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I have been doing a bit of research into where the design originated, and unfortunately it seems to evolved from a very old design. The patent linked to above is for a similar design from 1892. The burners where used extensively as fondue burners for fondue cooking. The differences I can see is that the pepsi can and trangia stove both don't use absorbent material in the lower half and they don't have wire mesh across the top of the opening. The design of the internal wall to transfer heat (shared by pepsi can and trangia) must have originated somewhere? This more recent patent references many other alcohol burning stove patents. patent link
The trangia company started in 1925 and claims the trangia stove has been sold since 1951, the trangia stove includes the interlocking wind shields and pots as well. I have uploaded a photo of a trangia burner if it will be of any help to anyone. Martyman 23:59, 30 October 2004 (UTC)
I looked for history of this design as characterized by double wall gas generator, vapor vents from gas generator chamber, and central preheat chamber;
There were several foreign patents I ran across but none earlier than these.
Still looking for history of pop can usage. Duk 03:26, 31 October 2004 (UTC)
The Safesport stove claims to be Pat No 55308, it is stainless steel design and is an excellent stove.
In answer to Duk question of history, here is what I know User:Eagle
It was spring of 2000 when I was scoutmaster of a new troop without camping equipment. The stainless steel "safesport" stove (box claims Patent no 55308) I had taken on a woodbadge trip to Philmont seemed perfect, however a source was not forthcoming as the company seems to be out of business. That search for an inexpensive backpacking stove did turn up various sites featuring tuna can and tomato paste (steel) can stoves which as the commercially available Trangia stove worked on the same principle as the "safesport" stove.
While waiting for a Trangia to arrive via REI, I began experimenting with the can stoves as a potential project for the boys in the troop. Such a project is suitable for metal working meritbadge and stimulate the boys to consider how to make and modify their own camping gear rather than simply purchasing it.
These experiments included various aluminum can designs that seemed to be new to the web at that time. I was not satisfied with several aspects of the existing design as 1- it required two cans to make one stove and 2- required a separate pot support. A couple of days experimenting resulted in a design that overcame both those limitations, a stove that could be made from one can and that would self support a cooking pot. An unanticipated benefit was that the pot snuffed the central flame causing a higher pressure burn of the alcohol vapor jetting thru the holes only.
I have used three stoves to support a large pot for patrol cooking.
This turned out to be a wonderful scout meeting project as the aluminum of the cans is soft enough that ragged edges do not cut young skin and a boy can actually make a first stove in 20 minutes. One technique is to have the older boys learn how to make the stoves with adult instruction, while the younger boys received instruction on rank advancement, then have the older boys teach the younger boys how to make the stove. Many boys continued to practice their stove making skills at home, some becomming quite profecient.
This design was then taught to other troops and staff at summer camp and camporees over the next couple of years and in 2001 was a roundtable project for other leaders complete with a printed "how to" handout. The top of the can becomes the top of the stove with holes punched using the plastic topped bulletin board pins.
The handout is a corel 3 file.
