be a bit of messing around on this article tonight, but this seems really quite excessive. I remember this happened when Michael Jackson died and I'm sure the consensus was that it wasn't the right thing to do. I would have thought just leaving it to the community to undo anything silly would be more than sufficient. Coolug ( talk) 21:05, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
I've created redirects for all the housemates. Feel free to use them - may save typing out the whole "List of..." etc :) Anemone Projectors 10:30, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that some fan websites and gossip blogs are being used to cite information here, such as [1], [2], and [3]. These are not reliable, I'm afraid, and will have to be removed and/or replaced. I should be able to being helping out on this page in about a week. Big Brother 2009 (UK) was of such a terrific standard (I just put it forward for good article level and it passed, the first BBUK piece to do so) and it would be a shame to let that quality slip. KingOfTheMedia ( talk) 14:45, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
I was thinking it might be better to have a page for details of things to be put that have happened in the current day (which haven't had a chance to be shown in an evening episode yet) because in the summary, there's details of day 4 (today), which some people might now want to see before the episode tommorrow, or maybe have a rule that nothing is put into the summary section until the relevant days episode (the episode the day after). Any thoughts on it? Tomdresser27 ( talk) 21:53, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
The nightly BB programme now features a teaser for the following day and the live feed is available for £1.99 a month, plus they have regular new items on the BB site and twitter and youtube pages, anything that could be said to be a spoiler will no longer be a spoiler in less than 24hrs, and BBLB also gives teasers, and by ten on a Friday the house catches up to real time, and the Saturday programme is actually out of date. On top of that SPOILER is clear; don't leave out information because of a fear of "spoiling" something. Darrenhusted ( talk) 19:39, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't really know enough about the current series to do any good editing to this page, but the "Summary" section appears to be turning into a bit of a running commentary of the series. This obviously should be avoided: WP:COMMENTARY. WillDow (Talk) 08:22, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
I have a question: Every year during big brother there is a full report of the tasks, entrances and exits, and happenings in the house. In the summary, it seems to have been halted after day four. Why is no one writing about what tasks have been done that week etc.? I keep coming back to check and there is no news. Mindycl ( talk) 02:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)MindyCL Mindycl ( talk) 02:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
I also have a point, in previous series there has been a table where things that have happened in the day and tasks and everything was neatly set out in a table, could we present this one like that? As I have a feeling most people will not read the massive long text and it would be much easier, however it would be time consuming for the person who has to convert the summary. Could someone do this (possibly?) Jonni_Boi ( Talk) 16:26, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Day | Housemate(s) | Header text |
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1 | On launch night, eighty-one potential housemates stood near the crowd, only thirteen of these would be announced as housemates chosen by big brother | |
1 | Mario | There was a fourteenth housemate set to enter the house, Mario. The fourteenth housemate was to be chosen by a draw from a tombole. Mario was the name chosen from the random draw, however, Big Brother set him an "Impossible Task" upon entry. He was forced to work undercover as a mole, interfering with the House in a forced discretion for four days. If the majority of the housemates suspected him as a mole, Mario would receive an immediate eviction. |
1 | Mario | Mario entered the House with a mole suit, which he had to change into from the clothes he was wearing before being chosen, and a sign saying "I AM A MOLE" to draw housemates to fast suspicions. In the later hours, Mario got access to the Mole Hole, his living quarters located in a door at the garden. Mario had to complete a series of tasks before it would be decided whether he would be allowed to stay in the house. See tree of temptation table. |
4 | All | All housemates including Mario were told by Big Brother that they had to vote vote for person they thought was the mole. Ben, Caoimhe, Dave, Govan, John James, Josie, Mario, Nathan, Shabby, and Steve voted for Sunshine. Corin and Ife voted for Mario. Rachael voted for Steve, and Sunshine voted for Ben. As the majority did not identify Mario as the mole, Mario was allowed to stay in the House as an official housemate. |
That's a great idea. I think you should make the table like every year: Week, Tasks, maybe "participants" as the third column? The entire long mario-as-a-mole situation can be summarized in 2 parragraphs. no need to divide it upu into days. check the table in BB9, that was pretty good. Mindycl ( talk) 19:54, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
That's a good idea, I'd prefer it as a table as it is easier to find the information needed! Jonni_Boi ( Talk) 14:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm looking at the "Summary" section again, and I know that people like things to be exactly the same as previous versions, but it's just a mass of information. Lower level headings for the separate weeks may make this more readable. If you read through the Big_Brother_2009_(UK)#Summary, it's an unattractive mass of writing that very few people will actually ever read, and this summary is turning into exactly the same thing. Its just a thought, and I know it is very mildly deviating from the other big brother pages, be it the UK or US version, but does anyone else not think the article would benefit from breaking up the summary section into sub-sections as below?
