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What happened? Up to August 2006, there was a section called "Controversy and Criticism" to which I contributed solid references to articles critical of the Bears' stereotypical gender roles. This section has now been replaced by "Praise and Comment" which now has a smattering of "blog" entries among its sources.
I'm not 100% sure but it appears the deletions were by a user "BerenstainMike". I guess you must be a fan. I don't mind keeping the "Praise & Comment" section because there are one or two good references there. But I went ahead and re-instated the Controvery & Criticism section (which still needs some work formatting the references)
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Someone removed the substantive criticism again, but left the orphaned References section. I don't care much about the criticism, but I put it back. If whoever hates the criticism decides to remove it again, please also remove the appropriate reference entries, thanks. -- VAcharon 01:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I was quite surprised to see that there isn't any mention at all of the Berenstain's aggressive feminist agenda in this article. Is that what's in the section that somebody keeps removing? I've read a bunch of these books with my kids, and it seemed that if there was ever an option for one of the children to be in a traditionally male role (a cop, a construction worker, a fireman), it would invariably be the sister bear, with the brother bear in the traditionally female roles. And Papa Bear is always tiresomely a bumbling idiot. Mama Bear is the only adult in the family. It's like one of those loathsome stupid man-clever woman ads. I finally put a moratorium on Berenstain books in my household for this reason. You might at least have a section describing that these highly-praised, wonderfully perfect and immaculate post feminist propaganda works for children are not 100% acceptable to everyone. - A Father who is not a bumbling idiot —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.255.96.101 ( talk) 12:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
FYI Mike Berenstain is the son who is continuing to write the books... if this is you Mike, and you are reverting text, please remember, this is a Wiki article, not your article. Billyshiverstick ( talk) 01:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
The article has not reported a variety of positive critiques of the Berenstain Bears books from various sources:
"The Berenstains have the extraordinary ability to communicate universal experiences and uplifting messages," -Laurie Norton Moffat, director of the Norman Rockwell Museum in Stockbridge, Mass.; NY Times, November 30, 2005
"They were able to take the real issues of children's lives and make them entertaining and not preachy," -Ilene Abramson, director of children's services at the Los Angeles Public Library; LA Times, November 30, 2005
"Among the generation of children growing up in the '70s and early '80s, The Berenstain Bears books are spoken of like zen koans, or like biblical allegories." -Aemillia Scott, Flak Magazine Online, November 30, 2005
Since great attention has been paid to negative critiques, it would seem appropriate to also include these positive comments as balance.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bookeditor9000 ( talk • contribs) 05:08, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
I definitely find the criticism/praise sections to be unbalanced, particularly for a Wiki. Frankly, you can find someone to complain about anything, but is that really the important thing about this book series? FusionDude ( talk) 00:07, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
Over the years, the Berenstains drew criticism for promoting long-outmoded gender roles and overly simple life lessons. But readers who love Bear Country consider it a place not unlike Mr. Rogers’s neighborhood, where a fixed storytelling routine and familiar characters bring comfort to children as they seek to navigate a world that becomes ever more complicated as they grow up.
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Papa Bear as the bumbling idiot makes him lovable while Mama is condescending hypocrite who is so perfect that it is downright insincere and tyrannical. Ninjaflight ( talk) 03:51, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I thought it was spelled "Bearenstain". john k 18:35, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'd like to propose that the article at least mention something along the lines of "the spelling is widely misremembered" and link that to another article which can discuss the psychological causes at play, the genuine distress people experience when they discover their memories aren't correct (or their tendency to believe rifts in spacetime theories instead!), the person who photoshopped the picture of the covers on the gray carpets in an attempt to point out what it's like to have Alzheimer's, etc. I don't think this should just be silenced, leaving people to wonder what's true. I only found out about this phenomenon a few weeks ago when I searched Google for "berenstein" idly to learn more about them, and was greeted with a page full of references to some conspiracy theory, which completely threw me for a loop. It took me a few days to really determine that Berenstain was the correct spelling and I myself had been misremembering! The sources I found from that Google search made me think initially that the name had been changed and wackos had decided aliens were involved, but for a couple of days I was telling my wife "apparently they changed their name and nut jobs think there's a conspiracy behind it." I'm an intelligent and generally well informed person--seems to me lots of others like me would benefit from a clear laying-out of the facts. Should I go ahead and create a new page on this topic, called e.g. "Berenstain Bears (conspiracy theory)" or something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.171.64.166 ( talk) 19:12, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
They have novel formatting? I thought it was all picture book format. Scorpionman 22:00, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
One of my favorite books when I was a kid was "The Berenstain Bears and the Spooky Old Tree." It does not appear to be listed here... I remember it featured only Brother and Sister Bear, and they were exploring the interior of a mammoth tree which combined equal parts cave (bats, dripping water, etc) and haunted house (there were staircases and evil-looking paintings in the interior) I remember the repeated tagline, "Do they dare (insert action here)?" and on the next page, "They dare!" Tmorrisey 21:53, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
There is no longer a themed section of Berenstain Bears at Cedar Point, much to my dismay. They have converted it to a Peanuts cartoon theme, although one can still see remnants of the unique Berenstain Bears-style architecture. If your curious, there was an indoor and outdoor section. Inside, there was a whole library of all the Berenstain Bears books, some woods (denoted by plastic trees and colored carpeting), a lab and other things I don't quite remember. The lab had this really cool bicycle that would power a lightbulb, lightning globes/plasma spheres, etc. Outside they had a sandpit, a little train, and a replica of the Berenstain Bears's home! I'm not the only one bitter about it turning into a Peanuts gift shop... -- Macrowiz 15:11, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
The same is true of Dorney Park in PA, although they're owned by the same company. -- Joewithajay 19:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Amazon.com reviews for several reasons:
unfortunately that leaves the religion controversy unsourced. Bantosh 9:32, 19 June 2006
Examples of critical user reviews from Amazon.com:
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Example of a Neutral Review from Amazon.com:
I'm a Humanist. Unlike the Richard Dawkinses out there, I don't believe in the eradication of Religion entirely, but in tolerating it as an alternative and mostly good view. Like The Bears themselves and their Grandparents in this book, my less immediate Family were and still are deeply faithful Methodists, and like the bears they were more in favour of using Religion as a connection between different people rather than a seperation between different faiths.