Here is a photo:
This article should be linked from more article, such as hiking or camping or stove. SweetLittleFluffyThing 07:01, 31 October 2004 (UTC)
I can understand using the american spelling of words like aluminum but the new title of the design setion "Pop cans" means nothing to me, not being from the US. The term "pop" is not used at all in Australia and I am guessing that it isn't used in Europe either. We call them soft drinks here in Australia, but the same cans are also used for beer, so maybe "carbonated drink can" would be more emcompassing. Wouldn't a better title for the section be "Construction" and you could add the word "detailed" to the see external links line. Martyman 23:22, 2 November 2004 (UTC)
Oh and just for reference in Australia the only thing refered to as "soda" is soda water which is plain carbonated water. Anything that is fizzy, sweet and flavoured is called a soft drink. Martyman 06:02, 3 November 2004 (UTC)
Here's a map of pop vs. soda (vs. coke) for the U.S.; I haven't seen an international version. If the device is most often called a Pepsi can stove, whether made of a pepsi can or not, it should be named that. Excellent article. -- Ben Brockert 02:42, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC)
Why does this article have NOTOC? Joe D (t) 05:47, 3 November 2004 (UTC)
When renaming an article it should be moved rather than just copied and pasted to the new name. Otherwise all editing history is lost. Unfortunately I moved teh talk page over now so it is even more complicated. We will need to get an administrator to remove the current "soda can stove" page and move a reverted copy of the "Pepsi can stove" over here. Martyman 05:52, 3 November 2004 (UTC)
Isn't there a possibility that the aluminium will melt? ✏ Sverdrup 20:24, 20 October 2004 (UTC)
Interesting article, hadn't noticed it until it became featured. Good work everyone! -- fvw * 00:56, 17 December 2004 (UTC)
I noticed a comment on the featured article candidate page complaining about the yellow lines on the Variations figure. I find the cross section inclusion useful and interesting. The caption should make the diagram easy enough to understand especially with the link to a definition of cross section. Martyman 02:24, 7 November 2004 (UTC)
Was this article written by some imaginative bod at Pepsi marketing?
Nice article but I never heard of anyone using ethanol as fuel for these things. Ethanol is drinkable and so you have to pay liquor tax in order to buy it ($$$). Stove fuel is usually methanol (wood alcohol), which is toxic.
In Australia the typically used fuel is Metholated spirits, which I think is almost exactly the same thing as denatured ethanol. It is something like 95% ethanol with 5% methyl alcohol added to make it un-drinkable and therefore not liable for extra taxes. Methanol is not generally easily available to the public here. Martyman 12:09, 17 December 2004 (UTC)
Denaturated ethanol is also used as shellac thinner, and is sold in most hardware stores. Duk 00:35, 18 December 2004 (UTC)
We use pure ethanol at work as a cleaning solvent. I believe that we don't have to pay any taxes on it but that it's sale is regulated. I have been told that the main reson for regulating the sale of it is not because you can drink it, (it tastes very strong, but would porobably be OK with a mixer) but because it is used in a proccessing step in drug manufacturing. I can't remember which drug this applies to. Martyman 03:38, 18 December 2004 (UTC)
One of my Wikipedia peeves is the use of the word soda instead of soft drink. People in many regions of the United States not only use different regional slang to refer to soft drinks (i.e. Pop or Coke), but take offence when they see soda used that way in print. It is offensive to insinuate that one region's non-standard slang term should replace its equivalent in another region. Furthermore, words from the general English lexicon should preferred over regional slang terms in Wikipedia. Lastly, since such a stove could be fabricated from a beer can or an iced tea can, a less specific term for such a can would be more appropriate.
I propose that this article be renamed to either Beverage can stove or Aluminum can stove. Since it has been a featured article and has an extensive edit history it would be inappropriate for me to unilaterally blank and re-direct without community input. I won't touch this article for a week while awaiting community input. Also, an Admin should copy the edit history as part of the move. -- Casito 11:24, 3 January 2005 (UTC)
It was recently suggested that this article be merged with Hobo stove. I'm against this since the hobo stove is a very different design. -- Duk 22:36, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Good lord, no. A hobo stove and beverage can stove are completely different things. They burn different materials, work on different principals, exist at a different scale. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.70.105.192 ( talk • contribs) .
Agreed, not a good merge candidate. -- Martyman- (talk) 22:09, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
I've re-inserted the text regarding other possible construction materials (cat tins, juice cans, etc), since they are essentially the same design. They aren't Buddy Burners, since they use the same principal of operation (two-walled construction) and fuel, and just use slightly different materials. Indeed, most sources I know of show the denature alchohol "cat stove" [1] predating the soda can stove. A good overview of various denatured alcohol stoves of similar design is at [2]. -- Kaszeta 17:50, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Spare and sweet. Colorful 3-D rendering leaves nothing to the imagination. Top link in the references shows you exactly how to make one. +sj + 00:09, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
From the fac page, does this article need a warning/disclaimer?