==Summary== ====Week One==== [--content--] ====Week Two==== [--content--] ====Week Three==== [--content--]
WillDow (Talk) 08:15, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
I like this particular summary too. I am using this to establish and improve the big brother africa pages. While the chart is ok for some articles, a short paragraph per week is fine.--Cooly123 02:57, 28 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 ( talk • contribs)
With the new change being confirmed on the Official Big Brother UK website, i added in a pre-veto, post-veto and veto winner into the nominations table. They might not use the term 'veto' but as it is the term used in the USA edition i just went with that, when there is official word on what the 'veto' will be called, it can be changed. Alexdb91 ( talk) 14:10, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Not sure the best way to do this, but this version:- http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Big_Brother_2010_(UK)&oldid=368232508, contains a correct image of the noms. table and totals. This section could be updated each week and referred to in the event of sneaky vandalism. Leaky Caldron 21:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Would it be a good idea to insert a table that list all of Tree of Temptation task's throught the season, in the style of the table used in Pinoy Big Brother and Big Brohter Germany 10? I think it would be a good idea? What do you guys think? -- BigOz22 ( talk) 23:29, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Date Day |
Recipent | Task | Reward | Result |
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Day 9 | Corin | To create 13 diffrent lies and tell it to all other housemates | Someone's suitcases (Hers) | Passed |
We could give a very basic details about the task, such for Mario's task would be "To throw housemate's vegetables and bread in the pool" "To cut someone's (Rachael's) cigarettes". -- BigOz22 ( talk) 00:31, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
It may be worth adding a column for a source. Darrenhusted ( talk) 09:34, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
I think it needs to be added somewhere that shabby told caoimhe about her secret tree task and caoimhe got punished. ElmoSlattery ( talk) 18:56, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
...got 2.8m viewers. Though DS may not be a trusted source. the BBC have the opening program as getting 5.1m, though The Guardian has it at 4.5m. Darrenhusted ( talk) 18:43, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Why's the protection been removed from the page? I thought it was a good idea for the article to be semi protected indefinitely. Tomd2712 ( talk) 15:06, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
I think it needs to be mentioned somwhere about how whoever is evicted is able to choose one person inside the house to have either a good or bad day. Mabye there should also be a table tos ay who each person chose... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.131.152 ( talk) 20:30, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Eviction | Evictee | Good/Bad | Recipient | Token |
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1 | Rachael | Good | Corin | 'Bob Righter's eyes are shining bright, tomorrow for Corin is looking bright.' |
2 | Govan | Good | Josie | 'Bob Righter's eyes are full of fire, tomorrow for Josie her heart's desire' |
86.42.138.239 ( talk) 15:43, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
My thought on this is it isn't needed; it can be placed in the Summary. Before adding various tables the summary needs to be updated with sources because it is still reading as if nothing happened after launch night. Plus the Tree of Temptation table needs sources. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 09:55, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Added a "note" section to the table to tell what happened this week. Don't know where to find exactly what it says on the card so if anyone knows what it is please add it! ElmoSlattery ( talk) 22:59, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Section needs to be completely reedited as bob righter doesn't only deliver notices about good/bd days anymore, The following is what I suggest
Bob Righter
Bob righter is a fortune telling carnival attraction who, from time to time, delivers messages in the form of riddles to the house.
Week | Token | Notes |
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1 | "Bob Righter's eyes shine a magic light, tomorrow for Corin is looking bright." | During her eciction interview, this weeks evictee (Rachael) was given the chance to choose one housemate to have either a good, or a bad day. Rachael chose corin to have a good day. |
2 | "Bob Righter's eyes are full of fire, tomorrow for Josie her heart's desire" | During his eciction interview, this weeks evictee (Govan) was given the chance to choose one housemate to have either a good, or a bad day. Govan chose Josie to have a good day. |
3 | "Ben's stand up challenge has come to end, too bad for him he revealed Bob Righter's friend, for tomorrow Ben will have a revelation and feel the wrath of the Tree of Temptation." | As Ben failed the tree of temptation's task, he had a second punishment, to have a bad day. |
4 | "You've just witnessed Nathan's demise, now it's time to look to the skies." | After Nathan's eviction, three new housemates entered the house and Bob Righter led the housemates to the new housemates coming from the sky. |
5 |
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The first token happened in the early morning of the eviction day. Bob led them to Davina McCaw the model parrot, to show what would happen on the next day. The second token happened after the eviction for Ben to go to the Diary Room for a meal and to listen to music, to be distracted so that the other housemates could begin a task. |