Richard Dawkins and some similarly-minded reviewers on this very page fall into the trap of believing that Religion is only one thing, and in their idea it is a force that makes people kill other people for a holy wars. Yet look into the stories of Buddhism and the traditions of Judeaism, spend one morning in a methodist Church and an afternoon in a Mosque, and you can see that the Average true believer couldn't care less who doesn't worship the way they do - all that matters to them Religion-Wise is Pleasing God, and the biggest rule of all Religions is: 'Do Unto Others as youw ould have them Do Unto You'...
...All I'm saying is that though I deeply respect all of the Berenstain family, it might be wise to revise their introduction to Religion. Children, when books are read to them, are 'Clean Slates' - their ideas are new and only vaguely affected by outside influence. Unlike TV & Gaming machines, a Book can give them an informed opinion of a subject - so we have to be careful not to give them one view, but let them choose from several." - Alex 'Gecko' Nuan.
I own a book, "The Berenstein Bears and the Busy Beavers" or something like that. They were given away in a kid's meal or some promotion. It is not mentioned and I know that 3 other books are mentioned on the back cover of the book. Anyone know about these and why they aren't listed? 162.83.123.76 02:40, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
This page seems very listy... is this really necessary? Timbatron 20:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
someone recently put in that papa bear is "gay"...
this must be someone's malicious act 12.36.123.2 20:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I want to find that post. It is no longer available. Ninjaflight ( talk) 03:54, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I wish someone would please list the books in chronological order as they were published, or maybe put the year they were first published at the end of each title. Like they do for other authors. Whoever out there knows the dates, please try. I would like to know which were the books from the 70s and 80s, regardless of their format. The article only makes clear that The Big Honey Hunt was the first. I would find it very helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.47.31.5 ( talk) 06:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Has there ever any controversy over the fact that this book promotes religion to young children? 70.179.52.204 ( talk) 03:36, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
GetReligion, the blog that reviews religious news stories has an entry for this controversy: http://www.getreligion.org/2010/10/new-yorker-fears-berenstain-bears/ in which they castigate the New Yorker's blog entry http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2010/10/the-berenstain-bears-get-an-app-and-find-god.html where the originator's son, Mike, explicitly says that he's moved the series in a Christian direction.
Jerryfern ( talk) 17:08, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
I was coming here to ask the same question, I was surprised by the latest Bears books my son brought home from the library, from the explicitly Christian "Living Lights" series. It was a real shock to me, and I'm surprised to see no mention of it here! Maybe I'll see if I can find an independent/neutral POV source and add to the "history" section? Mrs smartygirl ( talk) 23:47, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
There isn't any mention in the article that the Berenstain Bears are meant to be Jewish, although they have been added to :Category:Fictional Jews. Even though Stan & Jan say the bears are modeled after themselves, no mention is made that the authors are Jewish, either. - Gilliam ( talk) 03:48, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Agreed, unless someone points out otherwise, this category should be removed. Dustman15 ( talk) 00:11, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Amen, I mean they celebrate Christmas for crying out loud! (see "meet santa bear") —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.101.127.41 ( talk) 01:08, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Agreed, though Stan Berenstain was Jewish, Jan Berenstain was Episcopalian, and apparently that is how they raised their son, who now writes the stories. And according to the Jewish Telegraph, they are not Jewish. [1] Mmyers1976 ( talk) 14:57, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
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...I'd like to state that I was a HUGE fan of the Berenstain Bears as a kid, I still like them, and if I had a kid, I'd be happy for them to read the books. My persistent defense of the parts of the article that discuss criticism of the series is not because I have any kind of vendetta against the franchise; it's because, as far as I can see, there's no argument that this isn't significant, notable content. The Krauthammer piece was widely quoted as part of Stan Berenstain's obituary, for heaven's sake. And, oh my GOD, is it more interesting than a "Praise" section consisting of a few random quotes about how flippin' awesome the Berenstain Bears are. At least, I think so.
I would actually like to include more content in praise of the Bears, but I've had difficulty finding adequate sources. As I see it, the sources for the negative criticism are significant pieces, by significant writers, in significant publications. I don't want to tack on to the end, "Oh, and here's a quote by some random person in some tiny newspaper who includes the Berenstain Bears on a list of books that will make your kid less nervous about his first day of school." I would like to find commentary or accolades about the books that approaches the same level of notability as the current sources, and that happens to be positive rather than negative, as opposed to putting something in just because it's positive.
I don't think it's casting the Berenstain Bears in an unduly negative light if, amidst all the talk here about how massively successful and beloved the franchise is, we recognize that some people don't like it. Theoldsparkle ( talk) 16:10, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Positive articles in standard journals come up in searches, for instance, the Guardian and the Washington Post. See below:
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/feb/28/jan-berenstain
"The pair worked on more than 200 of the books about a family of pleasingly homely and disarmingly simple bears, which have been breakthrough titles for generations of emerging readers. The style was set in their first title, The Big Honey Hunt (1962): simple storytelling with a strong narrative core and a certain amount of familiarity and predictability, written in easy verse making good use of repetition, rhyme and rhythm. The stories were matched with vigorous cartoonish illustrations. With a nod of knowing sophistication between the storyteller and the reader, the books were witty and stylish rather than babyish."
Alison Petri
"They weren’t fashion-forward or avant-garde, but they scarcely needed to be. And there was a startling amount of warmth and life, in both the drawings and the descriptions. The honey looked delicious. The morals were simple to digest, with just enough sugar to help the medicine slide down.
And they hold up well — never so in style that they went out of fashion. Timeless, timely, and kind-hearted, like all the best literature."