Duk 22:05, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Such as what? If there are serious safety issues, they should be covered in the article. If it's something like "Danger: this can stove can get hot", then no:) jguk 22:27, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Since wikipedia is not a do-it-yourself guide or a howto, we shouldn't need to have disclaimers of this type. ✏ Sverdrup 16:26, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Seriously, I think some kind of warning could be in order. It's a device dealing with flammable materials/fluids. Accidently tipping the device can cause spills of burning fluid.. which in turn can cause flash burns (and a reason for tipping it may be that you try to pick it up while it's hot). Making mistakes when contructing it may cause internal perssure build-ups until it ruptures/explodes. Placing it on something that is sensitive to heat may cause burn marks or even fires. All of these risks should be adressed in the article. -- J-Star 20:11, 2004 Dec 15 (UTC)
No, do not include a disclaimer. We used to have individual disclaimers, and when we got the general one, we took all the old ones out because they're redundant and they pollute articles with meta data. →Raul654 03:11, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)
-- J-Star 09:12, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)
It should be noted that the Platinum and Petrol articles have caution/danger sections. -- J-Star 14:29, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)
It might be worth mentioning that sometimes people make the mistake of trying to "blow out" the standard design stove, which doesn't work and is a good way to start a messy fire. The stove "goes out" when it runs out of fuel. One could cover the stove to cut off oxygen, but that's uncommon, since one may not have an extra pot or lid available when hiking due to size/weight considerations. This is the sort of notice that only applies to stoves similar in design to the Pepsi Can Stove and consequently does not appear elsewhere. But then, I wasn't part of the above discussion, so perhaps others have opinions on this issue? Orcrist 18:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
The article speaks of the can stove requiring more mass of alcohol fuel than the propane/butane fuel used by a different stove. I don't know the respective chemical energies of either of these fuel mixtures, but I'm pretty sure they're not the same. Thus the article's assertions about fuel economy are highly suspect. Matt Gies 18:46, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
There are some good suggestions from the featured article nomination that I hope people can help with; Duk 19:19, 30 October 2004 (UTC)
is the current name appropriate? Is a more generic name better?
How about including alcohol in the name?
What commercial models are available? so far;
I feel that there should be less references to Pepsi. The first one saying that they are often referred to as Pepsi can stoves is fine, but it seems that all after that should say can stove or beverage can stove. As such, it doesn't feel like it holds NPOV. Does that sound weird? Zepheus 02:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
I inadvertantly violated some rule with my post of an external link to the homemade soda can stove page. Can I add the following link?
http://home.alltel.net/rjprince/FireLightStove.html
This is a free access to a design that is my own. I want to make it available to anyone who would like to make one or two of these stoves. I am also beginning to market a polished can version at another site. There is no reference to this site, or any commercial site on the above link. Does this meet the rules?
Please let me know. Thanks!
Ray —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rjprince ( talk • contribs) 04:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC).
-Chris, 15
Don't know if it is worth mentioning. The Boy Scouts of America now prohibits "Equipment that is handcrafted, homemade, modified, or installed beyond the manufacturer’s stated design limitations or use. Examples include alcohol-burning “can” stoves, smudge pots, improperly installed heaters, and propane burners with their regulators removed." [7] ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 15:55, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
At the top (paragraph 3), it says that isopropanol delivers the most energy. In the bulleted list under "Comparison with other stoves" it says, "These stoves operate marginally on 90% isopropyl alcohol" Aren't isoproponal and isopropyl alcohol the same? Is the point that vou need a higher percentage than 90%? Because it's not like you can have 100% pure isopropanol, because if it's exposed to air it dilutes itself (at least that is what I was taught--I can't prove it). And anyway, what is the information about the effects of different fuels on this stove doing in the "Comparison with other stoves section? The article doesn't say much about the fuels used in other stoves. It may be that all of the information is correct, but some explaination of the apparent discrepancy would be welcome. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.101.168 ( talk) 05:09, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
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I have been doing a bit of research into where the design originated, and unfortunately it seems to evolved from a very old design. The patent linked to above is for a similar design from 1892. The burners where used extensively as fondue burners for fondue cooking. The differences I can see is that the pepsi can and trangia stove both don't use absorbent material in the lower half and they don't have wire mesh across the top of the opening. The design of the internal wall to transfer heat (shared by pepsi can and trangia) must have originated somewhere? This more recent patent references many other alcohol burning stove patents. patent link
The trangia company started in 1925 and claims the trangia stove has been sold since 1951, the trangia stove includes the interlocking wind shields and pots as well. I have uploaded a photo of a trangia burner if it will be of any help to anyone. Martyman 23:59, 30 October 2004 (UTC)
I looked for history of this design as characterized by double wall gas generator, vapor vents from gas generator chamber, and central preheat chamber;
There were several foreign patents I ran across but none earlier than these.