I will edit this into the main article on monday if their are no objections before then. Feel free to edit the above table as I understand its not perfect!!! I think a proper description of what bob righter is is needed. I don't know what those things are called so if anyone does will you please add it. Otherwise mabye a picture of him could be added? ElmoSlattery ( talk) 13:53, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
This new "twist" should have a section within the series 11 page.--Cooly123 19:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 ( talk • contribs)
People keep changing Keeley's departure date as Day 45, when she actually left the house on Day 42. Keeley left the house on Day 42 and has not returned. She didn't leave on Day 45, Day 45 was simply the day Big Brother told the housemates she was not returning to the house. 87.115.93.243 ( talk) 23:51, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
In the Housemates section, the hometown for JJ and Shabby is stated as London. However, JJ was born and raised in Peterborough; Shabby in Buckinghamshire. If this column is meant to give the place of residence, then the name of that column should be changed accordingly. Jim Michael ( talk) 16:59, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Should 'house', 'housemates', 'diary room' etc. begin with capital letters? The article should be consistent throughout in this regard. Jim Michael ( talk) 23:59, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
I recently made the text normal size and it stayed that way for some time but it's been made small again. Can we keep it normal size? It's easier to read, and there's no reason it. See also Wikipedia:Manual of Style (text formatting)#Font size: "Editors should avoid manually inserting large and small fonts into prose." Anemone Projectors 01:38, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Please DO NOT save the page you are editing unless you are sure it is correct. If you want to see how your edit affects the page, click the Show Preview button. I say this because I have just correctly edited the nominations table, only to find someone else has edited it (incorrectly) at the same time, causing my CORRECT edit to be reverted. Thanks. db1987db ( talk) 08:52, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Apart from Mario's ToT task in week one, all of the tasks have been fairly irrelevant to the progress of the series. The same can be said for most of Bob Righter's tasks. I think that these sections should be removed. Mario's ToT task can be mentioned in the summary and both entities (Bob Righter and the ToT) can be touched upon in the format section. As with the "secret missions" of BB6, they are trivial and have no major effect on the general storyline of the series. Anybody agree? KingOfTheMedia ( talk) 12:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I agree that the Bob Righter events/tree of temptation tasks should be part of the summary and possibly trimmed down. Darrenhusted ( talk) 23:19, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm still of the opinion that they aren't needed, no matter how nice they look. Darrenhusted ( talk) 22:17, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Is there anywhere with a photo of all the housguests who may of been selected, also we could a section of small bios at least of these potential hm's. With the newest housguests who just entered the house being from the live lauch this would be appropriate.--Cooly123 23:59, 28 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 ( talk • contribs)
Has been 'updated' on here before it's even been announced on Channel 4! Even if there is someone in the know (ie BB production team), can we not keep updates off of here until they've actually been announced to prevent spoiling it for people who may be viewing the page? Ciao! db1987db ( talk) 21:29, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Is it worth adding this to the nominations table before Week 9's eviction result is announced? If Sam is evicted, he won't be banned next week. Anemone Projectors 00:12, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Should the public not be clearly informed that BB had 'Invited' certain HMs in to the house and the reasons why? Should they have 'Invited' someone in on the basis of his USA cult membership and allow his subliminal messages to be broadcast daily and picked up by the media, without understanding the 'buzz words' - Is this responsible broadcasting? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JACKINABOX 10 ( talk • contribs) 13:09, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately the ‘evidence’ I saw was conveniently removed (Video removed by user)from Dave Vaughan’s own web site and YouTube shortly before the final week (definitely before 17 08 10) and so is probably only clasified as ‘hearsay’. = www.youtube.com - WelshShabba - door into the media –( Why Dave is in there! Fast Forward to 7.16-7.33 on). In his own video Dave announced that “Big Brother” had invited him on to the show after seeing an article in The Sun newspaper (THE SUN 21 JAN 10- http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2817306/The-ravers-who-get-high-on-God.html#ixzz0w2EU3avQ )about Dave and the New Ecstatics. Due to my own lack of skills with computers, I was too late in working out how to ‘download’ the particular video – I hope that someone has. I only have the ‘screen capture’ to illustrate the ‘evidence’. I hope someone is able to provide more. His own profile page on the BB11 Forum page states/d that "He says 'I didn't want to go on Big Brother and I feel weird about the whole thing'". This certainly indicates that it was not his idea to 'audition'.
