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Overhaul

I am currently in the process of completely rewriting this article so it is more comprehensive and includes inline citations to more than one source. If anybody's interested, you can monitor my progress in my sandbox. Comment here if you'd like to contribute. Dugan Murphy ( talk) 02:32, 10 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Overhaul complete! Dugan Murphy ( talk) 20:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93  talk  02:43, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Source: Pages 197 and 198 of this book detail how Benjamin Jackson enlisted in the Union Navy in May 1864 as a substitute for a US citizen named Lewis Saunders, who was drafted, but had the opportunity to pay for a substitute to take his place. The fee Jackson received was likely at least $300. Because Jackson served as a substitute, he was enlisted under the Saunders name.
5x expanded by Dugan Murphy ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

Dugan Murphy ( talk) 22:35, 14 June 2024 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Can't find any mention of 300 dollars in the book, accepted in good faith. TheNuggeteer ( talk) 07:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC) reply


Following the MOS

@ Avi8tor: You just posted to my talk page, but given the subject, I think it's more appropriate to reply here. You said:

Hello Dugan Murphy. I notice you removed the convert template for Benjamin Jackson (sailor), contrary to the Manual of style. Wikipedia's aim is educating readers worldwide, the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers/Units of measurement, states: that except for the USA and the UK, "the primary units chosen will be SI units", with a convert template, so no matter where you live, the reader will understand the unit. I'll add the convert template again to the article. Best regards, Avi8tor (talk) 05:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

I removed your addition of the convert template because I was applying MOS:TIES to numbers. But having read more of the MOS, I agree with you that MOS:UNIT seems to apply better to this question. Because you didn't cite the MOS in your edit summary, introduced a grammar issue, and didn't add it consistently throughout the article, it didn't look to me like an attempt to improve the article. I'll fix the consistency and grammar issues right now. In the end, I think the article will better match MOS guidelines for the combined effort. Thank you for helping to improve this article! Dugan Murphy ( talk) 14:07, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks Dugan Murphy, The only item I changed was adding a convert template because I use hectares and it was missing. So no grammar issues there but I'm glad we're on the same page now. Regards, Avi8tor ( talk) 15:49, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Overhaul

I am currently in the process of completely rewriting this article so it is more comprehensive and includes inline citations to more than one source. If anybody's interested, you can monitor my progress in my sandbox. Comment here if you'd like to contribute. Dugan Murphy ( talk) 02:32, 10 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Overhaul complete! Dugan Murphy ( talk) 20:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93  talk  02:43, 7 July 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Source: Pages 197 and 198 of this book detail how Benjamin Jackson enlisted in the Union Navy in May 1864 as a substitute for a US citizen named Lewis Saunders, who was drafted, but had the opportunity to pay for a substitute to take his place. The fee Jackson received was likely at least $300. Because Jackson served as a substitute, he was enlisted under the Saunders name.
5x expanded by Dugan Murphy ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

Dugan Murphy ( talk) 22:35, 14 June 2024 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Can't find any mention of 300 dollars in the book, accepted in good faith. TheNuggeteer ( talk) 07:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC) reply


Following the MOS

@ Avi8tor: You just posted to my talk page, but given the subject, I think it's more appropriate to reply here. You said:

Hello Dugan Murphy. I notice you removed the convert template for Benjamin Jackson (sailor), contrary to the Manual of style. Wikipedia's aim is educating readers worldwide, the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers/Units of measurement, states: that except for the USA and the UK, "the primary units chosen will be SI units", with a convert template, so no matter where you live, the reader will understand the unit. I'll add the convert template again to the article. Best regards, Avi8tor (talk) 05:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

I removed your addition of the convert template because I was applying MOS:TIES to numbers. But having read more of the MOS, I agree with you that MOS:UNIT seems to apply better to this question. Because you didn't cite the MOS in your edit summary, introduced a grammar issue, and didn't add it consistently throughout the article, it didn't look to me like an attempt to improve the article. I'll fix the consistency and grammar issues right now. In the end, I think the article will better match MOS guidelines for the combined effort. Thank you for helping to improve this article! Dugan Murphy ( talk) 14:07, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks Dugan Murphy, The only item I changed was adding a convert template because I use hectares and it was missing. So no grammar issues there but I'm glad we're on the same page now. Regards, Avi8tor ( talk) 15:49, 18 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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