Still looking for history of pop can usage. Duk 03:26, 31 October 2004 (UTC)
The Safesport stove claims to be Pat No 55308, it is stainless steel design and is an excellent stove.
In answer to Duk question of history, here is what I know User:Eagle
It was spring of 2000 when I was scoutmaster of a new troop without camping equipment. The stainless steel "safesport" stove (box claims Patent no 55308) I had taken on a woodbadge trip to Philmont seemed perfect, however a source was not forthcoming as the company seems to be out of business. That search for an inexpensive backpacking stove did turn up various sites featuring tuna can and tomato paste (steel) can stoves which as the commercially available Trangia stove worked on the same principle as the "safesport" stove.
While waiting for a Trangia to arrive via REI, I began experimenting with the can stoves as a potential project for the boys in the troop. Such a project is suitable for metal working meritbadge and stimulate the boys to consider how to make and modify their own camping gear rather than simply purchasing it.
These experiments included various aluminum can designs that seemed to be new to the web at that time. I was not satisfied with several aspects of the existing design as 1- it required two cans to make one stove and 2- required a separate pot support. A couple of days experimenting resulted in a design that overcame both those limitations, a stove that could be made from one can and that would self support a cooking pot. An unanticipated benefit was that the pot snuffed the central flame causing a higher pressure burn of the alcohol vapor jetting thru the holes only.
I have used three stoves to support a large pot for patrol cooking.
This turned out to be a wonderful scout meeting project as the aluminum of the cans is soft enough that ragged edges do not cut young skin and a boy can actually make a first stove in 20 minutes. One technique is to have the older boys learn how to make the stoves with adult instruction, while the younger boys received instruction on rank advancement, then have the older boys teach the younger boys how to make the stove. Many boys continued to practice their stove making skills at home, some becomming quite profecient.
This design was then taught to other troops and staff at summer camp and camporees over the next couple of years and in 2001 was a roundtable project for other leaders complete with a printed "how to" handout. The top of the can becomes the top of the stove with holes punched using the plastic topped bulletin board pins.
The handout is a corel 3 file.