Ben (and probably Josie) admitted and discussed on the programme that they were there by invite. Perhaps if anybody else is interested, they may have more detail on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JACKINABOX 10 ( talk • contribs) 13:54, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Should the nominations for Week 10 go into the post-save and replace section because the housemates haven't actually nominated anyone. Discuss? MSalmon ( talk) 20:47, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
I don't think this should be included as they entered purely as part of a task, didn't stay over night and weren't housemates at the time. Anemone Projectors 21:55, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to discuss this, as much as the eviction wasn't in order of % but random, i do believe it should reflect the Random way, and the "Finish Place" shuld be removed as it's unneccesary, I'd like to discuss this as i think, because of the way they were evicted, Steve, Corin, Sam and John James should be in the order they left rather than the order of %. -- BigOz22 ( talk) 00:37, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
How do I change Up for eviction to Vote to win because the public are voting for their winner not who to evict? MSalmon ( talk) 08:54, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Keeley didn't walk, she was technically ejected as she was taken out of the house because of her foot, is this correct? Látches Lets talk! 18:13, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Final Week 11 |
Nominations received | ||
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Keeley | Not in House |
Exempt | Walked
8 (Day 45) |
2 |
^Note 8 : On Day 42, Keeley injured her ankle, and was taken to hospital for recovery, on Day 45, she decided she wishes to recover at her home instead of returning to the house and therefore left the show.
-- BigOz22 ( talk) 21:27, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Earlier this was there:
Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Final Week 11 |
Nominations received | ||
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Keeley | Not in House |
Exempt | Walked (due to injury) (Day 42: Left the House, Day 45: Left the show to recuperate) | 2 |
Although this is quite a bit of information, it solves all the queries about Keeley that people have been having. It makes it clear when she left the house (as is normally recorded in the nominations table) and also makes it clear when she left the show. It also makes it clear that she didn't walk for "normal" reasons by pointing out her injury. Giving her status as "walked" is INCORRECT anyway as the Channel 4 website has her status as "recuperating", surely it is our job to make sure the article is correct? This way gives the correct information (recuperating) and also fits in with the other articles by using the colour scheme of walked. We can't get more correct than that so until a better solution can be found, I'm reverting back to this.
If people are adament about not having the correct information in Keeley's "walked" box, then perhaps we need to create a new colour and name (perhaps "recuperating") for housemates who have left the show for medical reasons out of their control to distinguish this from traditional walking and match the status of the housemate with that of the official site.
Sorry if any of that has come across as a rant, but we should be making sure the article is correct and matches the official source. Thanks! Rhys :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.54.154 ( talk) 22:37, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Final Week 11 |
Nominations received | ||
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Keeley | Not in House |
Exempt | Recuperating (Day 42: Left the House, Day 45: Left the show) |
2 | |||||||||
Walked | none | Shabby | none | Caoimhe, | Laura | none | |||||||
Keeley |
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Sorry if I have missed an entry for the 'Housemate Rules' on any of the Big Brother Pages, but if I have not - should they not be included in these articles? JACKINABOX 10 ( talk) 16:51, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for not being clear! 'Rules' for Housemates were included on the Ch4 BB Forum Web site. I.E. :- "The Rules Inside the Big Brother House
There are twelve basic rules regarding life inside the Big Brother House. They are set out in their simplest terms below. Details regarding the rules are set out in more detail later in the document. In agreeing to take part in Big Brother you agree to abide by the rules. 1. There is no contact with the outside world. This includes the internet, newspapers, phone calls and conversations with anyone outside the House except for Big Brother. 2. You are filmed 24 hours a day and must wear your personal microphones at all times. 3. The Diary Room is the only place in the House where Big Brother will engage in a conversation with you. Visits to the Diary Room are compulsory." Ect. Thank You. JACKINABOX 10 ( talk) 17:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
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This article is almost entirely speculation. I've added the {{Speculation}} template. If you actually delete the speculation you end up with the following: "Big Brother 2010 is the upcoming eleventh series of the UK reality television series, of Big Brother (UK) and the last to be broadcast on Channel 4." because there might well be a twelfth series on some other channel. That is hardly the basis for an encyclopaedic article. I recommend deletion. MegaPedant ( talk) 02:14, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
The series hasn't been "axed". That suggests cutting a series short, mid-contract. Channel 4 is simply choosing not to renew its contract when the current one expires. Big Brother 2010 will be the last to be broadcast by Channel 4 but that does not preclude some other broadcaster taking up the mantle next year or at some time in the future. Can we please stick to facts and avoid sensationalism and speculation. — Mega Pedant 18:09, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
From the Radio Times summary of the launch program "...some of the prospective housemates won't even make it through the front door. While the chosen ones head into the house for their 15 minutes of fame, with breathless encouragement from Davina McCall, the rest will have to make do with 15 seconds, before being packed off home." Before Wednesday happens it may be worth noting that if the format is as rumoured then only those who are chosen and enter the house should be listed in this article as housemates. Darrenhusted ( talk) 22:37, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi editors last year there were several discussions that affected not only the British articles but overall Big Brother articles including the USA articles. If possible can we try to have these types of discussions on the main WP:BIGBRO project page and/or the task force pages? It would be nice if we could keep discussions regarding major changes on the task force discussion page and larger discussions to the overall project page. Some editors took offense at these types of discussions being regulated to the then-current season/series articles while some attacked other articles for bringing the project down. Last year with a consensus task forces for two of the largest versions of Big Brother were created ( UK task force & USA task force) to handle the respective differences between the two and other versions. If we utilize the project talk page and the respective task force talk page we can collaborate more efficiently and really improve the overall project and avoid the bashing that happened last year. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 10:19, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Copied to Big Brother 12 (U.S.), WP:BIGBRO, UK task force, USA task force