Bookeditor9000 ( talk) 11:24, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
The statement, "While enjoying decades of popularity, the series has been criticized for its perceived saccharine tone and formulaic storytelling." in the introductory section appears redundant since these criticisms are detailed in the Criticism section. For this reason, it also appears to be an editorial comment--espousing and supporting these critiques as the view of the Wikipedia authors rather than opinions from sources neutrally reported. This impression is heightened by the fact that the intro does not balance the reference to negative opinion with positive ones which are also detailed later in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bookeditor9000 ( talk • contribs) 12:26, February 20, 2014
You said it Book editor. Ninjaflight ( talk) 22:29, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I feel this article has a huge hole in it. How did Stan and Jan divide their tasks, and collaborate? Was one the illustrator, one the writer? How did they develop storylines together? Perhaps Mike knows and can shed some light. I can't find the info in any of the related Wiki articles. Personally, I think a good Encyclopedia should dig into this. Let's not get too wrought up with the criticism, which most people don't care about. Let's tell the story here. Tx Billyshiverstick ( talk) 01:07, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
The article says: "Over the next several decades, Stan and Jan collaborated on hundreds of books from their home studio outside Philadelphia.[1][5] After developing a storyline together, one of them (usually Stan) would develop a first draft, which the other would then refine into a 1100-word manuscript. They also worked together on the illustrations." If you find a reliable source with more detail, you're free to add that detail or post the source here. Theoldsparkle ( talk) 22:14, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
The phrase "worked for the military as a medical illustrator" which appears early in the article to describe Stan Berenstain's activity during WWII would seem to imply that he was a civilian contractor working for the military. This is contradicted by obituaries stating that he was in the army during this period and worked as a medical illustrator while in the service: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/30/books/30berenstain.html 68.238.243.98 ( talk) 20:56, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Mike Berenstain 1951– (at LCCatalog) and editors continue the series.
See Talk:List of Berenstain Bears books#Recent, forthcoming, and future?
-- P64 ( talk) 21:57, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
This section has an appearance of being biased against the series. It's possible this is unintentional, but the combination of the opening sentence of the section calling the books "syrupy", "unsatisfying", etc., the statement that "The Berenstain Bears series has been called" all these negative things, without balancing it with praise the series has garnered seems to lend undue weight to the negative criticism. I believe that this can easily be fixed by writing a new opening sentence acknowledging that the series has received both praise and criticism. A further refinement would be to separate the praise and criticism into subsections. Generally praise is presented first, and criticism next. Also, the section should be called "reception", not "opinions" in keeping with MOS. Mmyers1976 ( talk) 19:51, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
People have criticized the Bible and Shakespeare, too. Ninjaflight ( talk) 22:25, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
The original name of the book series was "Berenstein Bears" not "Berenstain Bears" but it appears that the name was changed at a certain point in time and really no announcement of this change. I know for a fact it was originally the "Berenstein Bears" (you can find books with the original spelling) and other editors and people apparently notice this too, see: "Spelling" at the #2 talk section on this page. It appears they changed the name for some unbeknownst reason and never really mentioned why they changed it too -- does anyone know why and when this name change occurred? Also, why no mention of a name change in the article? A popular book series changing their name should definitely be included in the article. ShawntheGod ( talk) 09:33, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
It makes no sense, -stein is a Jewish name suffix while -stain has no history of usage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.13.173.112 ( talk) 12:28, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
On the subject of the changing of the spelling of the name/books, the pronounciation makes it seem like some sort of weird unexplainable change that has no physical evidence of what exactly happened took place. Let me also mention that there is no recording of the so-called change anywhere in our records or in any information about books and their titles. Why didn't anyone associate the word "stain" out of Berenstain? Key question: Why did so many of us wonder if we should pronounce the end of Berenstain steen or stine? Also, why did this happen to people with good memory/spelling/pronounciation skills?
The author (or publisher not sure how that works) printed at least 300 copies of the Berenstain Bears books in 23 other languages. It makes me wonder if these other people have had the same problem. I really think we should have some brilliant minds discuss this and come up with a way to test all of this data. There is also more data unaccounted for (like the people who never read the books or have never seen the name)
Also note that Stan Berenstain's father had the same spelling in his last name, his name is Harry Berenstain. I plan on trying to review his family tree when I get the time. I also seen that someone mentioned that Stan is Jewish. If this is in fact true, Stein is very common in Jewish names.
There is also the possibility of unrecorded misprints. There haven't been any turned in yet, and no photographs of them have been found either (other than photoshopped ones)
My personal opinion: To me, it is more unlikely that so many people (especially the ones who are good at memory/spelling/pronounciation) are making a mistake of this magnitude, especially in all three fields at once, but that is just an opinion. I find it highly unlikely, but I never threw it out as a possibility. Perhaps we did make a mistake. I understand that the human memory is anything but perfect, but is it really possible for so many of us to have the exact same "false" memory? Also, did we simply remember it that way just because somebody else suggested it? I do realize that maybe most of the people who made this so called "mistake" may also not have good memory/spelling/pronounciation skills. Thank you for reading through this.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymoususer620 ( talk • contribs) 18:47, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Edited-The statement about Berenstain Bears name being changed simply is not true. You will not find a single book called "The Berenstein Bears". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.160.46.244 ( talk) 01:14, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
I have photographic evidence of the Berenstein Bears books having existed. I found these in my attic. Here is the picture. http://imgur.com/dmAGrmL Can we please get a section about the name change? I don't know why people are so resistant to talking about the mysterious name change. 104.200.154.3 ( talk) 17:17, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello,
I only became aware today that 'Berenstein' had been changed to 'Berenstain' Bears.
I worked on the TV cartoons at Hanna Barbera in 1985 and it was 'Berenstein Bears' then.
J — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.31.172 ( talk) 05:55, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
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Nano - I actually like the fact that people are a crediting this to the Mandela effect. This could also mean that the 12 deciples of Jesus were under the same influence therefore discrediting the new testament or any religious book for that fact. Don't subject things biasly -— Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.74.69.192 ( talk • contribs) 10:01, August 14, 2015
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(SOMETHING CHANGED THEY WERE BERENSTEIN BUT NOW THEY NEVER WERE) many other things have also changed from the past and were not recorded in the original way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.192.110.210 ( talk) 09:31, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
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LCCN gives year of record creation as first two digits until 99=1999, first four digits thereafter. Evidently the authority records for Stan and Jan were created only in 1979, Mike in 1980. The earliest LCCat record for work as by "Stan" or "Jan" is 1964 for The Bike Lesson (1964) [7] --the second B Bears book, i think. The only later records for work as by "Stanley" or "Janice" are from 1967 and 1978--for 1971 publication, their names given in square brackets. -- P64 ( talk) 18:15, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Berenstain is not German Jews, they are Ukrainian Jews. Ninjaflight ( talk) 22:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I'm not going to pick a side on the Berenstain or Berenstein fiasco, but regardless, I think this article should be somewhat protected. Just looking through the edit history in the past month shows multiple cases of individuals changing every instance of the word Berenstain to Berenstein. Unless people want the vandalism to continue, I would suggest some sort of protection. Snax28 ( talk) 05:55, 24 May 2016 (UTC)Snax28
Yes, there is occasional editing of the article based on (A) people misremembering a proper noun's spelling from childhood or (B) the existence of an entirely separate universe which is identical in every way to this one except that the people who can't clearly remember details from childhood aren't yapping about it.* That said, the edits aren't frequent enough to merit page protection.
As to adding content to ward off the edits, we would need discussion of this in a reliable source that is discussing the Berenstain Bears not the supposed effect. Otherwise, the supposed effect is simply not significant to the Berenstain Bears, the subject of this article. As an example: A source discussing Futurama will likely mention Richard Nixon's head. Richard Nixon's head, therefore, is mentioned in Futurama. A source on Richard Nixon is unlikely to mention Futurama. Richard Nixon does not mention Futurama. (Similarly, Gerald Ford does discuss SNL because the New York Times quotes Ford discussing SNL.)
*In a cooler version of this universe someone noticed the spelling as an adult, mentioned it to a friend at lunch, applied Occam's razor, shrugged their shoulders and went back to discussing Game of Thrones. - SummerPhD v2.0 14:16, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
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I don’t know why haters hate. Ninjaflight ( talk) 22:31, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I put in a request for an editnotice for this article. For those unfamiliar with editnotices (as I was until today), an editnotice is only displayed when someone clicks on the "edit" tab, and informs them of a common incorrect edit before they make it. This will of course not deter the determined vandals and conspiracy theorists, but should reduce the number of good-faith editors who think they are correcting a misspelling. If you are interested in giving input on the exact wording of the editnotice, you may do so here: Template talk:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain Bears Mmyers1976 ( talk) 16:47, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
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Spelling It "was" Berenstein Bears. I took survey of it. I used to own the whole child's hard-back collection of the Berenstein Bears and it was one of my favorites growing up. My parents know they didn't misinterpret the title and all of my neighbors know as well. Even the young mother I gave the series to, knows it wasn't Berenstain....how do you get "stein" from "STAIN" ???? You guys might not want to admit it, however, I also remember vividly, "mirror mirror on the wall, who's the farest of them all." I used to quote Disney movies as a child..it was my thing. Now it's "Magic mirror on the wall..." also Forrest Gump! "mamma always told me life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what youre gonna get."...now it's "Life WAS like a box of chocolates"...that doesn't even make sense!!!!!???????? It could just be a huge hoax on America, a screwy joke by FOX or MGM or Disney... but you gotta admit it's different.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.96.138.169 ( talk • contribs) 11:23, June 12, 2016
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I see that this page has been placed in categories like "novels adapted into plays" and "novels adapted into video games". This article is about the Berenstain Bears franchise, which includes all the iterations. These categories are misleading, they should be appended to the individual works within the franchise, not to the franchise itself. Mmyers1976 ( talk) 15:39, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
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I'd make the change myself if the article weren't semi-protected, but could we correct the Mandela effect link to False_memory#Commonly_held_false_memories? I'm sure the link worked in the past, but it doesn't now. 2A02:C7D:8A3D:DF00:B86A:4D6A:A9D6:8661 ( talk) 07:47, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
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There is a possibly misleading statement in this article--that during World War II Stan Berenstain "worked for the Army as a medical illustrator". This is ambiguous and could be taken to mean he was not actually in the Army but was a civilian contractor. Many sources make it clear that Stan Berenstain was drafted and actually served in the US Army for three years during the war. He was assigned to a medical unit at Camp Atterbury, Indiana where, because of his art training, he worked as a medical illustrator. Source: http://www.indianamilitary.org/Camp%20Atterbury/SpecialPeople/Berenstain/Berenstain.htm This may seem like a fine distinction. But out of respect for all military veterans, especially those who served during wartime, this is something that deserves to be clarified.
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A critic complain that these stories have no sentiments. They wonder where the warmth and the spirit of discovery and imagination in Bear Country is or the subtlety and plain old joy in them? How can the Bears? No offense but I always over analyzed things. I believe Bear Country is not a free country. It is like asking dictatorship to have imagination or plain old joy? Any bear that does that will be put in prison or be like what happened to Dumbo's mother for protecting her calf from human bullies. Take Papa. He does make fine furniture that people like such as chairs. He is limited to capitialism and to the cancel culture. He cannot make Chinese wedding ward robes for the pandas because it is racist, insensitive, and unheard of. Something even less more creative or wonder ness might get Papa in a strait jacket. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ninjabot2 ( talk • contribs) 07:08, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
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What happened? Up to August 2006, there was a section called "Controversy and Criticism" to which I contributed solid references to articles critical of the Bears' stereotypical gender roles. This section has now been replaced by "Praise and Comment" which now has a smattering of "blog" entries among its sources.