Here is a photo:
This article should be linked from more article, such as hiking or camping or stove. SweetLittleFluffyThing 07:01, 31 October 2004 (UTC)
I can understand using the american spelling of words like aluminum but the new title of the design setion "Pop cans" means nothing to me, not being from the US. The term "pop" is not used at all in Australia and I am guessing that it isn't used in Europe either. We call them soft drinks here in Australia, but the same cans are also used for beer, so maybe "carbonated drink can" would be more emcompassing. Wouldn't a better title for the section be "Construction" and you could add the word "detailed" to the see external links line. Martyman 23:22, 2 November 2004 (UTC)
Oh and just for reference in Australia the only thing refered to as "soda" is soda water which is plain carbonated water. Anything that is fizzy, sweet and flavoured is called a soft drink. Martyman 06:02, 3 November 2004 (UTC)
Here's a map of pop vs. soda (vs. coke) for the U.S.; I haven't seen an international version. If the device is most often called a Pepsi can stove, whether made of a pepsi can or not, it should be named that. Excellent article. -- Ben Brockert 02:42, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC)
Why does this article have NOTOC? Joe D (t) 05:47, 3 November 2004 (UTC)
When renaming an article it should be moved rather than just copied and pasted to the new name. Otherwise all editing history is lost. Unfortunately I moved teh talk page over now so it is even more complicated. We will need to get an administrator to remove the current "soda can stove" page and move a reverted copy of the "Pepsi can stove" over here. Martyman 05:52, 3 November 2004 (UTC)
Isn't there a possibility that the aluminium will melt? ✏ Sverdrup 20:24, 20 October 2004 (UTC)
Interesting article, hadn't noticed it until it became featured. Good work everyone! -- fvw * 00:56, 17 December 2004 (UTC)
I noticed a comment on the featured article candidate page complaining about the yellow lines on the Variations figure. I find the cross section inclusion useful and interesting. The caption should make the diagram easy enough to understand especially with the link to a definition of cross section. Martyman 02:24, 7 November 2004 (UTC)
Was this article written by some imaginative bod at Pepsi marketing?
Nice article but I never heard of anyone using ethanol as fuel for these things. Ethanol is drinkable and so you have to pay liquor tax in order to buy it ($$$). Stove fuel is usually methanol (wood alcohol), which is toxic.
In Australia the typically used fuel is Metholated spirits, which I think is almost exactly the same thing as denatured ethanol. It is something like 95% ethanol with 5% methyl alcohol added to make it un-drinkable and therefore not liable for extra taxes. Methanol is not generally easily available to the public here. Martyman 12:09, 17 December 2004 (UTC)
Denaturated ethanol is also used as shellac thinner, and is sold in most hardware stores. Duk 00:35, 18 December 2004 (UTC)
We use pure ethanol at work as a cleaning solvent. I believe that we don't have to pay any taxes on it but that it's sale is regulated. I have been told that the main reson for regulating the sale of it is not because you can drink it, (it tastes very strong, but would porobably be OK with a mixer) but because it is used in a proccessing step in drug manufacturing. I can't remember which drug this applies to. Martyman 03:38, 18 December 2004 (UTC)
One of my Wikipedia peeves is the use of the word soda instead of soft drink. People in many regions of the United States not only use different regional slang to refer to soft drinks (i.e. Pop or Coke), but take offence when they see soda used that way in print. It is offensive to insinuate that one region's non-standard slang term should replace its equivalent in another region. Furthermore, words from the general English lexicon should preferred over regional slang terms in Wikipedia. Lastly, since such a stove could be fabricated from a beer can or an iced tea can, a less specific term for such a can would be more appropriate.
I propose that this article be renamed to either Beverage can stove or Aluminum can stove. Since it has been a featured article and has an extensive edit history it would be inappropriate for me to unilaterally blank and re-direct without community input. I won't touch this article for a week while awaiting community input. Also, an Admin should copy the edit history as part of the move. -- Casito 11:24, 3 January 2005 (UTC)
It was recently suggested that this article be merged with Hobo stove. I'm against this since the hobo stove is a very different design. -- Duk 22:36, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Good lord, no. A hobo stove and beverage can stove are completely different things. They burn different materials, work on different principals, exist at a different scale. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.70.105.192 ( talk • contribs) .
Agreed, not a good merge candidate. -- Martyman- (talk) 22:09, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
I've re-inserted the text regarding other possible construction materials (cat tins, juice cans, etc), since they are essentially the same design. They aren't Buddy Burners, since they use the same principal of operation (two-walled construction) and fuel, and just use slightly different materials. Indeed, most sources I know of show the denature alchohol "cat stove" [1] predating the soda can stove. A good overview of various denatured alcohol stoves of similar design is at [2]. -- Kaszeta 17:50, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Spare and sweet. Colorful 3-D rendering leaves nothing to the imagination. Top link in the references shows you exactly how to make one. +sj + 00:09, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
From the fac page, does this article need a warning/disclaimer?