The "house" and "format" parts are written like the season has already finished. just sayin 118.208.140.69 ( talk) 10:56, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
As confirmed by Phil Edgar Jones, Davina McCall etc. There will be an 'ultimate champion' series running for 2 weeks after the conclusion of Big Brother 11. It should definitely be noted somewhere, whether it goes on this page as a section or alongside Teen Big Brother and Celebrity Hijack as a special series. 88.107.77.65 ( talk) 14:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Do we really need full protection? And for an entire week? Sure there will no doubt be a bit of messing around on this article tonight, but this seems really quite excessive. I remember this happened when Michael Jackson died and I'm sure the consensus was that it wasn't the right thing to do. I would have thought just leaving it to the community to undo anything silly would be more than sufficient. Coolug ( talk) 21:05, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
I've created redirects for all the housemates. Feel free to use them - may save typing out the whole "List of..." etc :) Anemone Projectors 10:30, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello. It appears that some fan websites and gossip blogs are being used to cite information here, such as [1], [2], and [3]. These are not reliable, I'm afraid, and will have to be removed and/or replaced. I should be able to being helping out on this page in about a week. Big Brother 2009 (UK) was of such a terrific standard (I just put it forward for good article level and it passed, the first BBUK piece to do so) and it would be a shame to let that quality slip. KingOfTheMedia ( talk) 14:45, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
I was thinking it might be better to have a page for details of things to be put that have happened in the current day (which haven't had a chance to be shown in an evening episode yet) because in the summary, there's details of day 4 (today), which some people might now want to see before the episode tommorrow, or maybe have a rule that nothing is put into the summary section until the relevant days episode (the episode the day after). Any thoughts on it? Tomdresser27 ( talk) 21:53, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
The nightly BB programme now features a teaser for the following day and the live feed is available for £1.99 a month, plus they have regular new items on the BB site and twitter and youtube pages, anything that could be said to be a spoiler will no longer be a spoiler in less than 24hrs, and BBLB also gives teasers, and by ten on a Friday the house catches up to real time, and the Saturday programme is actually out of date. On top of that SPOILER is clear; don't leave out information because of a fear of "spoiling" something. Darrenhusted ( talk) 19:39, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't really know enough about the current series to do any good editing to this page, but the "Summary" section appears to be turning into a bit of a running commentary of the series. This obviously should be avoided: WP:COMMENTARY. WillDow (Talk) 08:22, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
I have a question: Every year during big brother there is a full report of the tasks, entrances and exits, and happenings in the house. In the summary, it seems to have been halted after day four. Why is no one writing about what tasks have been done that week etc.? I keep coming back to check and there is no news. Mindycl ( talk) 02:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)MindyCL Mindycl ( talk) 02:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
I also have a point, in previous series there has been a table where things that have happened in the day and tasks and everything was neatly set out in a table, could we present this one like that? As I have a feeling most people will not read the massive long text and it would be much easier, however it would be time consuming for the person who has to convert the summary. Could someone do this (possibly?) Jonni_Boi ( Talk) 16:26, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Day | Housemate(s) | Header text |
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1 | On launch night, eighty-one potential housemates stood near the crowd, only thirteen of these would be announced as housemates chosen by big brother | |
1 | Mario | There was a fourteenth housemate set to enter the house, Mario. The fourteenth housemate was to be chosen by a draw from a tombole. Mario was the name chosen from the random draw, however, Big Brother set him an "Impossible Task" upon entry. He was forced to work undercover as a mole, interfering with the House in a forced discretion for four days. If the majority of the housemates suspected him as a mole, Mario would receive an immediate eviction. |
1 | Mario | Mario entered the House with a mole suit, which he had to change into from the clothes he was wearing before being chosen, and a sign saying "I AM A MOLE" to draw housemates to fast suspicions. In the later hours, Mario got access to the Mole Hole, his living quarters located in a door at the garden. Mario had to complete a series of tasks before it would be decided whether he would be allowed to stay in the house. See tree of temptation table. |
4 | All | All housemates including Mario were told by Big Brother that they had to vote vote for person they thought was the mole. Ben, Caoimhe, Dave, Govan, John James, Josie, Mario, Nathan, Shabby, and Steve voted for Sunshine. Corin and Ife voted for Mario. Rachael voted for Steve, and Sunshine voted for Ben. As the majority did not identify Mario as the mole, Mario was allowed to stay in the House as an official housemate. |
That's a great idea. I think you should make the table like every year: Week, Tasks, maybe "participants" as the third column? The entire long mario-as-a-mole situation can be summarized in 2 parragraphs. no need to divide it upu into days. check the table in BB9, that was pretty good. Mindycl ( talk) 19:54, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
That's a good idea, I'd prefer it as a table as it is easier to find the information needed! Jonni_Boi ( Talk) 14:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm looking at the "Summary" section again, and I know that people like things to be exactly the same as previous versions, but it's just a mass of information. Lower level headings for the separate weeks may make this more readable. If you read through the Big_Brother_2009_(UK)#Summary, it's an unattractive mass of writing that very few people will actually ever read, and this summary is turning into exactly the same thing. Its just a thought, and I know it is very mildly deviating from the other big brother pages, be it the UK or US version, but does anyone else not think the article would benefit from breaking up the summary section into sub-sections as below?