I'm not 100% sure but it appears the deletions were by a user "BerenstainMike". I guess you must be a fan. I don't mind keeping the "Praise & Comment" section because there are one or two good references there. But I went ahead and re-instated the Controvery & Criticism section (which still needs some work formatting the references)
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Someone removed the substantive criticism again, but left the orphaned References section. I don't care much about the criticism, but I put it back. If whoever hates the criticism decides to remove it again, please also remove the appropriate reference entries, thanks. -- VAcharon 01:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I was quite surprised to see that there isn't any mention at all of the Berenstain's aggressive feminist agenda in this article. Is that what's in the section that somebody keeps removing? I've read a bunch of these books with my kids, and it seemed that if there was ever an option for one of the children to be in a traditionally male role (a cop, a construction worker, a fireman), it would invariably be the sister bear, with the brother bear in the traditionally female roles. And Papa Bear is always tiresomely a bumbling idiot. Mama Bear is the only adult in the family. It's like one of those loathsome stupid man-clever woman ads. I finally put a moratorium on Berenstain books in my household for this reason. You might at least have a section describing that these highly-praised, wonderfully perfect and immaculate post feminist propaganda works for children are not 100% acceptable to everyone. - A Father who is not a bumbling idiot —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.255.96.101 ( talk) 12:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
FYI Mike Berenstain is the son who is continuing to write the books... if this is you Mike, and you are reverting text, please remember, this is a Wiki article, not your article. Billyshiverstick ( talk) 01:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
The article has not reported a variety of positive critiques of the Berenstain Bears books from various sources:
"The Berenstains have the extraordinary ability to communicate universal experiences and uplifting messages," -Laurie Norton Moffat, director of the Norman Rockwell Museum in Stockbridge, Mass.; NY Times, November 30, 2005
"They were able to take the real issues of children's lives and make them entertaining and not preachy," -Ilene Abramson, director of children's services at the Los Angeles Public Library; LA Times, November 30, 2005
"Among the generation of children growing up in the '70s and early '80s, The Berenstain Bears books are spoken of like zen koans, or like biblical allegories." -Aemillia Scott, Flak Magazine Online, November 30, 2005
Since great attention has been paid to negative critiques, it would seem appropriate to also include these positive comments as balance.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bookeditor9000 ( talk • contribs) 05:08, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
I definitely find the criticism/praise sections to be unbalanced, particularly for a Wiki. Frankly, you can find someone to complain about anything, but is that really the important thing about this book series? FusionDude ( talk) 00:07, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
Over the years, the Berenstains drew criticism for promoting long-outmoded gender roles and overly simple life lessons. But readers who love Bear Country consider it a place not unlike Mr. Rogers’s neighborhood, where a fixed storytelling routine and familiar characters bring comfort to children as they seek to navigate a world that becomes ever more complicated as they grow up.
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Papa Bear as the bumbling idiot makes him lovable while Mama is condescending hypocrite who is so perfect that it is downright insincere and tyrannical. Ninjaflight ( talk) 03:51, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I thought it was spelled "Bearenstain". john k 18:35, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'd like to propose that the article at least mention something along the lines of "the spelling is widely misremembered" and link that to another article which can discuss the psychological causes at play, the genuine distress people experience when they discover their memories aren't correct (or their tendency to believe rifts in spacetime theories instead!), the person who photoshopped the picture of the covers on the gray carpets in an attempt to point out what it's like to have Alzheimer's, etc. I don't think this should just be silenced, leaving people to wonder what's true. I only found out about this phenomenon a few weeks ago when I searched Google for "berenstein" idly to learn more about them, and was greeted with a page full of references to some conspiracy theory, which completely threw me for a loop. It took me a few days to really determine that Berenstain was the correct spelling and I myself had been misremembering! The sources I found from that Google search made me think initially that the name had been changed and wackos had decided aliens were involved, but for a couple of days I was telling my wife "apparently they changed their name and nut jobs think there's a conspiracy behind it." I'm an intelligent and generally well informed person--seems to me lots of others like me would benefit from a clear laying-out of the facts. Should I go ahead and create a new page on this topic, called e.g. "Berenstain Bears (conspiracy theory)" or something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.171.64.166 ( talk) 19:12, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
They have novel formatting? I thought it was all picture book format. Scorpionman 22:00, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
One of my favorite books when I was a kid was "The Berenstain Bears and the Spooky Old Tree." It does not appear to be listed here... I remember it featured only Brother and Sister Bear, and they were exploring the interior of a mammoth tree which combined equal parts cave (bats, dripping water, etc) and haunted house (there were staircases and evil-looking paintings in the interior) I remember the repeated tagline, "Do they dare (insert action here)?" and on the next page, "They dare!" Tmorrisey 21:53, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
There is no longer a themed section of Berenstain Bears at Cedar Point, much to my dismay. They have converted it to a Peanuts cartoon theme, although one can still see remnants of the unique Berenstain Bears-style architecture. If your curious, there was an indoor and outdoor section. Inside, there was a whole library of all the Berenstain Bears books, some woods (denoted by plastic trees and colored carpeting), a lab and other things I don't quite remember. The lab had this really cool bicycle that would power a lightbulb, lightning globes/plasma spheres, etc. Outside they had a sandpit, a little train, and a replica of the Berenstain Bears's home! I'm not the only one bitter about it turning into a Peanuts gift shop... -- Macrowiz 15:11, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
The same is true of Dorney Park in PA, although they're owned by the same company. -- Joewithajay 19:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Amazon.com reviews for several reasons:
unfortunately that leaves the religion controversy unsourced. Bantosh 9:32, 19 June 2006
Examples of critical user reviews from Amazon.com:
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Example of a Neutral Review from Amazon.com:
I'm a Humanist. Unlike the Richard Dawkinses out there, I don't believe in the eradication of Religion entirely, but in tolerating it as an alternative and mostly good view. Like The Bears themselves and their Grandparents in this book, my less immediate Family were and still are deeply faithful Methodists, and like the bears they were more in favour of using Religion as a connection between different people rather than a seperation between different faiths.
