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I will revert the last contrib it seems to fail NPOV to me see : http://www.grandprix.com/gt/gt00044.html and http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/cref-czatad.html for more information. Ericd 19:33, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think that the nationality of this team was originaly UK and changed to Italy in 1996 or 1997. But, my memory is not certain. Is it my misunderstanding? -- Morio 21:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
The company that ran Benetton was Benetton Formula Ltd, which is a company in the UK and never from Italy. Italy does not call its companies limited. Private Limited Companies by Quotas are known as società a responsabilità limitata or S.r.l. Even if the Benetton family are Italian. Renault bought the company in 2000 but it was not run as a French constructor until it called its self Renault. ( Darmech ( talk) 18:08, 30 October 2018 (UTC)).
The user with the ip address 203.30.216.1 saw fit to state that he/she likes pie in the middle of the article. i deleted it Thunderous503 14:54, 22 August 2006
In the drivers section it says: "Ayrton Senna (when it was called Toleman)". Toleman is a seperate team with a different name and article (even if it eventually became Benetton) so I'm taking this out. Tyrrell drivers aren't listed as BAR drivers even though BAR bought the team. Alexj2002 23:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't see fit to have all those pictures on this page, so I took them out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VincentG ( talk • contribs) 17:27, 4 January 2007 (UTC).
Benetton was registered (presumably its Italian parent company Benetton) under a UK racing license from 1986 to 1995. They then decided to register it under an Italian racing license from 1995 to the end of their ownership. The racing team was correctly listed in both British and Italian categories - I have restored the British ones (And of course the team was based in the UK the whole time!) 4u1e 17:04, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I think Benetton held British licence from 1986 to 1995, then Italian licence from 1996 to 1997 (only 2 seasons), then again British licence from 1998 to 2001. As evidence for my claim I offer links on youtube related to French Grand Prix from 1996 to 2000 seasons. Above Benetton pit garage is clearly visible Italian flag at 1996 French Grand Prix and 1997 French Grand Prix and then British flag from 1998 - 2000 French Grand Prix. Change of nationality from Italian back to British occurred maybe after 1997 season when Italian Flavio Briatore was replaced by British David Richards and team underwent other reorganisation. At 1997 German Grand Prix after Berger win Italian anthem was played on podium for Benetton as Italian constructor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92rfSJimjxw at 8:08 (1996 French Grand Prix and Italian flag) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMX6SuJym-A at 6:06 (1997 French Grand Prix and Italian flag) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjZRPBUDZMo at 13:32 (1998 French Grand Prix and British flag) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8rTAIlS5M at 1:08:16 (1999 French Grand Prix and British flag) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrzusV03fag at 17:32 (2000 French Grand Prix and British flag) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.127.65.38 ( talk) 20:27, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
I was asked to research this by Tvx1 through all my books, and I can clarify that in the Grand Prix Data Book, it says "The combination of Schumacher and intelligent team strategy paid off with both titles in 1995, although they seemed to miss their superstar the following season when the team officially changed their nationality to Italian". I think this is good enough. To clarify British from 1986 to 1995 and Italian from 1996 to 2001. — Gyaro – Maguus— 21:17, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Source for Benetton as Italian until 2001 - http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/23418/benetton-ready-for-today-s-b201-launch/ Lucullus19 ( talk) 19:11, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Brawn left Benetton at the end of 1996, he followed Schumacher he didn't leave with him. Brawn was still the technical director in 1996 with Berger and Alesi. Rory Byrne retired at the end of 1995 and was persuaded to join Ferrari in 1996 for the 1997 season. Darmech 18:26, 30 Oct 2018 (UTC)
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I will revert the last contrib it seems to fail NPOV to me see : http://www.grandprix.com/gt/gt00044.html and http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/cref-czatad.html for more information. Ericd 19:33, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think that the nationality of this team was originaly UK and changed to Italy in 1996 or 1997. But, my memory is not certain. Is it my misunderstanding? -- Morio 21:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
The company that ran Benetton was Benetton Formula Ltd, which is a company in the UK and never from Italy. Italy does not call its companies limited. Private Limited Companies by Quotas are known as società a responsabilità limitata or S.r.l. Even if the Benetton family are Italian. Renault bought the company in 2000 but it was not run as a French constructor until it called its self Renault. ( Darmech ( talk) 18:08, 30 October 2018 (UTC)).
The user with the ip address 203.30.216.1 saw fit to state that he/she likes pie in the middle of the article. i deleted it Thunderous503 14:54, 22 August 2006
In the drivers section it says: "Ayrton Senna (when it was called Toleman)". Toleman is a seperate team with a different name and article (even if it eventually became Benetton) so I'm taking this out. Tyrrell drivers aren't listed as BAR drivers even though BAR bought the team. Alexj2002 23:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't see fit to have all those pictures on this page, so I took them out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VincentG ( talk • contribs) 17:27, 4 January 2007 (UTC).
Benetton was registered (presumably its Italian parent company Benetton) under a UK racing license from 1986 to 1995. They then decided to register it under an Italian racing license from 1995 to the end of their ownership. The racing team was correctly listed in both British and Italian categories - I have restored the British ones (And of course the team was based in the UK the whole time!) 4u1e 17:04, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I think Benetton held British licence from 1986 to 1995, then Italian licence from 1996 to 1997 (only 2 seasons), then again British licence from 1998 to 2001. As evidence for my claim I offer links on youtube related to French Grand Prix from 1996 to 2000 seasons. Above Benetton pit garage is clearly visible Italian flag at 1996 French Grand Prix and 1997 French Grand Prix and then British flag from 1998 - 2000 French Grand Prix. Change of nationality from Italian back to British occurred maybe after 1997 season when Italian Flavio Briatore was replaced by British David Richards and team underwent other reorganisation. At 1997 German Grand Prix after Berger win Italian anthem was played on podium for Benetton as Italian constructor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92rfSJimjxw at 8:08 (1996 French Grand Prix and Italian flag) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMX6SuJym-A at 6:06 (1997 French Grand Prix and Italian flag) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjZRPBUDZMo at 13:32 (1998 French Grand Prix and British flag) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8rTAIlS5M at 1:08:16 (1999 French Grand Prix and British flag) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrzusV03fag at 17:32 (2000 French Grand Prix and British flag) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.127.65.38 ( talk) 20:27, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
I was asked to research this by Tvx1 through all my books, and I can clarify that in the Grand Prix Data Book, it says "The combination of Schumacher and intelligent team strategy paid off with both titles in 1995, although they seemed to miss their superstar the following season when the team officially changed their nationality to Italian". I think this is good enough. To clarify British from 1986 to 1995 and Italian from 1996 to 2001. — Gyaro – Maguus— 21:17, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Source for Benetton as Italian until 2001 - http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/23418/benetton-ready-for-today-s-b201-launch/ Lucullus19 ( talk) 19:11, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Brawn left Benetton at the end of 1996, he followed Schumacher he didn't leave with him. Brawn was still the technical director in 1996 with Berger and Alesi. Rory Byrne retired at the end of 1995 and was persuaded to join Ferrari in 1996 for the 1997 season. Darmech 18:26, 30 Oct 2018 (UTC)