==Summary== ====Week One==== [--content--] ====Week Two==== [--content--] ====Week Three==== [--content--]
WillDow (Talk) 08:15, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
I like this particular summary too. I am using this to establish and improve the big brother africa pages. While the chart is ok for some articles, a short paragraph per week is fine.--Cooly123 02:57, 28 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 ( talk • contribs)
With the new change being confirmed on the Official Big Brother UK website, i added in a pre-veto, post-veto and veto winner into the nominations table. They might not use the term 'veto' but as it is the term used in the USA edition i just went with that, when there is official word on what the 'veto' will be called, it can be changed. Alexdb91 ( talk) 14:10, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Not sure the best way to do this, but this version:- http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Big_Brother_2010_(UK)&oldid=368232508, contains a correct image of the noms. table and totals. This section could be updated each week and referred to in the event of sneaky vandalism. Leaky Caldron 21:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Would it be a good idea to insert a table that list all of Tree of Temptation task's throught the season, in the style of the table used in Pinoy Big Brother and Big Brohter Germany 10? I think it would be a good idea? What do you guys think? -- BigOz22 ( talk) 23:29, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Date Day |
Recipent | Task | Reward | Result |
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Day 9 | Corin | To create 13 diffrent lies and tell it to all other housemates | Someone's suitcases (Hers) | Passed |
We could give a very basic details about the task, such for Mario's task would be "To throw housemate's vegetables and bread in the pool" "To cut someone's (Rachael's) cigarettes". -- BigOz22 ( talk) 00:31, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
It may be worth adding a column for a source. Darrenhusted ( talk) 09:34, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
I think it needs to be added somewhere that shabby told caoimhe about her secret tree task and caoimhe got punished. ElmoSlattery ( talk) 18:56, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
...got 2.8m viewers. Though DS may not be a trusted source. the BBC have the opening program as getting 5.1m, though The Guardian has it at 4.5m. Darrenhusted ( talk) 18:43, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Why's the protection been removed from the page? I thought it was a good idea for the article to be semi protected indefinitely. Tomd2712 ( talk) 15:06, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
I think it needs to be mentioned somwhere about how whoever is evicted is able to choose one person inside the house to have either a good or bad day. Mabye there should also be a table tos ay who each person chose... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.131.152 ( talk) 20:30, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Eviction | Evictee | Good/Bad | Recipient | Token |
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1 | Rachael | Good | Corin | 'Bob Righter's eyes are shining bright, tomorrow for Corin is looking bright.' |
2 | Govan | Good | Josie | 'Bob Righter's eyes are full of fire, tomorrow for Josie her heart's desire' |
86.42.138.239 ( talk) 15:43, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
My thought on this is it isn't needed; it can be placed in the Summary. Before adding various tables the summary needs to be updated with sources because it is still reading as if nothing happened after launch night. Plus the Tree of Temptation table needs sources. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 09:55, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Added a "note" section to the table to tell what happened this week. Don't know where to find exactly what it says on the card so if anyone knows what it is please add it! ElmoSlattery ( talk) 22:59, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Section needs to be completely reedited as bob righter doesn't only deliver notices about good/bd days anymore, The following is what I suggest
Bob Righter
Bob righter is a fortune telling carnival attraction who, from time to time, delivers messages in the form of riddles to the house.