Richard Dawkins and some similarly-minded reviewers on this very page fall into the trap of believing that Religion is only one thing, and in their idea it is a force that makes people kill other people for a holy wars. Yet look into the stories of Buddhism and the traditions of Judeaism, spend one morning in a methodist Church and an afternoon in a Mosque, and you can see that the Average true believer couldn't care less who doesn't worship the way they do - all that matters to them Religion-Wise is Pleasing God, and the biggest rule of all Religions is: 'Do Unto Others as youw ould have them Do Unto You'...
...All I'm saying is that though I deeply respect all of the Berenstain family, it might be wise to revise their introduction to Religion. Children, when books are read to them, are 'Clean Slates' - their ideas are new and only vaguely affected by outside influence. Unlike TV & Gaming machines, a Book can give them an informed opinion of a subject - so we have to be careful not to give them one view, but let them choose from several." - Alex 'Gecko' Nuan.
I own a book, "The Berenstein Bears and the Busy Beavers" or something like that. They were given away in a kid's meal or some promotion. It is not mentioned and I know that 3 other books are mentioned on the back cover of the book. Anyone know about these and why they aren't listed? 162.83.123.76 02:40, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
This page seems very listy... is this really necessary? Timbatron 20:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
someone recently put in that papa bear is "gay"...
this must be someone's malicious act 12.36.123.2 20:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I want to find that post. It is no longer available. Ninjaflight ( talk) 03:54, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I wish someone would please list the books in chronological order as they were published, or maybe put the year they were first published at the end of each title. Like they do for other authors. Whoever out there knows the dates, please try. I would like to know which were the books from the 70s and 80s, regardless of their format. The article only makes clear that The Big Honey Hunt was the first. I would find it very helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.47.31.5 ( talk) 06:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Has there ever any controversy over the fact that this book promotes religion to young children? 70.179.52.204 ( talk) 03:36, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
GetReligion, the blog that reviews religious news stories has an entry for this controversy: http://www.getreligion.org/2010/10/new-yorker-fears-berenstain-bears/ in which they castigate the New Yorker's blog entry http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2010/10/the-berenstain-bears-get-an-app-and-find-god.html where the originator's son, Mike, explicitly says that he's moved the series in a Christian direction.
Jerryfern ( talk) 17:08, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
I was coming here to ask the same question, I was surprised by the latest Bears books my son brought home from the library, from the explicitly Christian "Living Lights" series. It was a real shock to me, and I'm surprised to see no mention of it here! Maybe I'll see if I can find an independent/neutral POV source and add to the "history" section? Mrs smartygirl ( talk) 23:47, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
There isn't any mention in the article that the Berenstain Bears are meant to be Jewish, although they have been added to :Category:Fictional Jews. Even though Stan & Jan say the bears are modeled after themselves, no mention is made that the authors are Jewish, either. - Gilliam ( talk) 03:48, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Agreed, unless someone points out otherwise, this category should be removed. Dustman15 ( talk) 00:11, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Amen, I mean they celebrate Christmas for crying out loud! (see "meet santa bear") —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.101.127.41 ( talk) 01:08, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Agreed, though Stan Berenstain was Jewish, Jan Berenstain was Episcopalian, and apparently that is how they raised their son, who now writes the stories. And according to the Jewish Telegraph, they are not Jewish. [1] Mmyers1976 ( talk) 14:57, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
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...I'd like to state that I was a HUGE fan of the Berenstain Bears as a kid, I still like them, and if I had a kid, I'd be happy for them to read the books. My persistent defense of the parts of the article that discuss criticism of the series is not because I have any kind of vendetta against the franchise; it's because, as far as I can see, there's no argument that this isn't significant, notable content. The Krauthammer piece was widely quoted as part of Stan Berenstain's obituary, for heaven's sake. And, oh my GOD, is it more interesting than a "Praise" section consisting of a few random quotes about how flippin' awesome the Berenstain Bears are. At least, I think so.
I would actually like to include more content in praise of the Bears, but I've had difficulty finding adequate sources. As I see it, the sources for the negative criticism are significant pieces, by significant writers, in significant publications. I don't want to tack on to the end, "Oh, and here's a quote by some random person in some tiny newspaper who includes the Berenstain Bears on a list of books that will make your kid less nervous about his first day of school." I would like to find commentary or accolades about the books that approaches the same level of notability as the current sources, and that happens to be positive rather than negative, as opposed to putting something in just because it's positive.
I don't think it's casting the Berenstain Bears in an unduly negative light if, amidst all the talk here about how massively successful and beloved the franchise is, we recognize that some people don't like it. Theoldsparkle ( talk) 16:10, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Positive articles in standard journals come up in searches, for instance, the Guardian and the Washington Post. See below:
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/feb/28/jan-berenstain
"The pair worked on more than 200 of the books about a family of pleasingly homely and disarmingly simple bears, which have been breakthrough titles for generations of emerging readers. The style was set in their first title, The Big Honey Hunt (1962): simple storytelling with a strong narrative core and a certain amount of familiarity and predictability, written in easy verse making good use of repetition, rhyme and rhythm. The stories were matched with vigorous cartoonish illustrations. With a nod of knowing sophistication between the storyteller and the reader, the books were witty and stylish rather than babyish."
Alison Petri
"They weren’t fashion-forward or avant-garde, but they scarcely needed to be. And there was a startling amount of warmth and life, in both the drawings and the descriptions. The honey looked delicious. The morals were simple to digest, with just enough sugar to help the medicine slide down.
And they hold up well — never so in style that they went out of fashion. Timeless, timely, and kind-hearted, like all the best literature."
