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There is a suggestion to merge the two articles into Bering Sea Gold ; for the discussion see Talk:Bering Sea Gold
-- 76.65.128.43 ( talk) 01:23, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
The latest Fall 2016 season is no longer "Under the Ice", it's just "Bering Sea Gold" with no distinguishing between this and the non-ice summer mining season show spring TV season show. This proves the two shows are not two shows, they are one show. "Under the Ice" is just something to separate the TV seasons -- 65.94.171.217 ( talk) 14:50, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Procedural close. Isn't this a bit of a hornet's nest! Since this discussion has not really been about renaming the two pages, but about merging the content, a procedural close is the correct way to go. This page apparently
was created in January 2013 and moved to mainspace by
AeroByte, just before the
merge proposal that closed as No consensus. That seems to have changed a bit in this discussion. What this situation seems to call for is summed up by
RadioKAOS : ...there should be one article to provide an encyclopedic overview of the program / franchise / whatever it is, while forking off the episode list(s) onto another article.
So it appears that a comprehensive merge with that restructuring in mind is what needs to be discussed to make this subject more encyclopedic. Caution to the involved editors, because what often happens is that someone will re-create the "Under the Ice" article after it's been merged and redirected to
Bering Sea Gold (if that garners consensus), so you might want to keep an eye out for that. (
non-admin closure)
Paine
u/
c 01:50, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
– The show formerly called "Under the Ice" no longer carries that title. For the last two seasons, it's been called "Bering Sea Gold" while the companion show has always been called "Bering Sea Gold". This either indicates that there has never been two separate TV shows, and it has always only been one TV show (ie. like 'SASUKE spring' and 'SASUKE autumn'), or there is no functional difference between the two shows (ie. like "Wipeout" and "Wipeout: Winter Edition"). As the "Under the Ice" show no longer carries that title, (not since 2014) it needs to be renamed. The "Under the Ice" show documents the spring dredging season under the sea ice (which aired in the autumn), while the original titled show documented the summer dredging season (which aired in the spring). Functionally, this could mean that "Under the Ice" be renamed Bering Sea Gold (formerly "Under the Ice") or Bering Sea Gold (spring mining season) or Bering Sea Gold (autumn TV season), and the originally named show could be Bering Sea Gold (not formerly "Under the Ice") or Bering Sea Gold (summer mining season) or Bering Sea Gold (spring TV season). If these two are in fact not two separate shows but only one show, then the articles should be merged. Whatever is the case, either merger or renaming needs to be done, as it can't remain the way it is since the two shows have the same name. -- 65.94.171.217 ( talk) 05:12, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
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Wikipedia's policy on article titles.The merge proposal #Merge Bering Sea Gold and Bering Sea Gold: Under The Ice was made in 2013, no record of why there was no consensus to do it but I'm guessing it was because the merged article, if it contained the level of detail of the current ones, would be rather long. Is it worth relisting to consider the consequences? Andrewa ( talk) 06:13, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
Merged in December 2018
Bering Sea Gold: Under The Ice → Bering Sea Gold
A new merger discussion has been opened at Talk:Bering Sea Gold#Merger discussion (2016). Please join that talk to decide the ultimate fate of this page. Paine u/ c 04:23, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
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talk page of a
redirect that targets the page: • Bering Sea Gold Because this page is not frequently watched, present and future discussions, edit requests and requested moves should take place at: • Talk:Bering Sea Gold |
Text and/or other creative content from this version of Bering Sea Gold was copied or moved into Bering Sea Gold: Under The Ice with this edit on 6 January 2013. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
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There is a suggestion to merge the two articles into Bering Sea Gold ; for the discussion see Talk:Bering Sea Gold
-- 76.65.128.43 ( talk) 01:23, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
The latest Fall 2016 season is no longer "Under the Ice", it's just "Bering Sea Gold" with no distinguishing between this and the non-ice summer mining season show spring TV season show. This proves the two shows are not two shows, they are one show. "Under the Ice" is just something to separate the TV seasons -- 65.94.171.217 ( talk) 14:50, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Procedural close. Isn't this a bit of a hornet's nest! Since this discussion has not really been about renaming the two pages, but about merging the content, a procedural close is the correct way to go. This page apparently
was created in January 2013 and moved to mainspace by
AeroByte, just before the
merge proposal that closed as No consensus. That seems to have changed a bit in this discussion. What this situation seems to call for is summed up by
RadioKAOS : ...there should be one article to provide an encyclopedic overview of the program / franchise / whatever it is, while forking off the episode list(s) onto another article.
So it appears that a comprehensive merge with that restructuring in mind is what needs to be discussed to make this subject more encyclopedic. Caution to the involved editors, because what often happens is that someone will re-create the "Under the Ice" article after it's been merged and redirected to
Bering Sea Gold (if that garners consensus), so you might want to keep an eye out for that. (
non-admin closure)
Paine
u/
c 01:50, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
– The show formerly called "Under the Ice" no longer carries that title. For the last two seasons, it's been called "Bering Sea Gold" while the companion show has always been called "Bering Sea Gold". This either indicates that there has never been two separate TV shows, and it has always only been one TV show (ie. like 'SASUKE spring' and 'SASUKE autumn'), or there is no functional difference between the two shows (ie. like "Wipeout" and "Wipeout: Winter Edition"). As the "Under the Ice" show no longer carries that title, (not since 2014) it needs to be renamed. The "Under the Ice" show documents the spring dredging season under the sea ice (which aired in the autumn), while the original titled show documented the summer dredging season (which aired in the spring). Functionally, this could mean that "Under the Ice" be renamed Bering Sea Gold (formerly "Under the Ice") or Bering Sea Gold (spring mining season) or Bering Sea Gold (autumn TV season), and the originally named show could be Bering Sea Gold (not formerly "Under the Ice") or Bering Sea Gold (summer mining season) or Bering Sea Gold (spring TV season). If these two are in fact not two separate shows but only one show, then the articles should be merged. Whatever is the case, either merger or renaming needs to be done, as it can't remain the way it is since the two shows have the same name. -- 65.94.171.217 ( talk) 05:12, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
or *'''Oppose'''
, then sign your comment with ~~~~
. Since
polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's policy on article titles.The merge proposal #Merge Bering Sea Gold and Bering Sea Gold: Under The Ice was made in 2013, no record of why there was no consensus to do it but I'm guessing it was because the merged article, if it contained the level of detail of the current ones, would be rather long. Is it worth relisting to consider the consequences? Andrewa ( talk) 06:13, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
Merged in December 2018
Bering Sea Gold: Under The Ice → Bering Sea Gold
A new merger discussion has been opened at Talk:Bering Sea Gold#Merger discussion (2016). Please join that talk to decide the ultimate fate of this page. Paine u/ c 04:23, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
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