Week | Token | Notes |
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1 | "Bob Righter's eyes shine a magic light, tomorrow for Corin is looking bright." | During her eciction interview, this weeks evictee (Rachael) was given the chance to choose one housemate to have either a good, or a bad day. Rachael chose corin to have a good day. |
2 | "Bob Righter's eyes are full of fire, tomorrow for Josie her heart's desire" | During his eciction interview, this weeks evictee (Govan) was given the chance to choose one housemate to have either a good, or a bad day. Govan chose Josie to have a good day. |
3 | "Ben's stand up challenge has come to end, too bad for him he revealed Bob Righter's friend, for tomorrow Ben will have a revelation and feel the wrath of the Tree of Temptation." | As Ben failed the tree of temptation's task, he had a second punishment, to have a bad day. |
4 | "You've just witnessed Nathan's demise, now it's time to look to the skies." | After Nathan's eviction, three new housemates entered the house and Bob Righter led the housemates to the new housemates coming from the sky. |
5 |
|
The first token happened in the early morning of the eviction day. Bob led them to Davina McCaw the model parrot, to show what would happen on the next day. The second token happened after the eviction for Ben to go to the Diary Room for a meal and to listen to music, to be distracted so that the other housemates could begin a task. |
I will edit this into the main article on monday if their are no objections before then. Feel free to edit the above table as I understand its not perfect!!! I think a proper description of what bob righter is is needed. I don't know what those things are called so if anyone does will you please add it. Otherwise mabye a picture of him could be added? ElmoSlattery ( talk) 13:53, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
This new "twist" should have a section within the series 11 page.--Cooly123 19:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 ( talk • contribs)
People keep changing Keeley's departure date as Day 45, when she actually left the house on Day 42. Keeley left the house on Day 42 and has not returned. She didn't leave on Day 45, Day 45 was simply the day Big Brother told the housemates she was not returning to the house. 87.115.93.243 ( talk) 23:51, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
In the Housemates section, the hometown for JJ and Shabby is stated as London. However, JJ was born and raised in Peterborough; Shabby in Buckinghamshire. If this column is meant to give the place of residence, then the name of that column should be changed accordingly. Jim Michael ( talk) 16:59, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Should 'house', 'housemates', 'diary room' etc. begin with capital letters? The article should be consistent throughout in this regard. Jim Michael ( talk) 23:59, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
I recently made the text normal size and it stayed that way for some time but it's been made small again. Can we keep it normal size? It's easier to read, and there's no reason it. See also Wikipedia:Manual of Style (text formatting)#Font size: "Editors should avoid manually inserting large and small fonts into prose." Anemone Projectors 01:38, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Please DO NOT save the page you are editing unless you are sure it is correct. If you want to see how your edit affects the page, click the Show Preview button. I say this because I have just correctly edited the nominations table, only to find someone else has edited it (incorrectly) at the same time, causing my CORRECT edit to be reverted. Thanks. db1987db ( talk) 08:52, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Apart from Mario's ToT task in week one, all of the tasks have been fairly irrelevant to the progress of the series. The same can be said for most of Bob Righter's tasks. I think that these sections should be removed. Mario's ToT task can be mentioned in the summary and both entities (Bob Righter and the ToT) can be touched upon in the format section. As with the "secret missions" of BB6, they are trivial and have no major effect on the general storyline of the series. Anybody agree? KingOfTheMedia ( talk) 12:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I agree that the Bob Righter events/tree of temptation tasks should be part of the summary and possibly trimmed down. Darrenhusted ( talk) 23:19, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm still of the opinion that they aren't needed, no matter how nice they look. Darrenhusted ( talk) 22:17, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Is there anywhere with a photo of all the housguests who may of been selected, also we could a section of small bios at least of these potential hm's. With the newest housguests who just entered the house being from the live lauch this would be appropriate.--Cooly123 23:59, 28 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 ( talk • contribs)
Has been 'updated' on here before it's even been announced on Channel 4! Even if there is someone in the know (ie BB production team), can we not keep updates off of here until they've actually been announced to prevent spoiling it for people who may be viewing the page? Ciao! db1987db ( talk) 21:29, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Is it worth adding this to the nominations table before Week 9's eviction result is announced? If Sam is evicted, he won't be banned next week. Anemone Projectors 00:12, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Should the public not be clearly informed that BB had 'Invited' certain HMs in to the house and the reasons why? Should they have 'Invited' someone in on the basis of his USA cult membership and allow his subliminal messages to be broadcast daily and picked up by the media, without understanding the 'buzz words' - Is this responsible broadcasting? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JACKINABOX 10 ( talk • contribs) 13:09, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately the ‘evidence’ I saw was conveniently removed (Video removed by user)from Dave Vaughan’s own web site and YouTube shortly before the final week (definitely before 17 08 10) and so is probably only clasified as ‘hearsay’. = www.youtube.com - WelshShabba - door into the media –( Why Dave is in there! Fast Forward to 7.16-7.33 on). In his own video Dave announced that “Big Brother” had invited him on to the show after seeing an article in The Sun newspaper (THE SUN 21 JAN 10- http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2817306/The-ravers-who-get-high-on-God.html#ixzz0w2EU3avQ )about Dave and the New Ecstatics. Due to my own lack of skills with computers, I was too late in working out how to ‘download’ the particular video – I hope that someone has. I only have the ‘screen capture’ to illustrate the ‘evidence’. I hope someone is able to provide more. His own profile page on the BB11 Forum page states/d that "He says 'I didn't want to go on Big Brother and I feel weird about the whole thing'". This certainly indicates that it was not his idea to 'audition'.