Bookeditor9000 ( talk) 11:24, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
The statement, "While enjoying decades of popularity, the series has been criticized for its perceived saccharine tone and formulaic storytelling." in the introductory section appears redundant since these criticisms are detailed in the Criticism section. For this reason, it also appears to be an editorial comment--espousing and supporting these critiques as the view of the Wikipedia authors rather than opinions from sources neutrally reported. This impression is heightened by the fact that the intro does not balance the reference to negative opinion with positive ones which are also detailed later in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bookeditor9000 ( talk • contribs) 12:26, February 20, 2014
You said it Book editor. Ninjaflight ( talk) 22:29, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I feel this article has a huge hole in it. How did Stan and Jan divide their tasks, and collaborate? Was one the illustrator, one the writer? How did they develop storylines together? Perhaps Mike knows and can shed some light. I can't find the info in any of the related Wiki articles. Personally, I think a good Encyclopedia should dig into this. Let's not get too wrought up with the criticism, which most people don't care about. Let's tell the story here. Tx Billyshiverstick ( talk) 01:07, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
The article says: "Over the next several decades, Stan and Jan collaborated on hundreds of books from their home studio outside Philadelphia.[1][5] After developing a storyline together, one of them (usually Stan) would develop a first draft, which the other would then refine into a 1100-word manuscript. They also worked together on the illustrations." If you find a reliable source with more detail, you're free to add that detail or post the source here. Theoldsparkle ( talk) 22:14, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
The phrase "worked for the military as a medical illustrator" which appears early in the article to describe Stan Berenstain's activity during WWII would seem to imply that he was a civilian contractor working for the military. This is contradicted by obituaries stating that he was in the army during this period and worked as a medical illustrator while in the service: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/30/books/30berenstain.html 68.238.243.98 ( talk) 20:56, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Mike Berenstain 1951– (at LCCatalog) and editors continue the series.
See Talk:List of Berenstain Bears books#Recent, forthcoming, and future?
-- P64 ( talk) 21:57, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
This section has an appearance of being biased against the series. It's possible this is unintentional, but the combination of the opening sentence of the section calling the books "syrupy", "unsatisfying", etc., the statement that "The Berenstain Bears series has been called" all these negative things, without balancing it with praise the series has garnered seems to lend undue weight to the negative criticism. I believe that this can easily be fixed by writing a new opening sentence acknowledging that the series has received both praise and criticism. A further refinement would be to separate the praise and criticism into subsections. Generally praise is presented first, and criticism next. Also, the section should be called "reception", not "opinions" in keeping with MOS. Mmyers1976 ( talk) 19:51, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
People have criticized the Bible and Shakespeare, too. Ninjaflight ( talk) 22:25, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
The original name of the book series was "Berenstein Bears" not "Berenstain Bears" but it appears that the name was changed at a certain point in time and really no announcement of this change. I know for a fact it was originally the "Berenstein Bears" (you can find books with the original spelling) and other editors and people apparently notice this too, see: "Spelling" at the #2 talk section on this page. It appears they changed the name for some unbeknownst reason and never really mentioned why they changed it too -- does anyone know why and when this name change occurred? Also, why no mention of a name change in the article? A popular book series changing their name should definitely be included in the article. ShawntheGod ( talk) 09:33, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
It makes no sense, -stein is a Jewish name suffix while -stain has no history of usage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.13.173.112 ( talk) 12:28, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
On the subject of the changing of the spelling of the name/books, the pronounciation makes it seem like some sort of weird unexplainable change that has no physical evidence of what exactly happened took place. Let me also mention that there is no recording of the so-called change anywhere in our records or in any information about books and their titles. Why didn't anyone associate the word "stain" out of Berenstain? Key question: Why did so many of us wonder if we should pronounce the end of Berenstain steen or stine? Also, why did this happen to people with good memory/spelling/pronounciation skills?
The author (or publisher not sure how that works) printed at least 300 copies of the Berenstain Bears books in 23 other languages. It makes me wonder if these other people have had the same problem. I really think we should have some brilliant minds discuss this and come up with a way to test all of this data. There is also more data unaccounted for (like the people who never read the books or have never seen the name)
Also note that Stan Berenstain's father had the same spelling in his last name, his name is Harry Berenstain. I plan on trying to review his family tree when I get the time. I also seen that someone mentioned that Stan is Jewish. If this is in fact true, Stein is very common in Jewish names.
There is also the possibility of unrecorded misprints. There haven't been any turned in yet, and no photographs of them have been found either (other than photoshopped ones)
My personal opinion: To me, it is more unlikely that so many people (especially the ones who are good at memory/spelling/pronounciation) are making a mistake of this magnitude, especially in all three fields at once, but that is just an opinion. I find it highly unlikely, but I never threw it out as a possibility. Perhaps we did make a mistake. I understand that the human memory is anything but perfect, but is it really possible for so many of us to have the exact same "false" memory? Also, did we simply remember it that way just because somebody else suggested it? I do realize that maybe most of the people who made this so called "mistake" may also not have good memory/spelling/pronounciation skills. Thank you for reading through this.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymoususer620 ( talk • contribs) 18:47, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Edited-The statement about Berenstain Bears name being changed simply is not true. You will not find a single book called "The Berenstein Bears". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.160.46.244 ( talk) 01:14, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
I have photographic evidence of the Berenstein Bears books having existed. I found these in my attic. Here is the picture. http://imgur.com/dmAGrmL Can we please get a section about the name change? I don't know why people are so resistant to talking about the mysterious name change. 104.200.154.3 ( talk) 17:17, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello,
I only became aware today that 'Berenstein' had been changed to 'Berenstain' Bears.
I worked on the TV cartoons at Hanna Barbera in 1985 and it was 'Berenstein Bears' then.
