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Despite several editors repeatedly adding this back, none of the sources provided support applying this label to Garrison. In the cited articles the artist is consistently referred to as "pro-Trump" or "libertarian", and these sources recognise that while his works are popular with alt-right circles the artist himself doesn't necessarily share those views. It's notable that the far right have even edited his works to give the impression of support for them, and the author clearly rejects this. To that end I'm struggling to understand the push for this beyond political agenda-pushing. It should be removed. - BirdZilla ( talk) 18:35, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Rfc request: Following the discussion about using "far right", the description of the author has been changed to "alt-right" based on a small subset of sources. However, the majority of sources currently used by the article describe Garrison as either a "libertarian" or "pro-Trump" cartoonist whose work appeals to elements of the alt-right. Much of this is confounded by the fact that the artist's work has been repeatedly edited by third parties to imply support for positions which Garrison publicly rejects (see
this piece as well as the
author's website). How should Garrison be described in the lead? -
BirdZilla (
talk) 16:49, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
The alt-right claimed that such caravans were funded by George Soros, as seen in this nativist cartoon by the libertarian cartoonist Ben Garrison, long a favorite of alt-right provocateurs such as Alex Jones, Mike Cernovich, and Milo Yiannopoulos.
Alt-right cartoonist Ben Garrison had his invitation rescinded after misogynistic and anti-Semitic cartoons surfaced
After being discovered by the worst of the web, Ben Garrison ended up embracing his bad luck. He began to draw cartoons with New Right ideas, earning him acclaim and acceptance.
The article seems to have settled on the "Conservative" label. X-Editor ( talk) 21:36, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Note that the OP, another single purpose account, was topic banned from recent American Politics and stopped editing, at least under that account. Doug Weller talk 09:31, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
There's some material in the lead that's not in the body and that probably should be moved there (some may still have a summary in the lead of course per WP:LEAD). — Paleo Neonate – 08:29, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Ben Garrison has been diagnosed with covid-19. Should this information be added? Is it considered notable or relevant? Is there a Wikipedia policy on this issue?
https://gizmodo.com/anti-vaccine-cartoonist-ben-garrison-says-hes-got-covid-1847749901
What a ridiculous and outright blatant lie to put in an article about something. Alt-right means neonazi, Ben Garrison is an eccentric Libretarian. KingPingPing ( talk) 23:08, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Why should we take Garrison's claims of libel at face value? 2604:CA00:1E9:CBC2:0:0:1261:7C6B ( talk) 15:43, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
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Despite several editors repeatedly adding this back, none of the sources provided support applying this label to Garrison. In the cited articles the artist is consistently referred to as "pro-Trump" or "libertarian", and these sources recognise that while his works are popular with alt-right circles the artist himself doesn't necessarily share those views. It's notable that the far right have even edited his works to give the impression of support for them, and the author clearly rejects this. To that end I'm struggling to understand the push for this beyond political agenda-pushing. It should be removed. - BirdZilla ( talk) 18:35, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Rfc request: Following the discussion about using "far right", the description of the author has been changed to "alt-right" based on a small subset of sources. However, the majority of sources currently used by the article describe Garrison as either a "libertarian" or "pro-Trump" cartoonist whose work appeals to elements of the alt-right. Much of this is confounded by the fact that the artist's work has been repeatedly edited by third parties to imply support for positions which Garrison publicly rejects (see
this piece as well as the
author's website). How should Garrison be described in the lead? -
BirdZilla (
talk) 16:49, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
The alt-right claimed that such caravans were funded by George Soros, as seen in this nativist cartoon by the libertarian cartoonist Ben Garrison, long a favorite of alt-right provocateurs such as Alex Jones, Mike Cernovich, and Milo Yiannopoulos.
Alt-right cartoonist Ben Garrison had his invitation rescinded after misogynistic and anti-Semitic cartoons surfaced
After being discovered by the worst of the web, Ben Garrison ended up embracing his bad luck. He began to draw cartoons with New Right ideas, earning him acclaim and acceptance.
The article seems to have settled on the "Conservative" label. X-Editor ( talk) 21:36, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Note that the OP, another single purpose account, was topic banned from recent American Politics and stopped editing, at least under that account. Doug Weller talk 09:31, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
There's some material in the lead that's not in the body and that probably should be moved there (some may still have a summary in the lead of course per WP:LEAD). — Paleo Neonate – 08:29, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Ben Garrison has been diagnosed with covid-19. Should this information be added? Is it considered notable or relevant? Is there a Wikipedia policy on this issue?
https://gizmodo.com/anti-vaccine-cartoonist-ben-garrison-says-hes-got-covid-1847749901
What a ridiculous and outright blatant lie to put in an article about something. Alt-right means neonazi, Ben Garrison is an eccentric Libretarian. KingPingPing ( talk) 23:08, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Why should we take Garrison's claims of libel at face value? 2604:CA00:1E9:CBC2:0:0:1261:7C6B ( talk) 15:43, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 03:37, 29 July 2022 (UTC)