Ben (and probably Josie) admitted and discussed on the programme that they were there by invite. Perhaps if anybody else is interested, they may have more detail on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JACKINABOX 10 ( talk • contribs) 13:54, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Should the nominations for Week 10 go into the post-save and replace section because the housemates haven't actually nominated anyone. Discuss? MSalmon ( talk) 20:47, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
I don't think this should be included as they entered purely as part of a task, didn't stay over night and weren't housemates at the time. Anemone Projectors 21:55, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to discuss this, as much as the eviction wasn't in order of % but random, i do believe it should reflect the Random way, and the "Finish Place" shuld be removed as it's unneccesary, I'd like to discuss this as i think, because of the way they were evicted, Steve, Corin, Sam and John James should be in the order they left rather than the order of %. -- BigOz22 ( talk) 00:37, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
How do I change Up for eviction to Vote to win because the public are voting for their winner not who to evict? MSalmon ( talk) 08:54, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Keeley didn't walk, she was technically ejected as she was taken out of the house because of her foot, is this correct? Látches Lets talk! 18:13, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Final Week 11 |
Nominations received | ||
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Keeley | Not in House |
Exempt | Walked
8 (Day 45) |
2 |
^Note 8 : On Day 42, Keeley injured her ankle, and was taken to hospital for recovery, on Day 45, she decided she wishes to recover at her home instead of returning to the house and therefore left the show.
-- BigOz22 ( talk) 21:27, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Earlier this was there:
Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Final Week 11 |
Nominations received | ||
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Keeley | Not in House |
Exempt | Walked (due to injury) (Day 42: Left the House, Day 45: Left the show to recuperate) | 2 |
Although this is quite a bit of information, it solves all the queries about Keeley that people have been having. It makes it clear when she left the house (as is normally recorded in the nominations table) and also makes it clear when she left the show. It also makes it clear that she didn't walk for "normal" reasons by pointing out her injury. Giving her status as "walked" is INCORRECT anyway as the Channel 4 website has her status as "recuperating", surely it is our job to make sure the article is correct? This way gives the correct information (recuperating) and also fits in with the other articles by using the colour scheme of walked. We can't get more correct than that so until a better solution can be found, I'm reverting back to this.
If people are adament about not having the correct information in Keeley's "walked" box, then perhaps we need to create a new colour and name (perhaps "recuperating") for housemates who have left the show for medical reasons out of their control to distinguish this from traditional walking and match the status of the housemate with that of the official site.
Sorry if any of that has come across as a rant, but we should be making sure the article is correct and matches the official source. Thanks! Rhys :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.54.154 ( talk) 22:37, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Final Week 11 |
Nominations received | ||
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Keeley | Not in House |
Exempt | Recuperating (Day 42: Left the House, Day 45: Left the show) |
2 | |||||||||
Walked | none | Shabby | none | Caoimhe, | Laura | none | |||||||
Keeley |
This article has been upgraded to C-Class because it fails one or more of the B-Class criteria
Not done The House, Format and Nominations table are key areas lacking cations.
Not done The Format section could be expanded, see
Big Brother 2009 (UK) along with the Summary section.
Done Similar to
Big Brother 2009 (UK), sections could be added to improve the article.
Not done Article has weasel words, article should be written similar to
Big Brother 2009 (UK). Avoid using "In Week X" or "Week X..." for every week.
Not done Some images or other forms of supporting materials could be added.
Not done Unless the reader has viewed Big Brother or has read previous articles like
Big Brother 2009 (UK) some information may not be understood.
Because the article is more developed but is still lacking key aspects of being B-Class, it has been upgraded to C-Class. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 01:16, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry if I have missed an entry for the 'Housemate Rules' on any of the Big Brother Pages, but if I have not - should they not be included in these articles? JACKINABOX 10 ( talk) 16:51, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for not being clear! 'Rules' for Housemates were included on the Ch4 BB Forum Web site. I.E. :- "The Rules Inside the Big Brother House
There are twelve basic rules regarding life inside the Big Brother House. They are set out in their simplest terms below. Details regarding the rules are set out in more detail later in the document. In agreeing to take part in Big Brother you agree to abide by the rules. 1. There is no contact with the outside world. This includes the internet, newspapers, phone calls and conversations with anyone outside the House except for Big Brother. 2. You are filmed 24 hours a day and must wear your personal microphones at all times. 3. The Diary Room is the only place in the House where Big Brother will engage in a conversation with you. Visits to the Diary Room are compulsory." Ect. Thank You. JACKINABOX 10 ( talk) 17:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
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