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There is a dispute over the name "Bhutan Times". A section was added to this article about that dispute because it is a significant part of the Bhutan Times story and it could be useful to readers. The section addition was reverted without explanation or comment. I am adding the section again. If anyone believes there are inaccuracies in the section, please discuss them here or make changes to the section to correct any factual errors along with an explanation. -- 24.61.222.132 13:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Bramlet, thank you for responding at the incident board. As I said, yesterday was my first post to this article and I have no association with the bhutantimes.com web site. Because of the long dispute with that site, I understand why you may be a little quick to assume malace, but please do not make that assumption here.
Because of your reluctance to commingle content about the newspaper and the web site, and since the web site and the newspaper are both named "Bhutan Times", I propose creating a disambiguity page and have separate articles for each. I'll place a template tag here to solicit comments. If you have any comments, please post them here. -- 24.61.222.132 02:56, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I guess my question now is :
1. Do you have reliable secondary sources that are about the dispute?
2. Do you have reliable secondary sources about the .com version of the website?
Those two things would warrant a mention in this article and most likely a split.
Spryde
13:41, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
This article has been tagged as a candidate for a split as discussed under the section "Name dispute" above. Please do not remove the tag while discussion is ongoing. -- Darana 03:03, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
"Thank you, Spartaz. Bramlet, could you tell me your motivation for removing all references to that web site? Do you run that other site, BhutanTimes.bu? Did they say something you didn't like? You have stated in the past that the website is trivial, etc., however, you have made hundreds of edits over the past few months to remove every trace of it from wikipedia. I don't mean this personally, but it doesn't seem rational to go through all that effort for a site you consider trivial. Please explain your reasons. If we discuss this, I may be convinced of your position."
Ok, the site may not be eligible for an article itself. However, you may be able to use it as an external link (See WP:EL for the requirements for that. Make sure you have a citation that shows that is the website of the pro-democracy movement. A whois search is not a reliable source so you can't use that as a source. Spryde 02:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Even if the .bt website was second to have the name, the fact that it has a print publication (which has interviewed notable individuals) makes it notable. Because the .com one's existence is limited to online, it is much more difficult to prove its notability (as a representative of reformist forces or otherwise). And as for the dispute between the two, we do need sources; we cannot synthesize it on the basis of primary sources. El_C 21:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
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There is a dispute over the name "Bhutan Times". A section was added to this article about that dispute because it is a significant part of the Bhutan Times story and it could be useful to readers. The section addition was reverted without explanation or comment. I am adding the section again. If anyone believes there are inaccuracies in the section, please discuss them here or make changes to the section to correct any factual errors along with an explanation. -- 24.61.222.132 13:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Bramlet, thank you for responding at the incident board. As I said, yesterday was my first post to this article and I have no association with the bhutantimes.com web site. Because of the long dispute with that site, I understand why you may be a little quick to assume malace, but please do not make that assumption here.
Because of your reluctance to commingle content about the newspaper and the web site, and since the web site and the newspaper are both named "Bhutan Times", I propose creating a disambiguity page and have separate articles for each. I'll place a template tag here to solicit comments. If you have any comments, please post them here. -- 24.61.222.132 02:56, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I guess my question now is :
1. Do you have reliable secondary sources that are about the dispute?
2. Do you have reliable secondary sources about the .com version of the website?
Those two things would warrant a mention in this article and most likely a split.
Spryde
13:41, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
This article has been tagged as a candidate for a split as discussed under the section "Name dispute" above. Please do not remove the tag while discussion is ongoing. -- Darana 03:03, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
"Thank you, Spartaz. Bramlet, could you tell me your motivation for removing all references to that web site? Do you run that other site, BhutanTimes.bu? Did they say something you didn't like? You have stated in the past that the website is trivial, etc., however, you have made hundreds of edits over the past few months to remove every trace of it from wikipedia. I don't mean this personally, but it doesn't seem rational to go through all that effort for a site you consider trivial. Please explain your reasons. If we discuss this, I may be convinced of your position."
Ok, the site may not be eligible for an article itself. However, you may be able to use it as an external link (See WP:EL for the requirements for that. Make sure you have a citation that shows that is the website of the pro-democracy movement. A whois search is not a reliable source so you can't use that as a source. Spryde 02:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Even if the .bt website was second to have the name, the fact that it has a print publication (which has interviewed notable individuals) makes it notable. Because the .com one's existence is limited to online, it is much more difficult to prove its notability (as a representative of reformist forces or otherwise). And as for the dispute between the two, we do need sources; we cannot synthesize it on the basis of primary sources. El_C 21:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
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