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Nano - I actually like the fact that people are a crediting this to the Mandela effect. This could also mean that the 12 deciples of Jesus were under the same influence therefore discrediting the new testament or any religious book for that fact. Don't subject things biasly -— Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.74.69.192 ( talk • contribs) 10:01, August 14, 2015
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(SOMETHING CHANGED THEY WERE BERENSTEIN BUT NOW THEY NEVER WERE) many other things have also changed from the past and were not recorded in the original way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.192.110.210 ( talk) 09:31, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
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LCCN gives year of record creation as first two digits until 99=1999, first four digits thereafter. Evidently the authority records for Stan and Jan were created only in 1979, Mike in 1980. The earliest LCCat record for work as by "Stan" or "Jan" is 1964 for The Bike Lesson (1964) [7] --the second B Bears book, i think. The only later records for work as by "Stanley" or "Janice" are from 1967 and 1978--for 1971 publication, their names given in square brackets. -- P64 ( talk) 18:15, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Berenstain is not German Jews, they are Ukrainian Jews. Ninjaflight ( talk) 22:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I'm not going to pick a side on the Berenstain or Berenstein fiasco, but regardless, I think this article should be somewhat protected. Just looking through the edit history in the past month shows multiple cases of individuals changing every instance of the word Berenstain to Berenstein. Unless people want the vandalism to continue, I would suggest some sort of protection. Snax28 ( talk) 05:55, 24 May 2016 (UTC)Snax28
Yes, there is occasional editing of the article based on (A) people misremembering a proper noun's spelling from childhood or (B) the existence of an entirely separate universe which is identical in every way to this one except that the people who can't clearly remember details from childhood aren't yapping about it.* That said, the edits aren't frequent enough to merit page protection.
As to adding content to ward off the edits, we would need discussion of this in a reliable source that is discussing the Berenstain Bears not the supposed effect. Otherwise, the supposed effect is simply not significant to the Berenstain Bears, the subject of this article. As an example: A source discussing Futurama will likely mention Richard Nixon's head. Richard Nixon's head, therefore, is mentioned in Futurama. A source on Richard Nixon is unlikely to mention Futurama. Richard Nixon does not mention Futurama. (Similarly, Gerald Ford does discuss SNL because the New York Times quotes Ford discussing SNL.)
*In a cooler version of this universe someone noticed the spelling as an adult, mentioned it to a friend at lunch, applied Occam's razor, shrugged their shoulders and went back to discussing Game of Thrones. - SummerPhD v2.0 14:16, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
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I don’t know why haters hate. Ninjaflight ( talk) 22:31, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I put in a request for an editnotice for this article. For those unfamiliar with editnotices (as I was until today), an editnotice is only displayed when someone clicks on the "edit" tab, and informs them of a common incorrect edit before they make it. This will of course not deter the determined vandals and conspiracy theorists, but should reduce the number of good-faith editors who think they are correcting a misspelling. If you are interested in giving input on the exact wording of the editnotice, you may do so here: Template talk:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain Bears Mmyers1976 ( talk) 16:47, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
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Spelling It "was" Berenstein Bears. I took survey of it. I used to own the whole child's hard-back collection of the Berenstein Bears and it was one of my favorites growing up. My parents know they didn't misinterpret the title and all of my neighbors know as well. Even the young mother I gave the series to, knows it wasn't Berenstain....how do you get "stein" from "STAIN" ???? You guys might not want to admit it, however, I also remember vividly, "mirror mirror on the wall, who's the farest of them all." I used to quote Disney movies as a child..it was my thing. Now it's "Magic mirror on the wall..." also Forrest Gump! "mamma always told me life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what youre gonna get."...now it's "Life WAS like a box of chocolates"...that doesn't even make sense!!!!!???????? It could just be a huge hoax on America, a screwy joke by FOX or MGM or Disney... but you gotta admit it's different.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.96.138.169 ( talk • contribs) 11:23, June 12, 2016
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I see that this page has been placed in categories like "novels adapted into plays" and "novels adapted into video games". This article is about the Berenstain Bears franchise, which includes all the iterations. These categories are misleading, they should be appended to the individual works within the franchise, not to the franchise itself. Mmyers1976 ( talk) 15:39, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
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Hello,
Here's my possibility question: What would you think Universal Parks & Resorts would license Berenstain Bears and use it to appear at their parks, as Universal's own attractions based on the series, in the future?
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I'd make the change myself if the article weren't semi-protected, but could we correct the Mandela effect link to False_memory#Commonly_held_false_memories? I'm sure the link worked in the past, but it doesn't now. 2A02:C7D:8A3D:DF00:B86A:4D6A:A9D6:8661 ( talk) 07:47, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
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There is a possibly misleading statement in this article--that during World War II Stan Berenstain "worked for the Army as a medical illustrator". This is ambiguous and could be taken to mean he was not actually in the Army but was a civilian contractor. Many sources make it clear that Stan Berenstain was drafted and actually served in the US Army for three years during the war. He was assigned to a medical unit at Camp Atterbury, Indiana where, because of his art training, he worked as a medical illustrator. Source: http://www.indianamilitary.org/Camp%20Atterbury/SpecialPeople/Berenstain/Berenstain.htm This may seem like a fine distinction. But out of respect for all military veterans, especially those who served during wartime, this is something that deserves to be clarified.
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A critic complain that these stories have no sentiments. They wonder where the warmth and the spirit of discovery and imagination in Bear Country is or the subtlety and plain old joy in them? How can the Bears? No offense but I always over analyzed things. I believe Bear Country is not a free country. It is like asking dictatorship to have imagination or plain old joy? Any bear that does that will be put in prison or be like what happened to Dumbo's mother for protecting her calf from human bullies. Take Papa. He does make fine furniture that people like such as chairs. He is limited to capitialism and to the cancel culture. He cannot make Chinese wedding ward robes for the pandas because it is racist, insensitive, and unheard of. Something even less more creative or wonder ness might get Papa in a strait jacket. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ninjabot2 ( talk • contribs) 07:08, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
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'According to Mike Berenstain, confusion over the name has existed since his father's childhood, when a teacher told him there was no such name as "Berenstain" and the correct spelling was "Bernstein," adding that she didn't approve of people who "changed their names."'
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'According to Mike Berenstain, confusion over the name has existed since his father's childhood, when a teacher told him there was no such name as "Berenstain" and the correct spelling was "Berenstein."' Volume-county ( talk) 16:16, 20 February 2023 (UTC)