Duk 22:05, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Such as what? If there are serious safety issues, they should be covered in the article. If it's something like "Danger: this can stove can get hot", then no:) jguk 22:27, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Since wikipedia is not a do-it-yourself guide or a howto, we shouldn't need to have disclaimers of this type. ✏ Sverdrup 16:26, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Seriously, I think some kind of warning could be in order. It's a device dealing with flammable materials/fluids. Accidently tipping the device can cause spills of burning fluid.. which in turn can cause flash burns (and a reason for tipping it may be that you try to pick it up while it's hot). Making mistakes when contructing it may cause internal perssure build-ups until it ruptures/explodes. Placing it on something that is sensitive to heat may cause burn marks or even fires. All of these risks should be adressed in the article. -- J-Star 20:11, 2004 Dec 15 (UTC)
No, do not include a disclaimer. We used to have individual disclaimers, and when we got the general one, we took all the old ones out because they're redundant and they pollute articles with meta data. →Raul654 03:11, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)
-- J-Star 09:12, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)
It should be noted that the Platinum and Petrol articles have caution/danger sections. -- J-Star 14:29, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)
It might be worth mentioning that sometimes people make the mistake of trying to "blow out" the standard design stove, which doesn't work and is a good way to start a messy fire. The stove "goes out" when it runs out of fuel. One could cover the stove to cut off oxygen, but that's uncommon, since one may not have an extra pot or lid available when hiking due to size/weight considerations. This is the sort of notice that only applies to stoves similar in design to the Pepsi Can Stove and consequently does not appear elsewhere. But then, I wasn't part of the above discussion, so perhaps others have opinions on this issue? Orcrist 18:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
The article speaks of the can stove requiring more mass of alcohol fuel than the propane/butane fuel used by a different stove. I don't know the respective chemical energies of either of these fuel mixtures, but I'm pretty sure they're not the same. Thus the article's assertions about fuel economy are highly suspect. Matt Gies 18:46, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
There are some good suggestions from the featured article nomination that I hope people can help with; Duk 19:19, 30 October 2004 (UTC)
is the current name appropriate? Is a more generic name better?
How about including alcohol in the name?
What commercial models are available? so far;
I feel that there should be less references to Pepsi. The first one saying that they are often referred to as Pepsi can stoves is fine, but it seems that all after that should say can stove or beverage can stove. As such, it doesn't feel like it holds NPOV. Does that sound weird? Zepheus 02:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
I inadvertantly violated some rule with my post of an external link to the homemade soda can stove page. Can I add the following link?
http://home.alltel.net/rjprince/FireLightStove.html
This is a free access to a design that is my own. I want to make it available to anyone who would like to make one or two of these stoves. I am also beginning to market a polished can version at another site. There is no reference to this site, or any commercial site on the above link. Does this meet the rules?
Please let me know. Thanks!
Ray —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rjprince ( talk • contribs) 04:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC).
-Chris, 15
Don't know if it is worth mentioning. The Boy Scouts of America now prohibits "Equipment that is handcrafted, homemade, modified, or installed beyond the manufacturer’s stated design limitations or use. Examples include alcohol-burning “can” stoves, smudge pots, improperly installed heaters, and propane burners with their regulators removed." [7] ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 15:55, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
At the top (paragraph 3), it says that isopropanol delivers the most energy. In the bulleted list under "Comparison with other stoves" it says, "These stoves operate marginally on 90% isopropyl alcohol" Aren't isoproponal and isopropyl alcohol the same? Is the point that vou need a higher percentage than 90%? Because it's not like you can have 100% pure isopropanol, because if it's exposed to air it dilutes itself (at least that is what I was taught--I can't prove it). And anyway, what is the information about the effects of different fuels on this stove doing in the "Comparison with other stoves section? The article doesn't say much about the fuels used in other stoves. It may be that all of the information is correct, but some explaination of the apparent discrepancy would be welcome. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.101.168 ( talk) 05:09, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
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