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Bezen Perrot never rounded up Jews. It was created to fight the French Resistance which had already attacked and killed members of the Breton political and cultural movement. It ended in a sort of civil war with atrocities committed on both sides. Its activities started only in 1944 so even if rounding up Jews was not at all the aim of its creation it couldn't have done so because at that date the few Jews who had lived in Brittany had already been arrested by French Police Nationale, Gendarmerie Nationale and railways company. Please refrain from degrading Wikipedia by adding affirmations that are proven to be historically false.
Bezen Perrot took arms given to them by the German military occupation forces against the French Resistance which fought with arms parachuted by British SOE which also parachuted officers of different nationalities to give orders. There is no documentation of mass murders of civilians. Wikipedia should not be degraded by adding affirmations that are proven to be historically false. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.166.108.101 ( talk) 14:20, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
German Bandenbekämpfung branded civilian populations as "bandits" or "members of gangs" in order to justify their executions. Bezen Perrot took part in multiple mass murders of "alleged" resistance fighters.-- Catlemur ( talk) 06:42, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
No trace of Bezen Perrot in Ar Faoued on 7 May 1944. Kadbzh ( talk) 03:44, 2 October 2019 (UTC) cf. "Les Maquisards chez nous en 1944 : Gourin, Le Faouët, Guéméné" de René Le Guénic (Auteur)-- J'ai toujours été passionné par l'histoire, celle de la Résistance m'a particulièrement intéressé. C'est l'année 1944, la plus riche en événements qui a essentiellement retenu mon attention. En qualité d'auteur-compositeur, membre de la SACEM, j'avais écrit une lémopée pour le 40e anniversaire de Landordu, une fosse ou 16 patriotes furent fusillés par les allemands. Le maire de Berné, Roland Duclos, m'a encouragé à relater l'histoire de la Résistance dans notre secteur. Ce livre est une succession de récits retraçant, à partir de témoignages, documents et photos de l'époque, les hauts faits, les drames, les accidents qui émaillèrent la vie des résistants. -- L'auteur — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kadbzh ( talk • contribs) 12:59, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
Catlemur has re-instated the section of the article dealing with the pre-modern history of Brittany which I removed, and I think this is worth discussing as these sections are quite long (perhaps 1/10 of the entire article) and long-standing. Catlemur raised the issue on my talk page claiming that I was "making sweeping edits that directly contradict the article's GA review suggestions".
My rationale for removing them is simply that they do not fit into an article of this scope. Indeed, this is apparent from the fact that the bits of the article about the Bezen Perrot are sourced from entirely different texts from this background material - and vice versa. My arguments are as follows:
This is not to depreciate the work put into the article by Catlemur on an article which is otherwise very good. I am also aware that I am a latecomer to the subject. However, there is clearly room for improvement here as in any other article, and this seems an obvious issue. Might a solution be to move this section (rather than delete it outright) to another article? — Brigade Piron ( talk) 13:06, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
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Bezen Perrot never rounded up Jews. It was created to fight the French Resistance which had already attacked and killed members of the Breton political and cultural movement. It ended in a sort of civil war with atrocities committed on both sides. Its activities started only in 1944 so even if rounding up Jews was not at all the aim of its creation it couldn't have done so because at that date the few Jews who had lived in Brittany had already been arrested by French Police Nationale, Gendarmerie Nationale and railways company. Please refrain from degrading Wikipedia by adding affirmations that are proven to be historically false.
Bezen Perrot took arms given to them by the German military occupation forces against the French Resistance which fought with arms parachuted by British SOE which also parachuted officers of different nationalities to give orders. There is no documentation of mass murders of civilians. Wikipedia should not be degraded by adding affirmations that are proven to be historically false. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.166.108.101 ( talk) 14:20, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
German Bandenbekämpfung branded civilian populations as "bandits" or "members of gangs" in order to justify their executions. Bezen Perrot took part in multiple mass murders of "alleged" resistance fighters.-- Catlemur ( talk) 06:42, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
No trace of Bezen Perrot in Ar Faoued on 7 May 1944. Kadbzh ( talk) 03:44, 2 October 2019 (UTC) cf. "Les Maquisards chez nous en 1944 : Gourin, Le Faouët, Guéméné" de René Le Guénic (Auteur)-- J'ai toujours été passionné par l'histoire, celle de la Résistance m'a particulièrement intéressé. C'est l'année 1944, la plus riche en événements qui a essentiellement retenu mon attention. En qualité d'auteur-compositeur, membre de la SACEM, j'avais écrit une lémopée pour le 40e anniversaire de Landordu, une fosse ou 16 patriotes furent fusillés par les allemands. Le maire de Berné, Roland Duclos, m'a encouragé à relater l'histoire de la Résistance dans notre secteur. Ce livre est une succession de récits retraçant, à partir de témoignages, documents et photos de l'époque, les hauts faits, les drames, les accidents qui émaillèrent la vie des résistants. -- L'auteur — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kadbzh ( talk • contribs) 12:59, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
Catlemur has re-instated the section of the article dealing with the pre-modern history of Brittany which I removed, and I think this is worth discussing as these sections are quite long (perhaps 1/10 of the entire article) and long-standing. Catlemur raised the issue on my talk page claiming that I was "making sweeping edits that directly contradict the article's GA review suggestions".
My rationale for removing them is simply that they do not fit into an article of this scope. Indeed, this is apparent from the fact that the bits of the article about the Bezen Perrot are sourced from entirely different texts from this background material - and vice versa. My arguments are as follows:
This is not to depreciate the work put into the article by Catlemur on an article which is otherwise very good. I am also aware that I am a latecomer to the subject. However, there is clearly room for improvement here as in any other article, and this seems an obvious issue. Might a solution be to move this section (rather than delete it outright) to another article? — Brigade Piron ( talk) 13:06, 11 April 2020 (UTC)