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Running around the tree with ribbons or strokes of paper reminds me of the may-tree which some villages in the south of the netherlands(where i live) plant in the beginning of may. It is an unusual high (it's very high, 25 meters or something) tree with only some green leaves at the top and it has some ribbons in usually yellow and white hanging from it. It simbolises fertility, just like the beltane feast in Wicca. Thought you might like to know ;) -Gwynn
In his "Stations of the Sun" (Oxford), the British historian Ronald Hutton says the historical record in the British Isles does not support the ribbon-weaving dance as having any greater antiquity than the 1840's or so. People danced around maypoles for many centuries before that, just not doing the ribbon-weaving thing until well into the 19th century...
EarrachApr.17,2007
@ Bargode: you need to put locations and years on these recent additions. You are inserting them as if they are universal, with no era indicated. From what I can tell from the sourcing, all of them are from Co. Westmeath, and relatively late. Some of them may only be local customs. This needs to be indicated. If you can't add this context, they may need to be reverted, as it gives the false impression that late imports of customs to Ireland are possibly native customs. I corrected your conflation of the May Bush/Pole (which you wrote as "May Poll") with the European Maypole, but now you seem to be adding more content that again muddies the waters. Please fix these issues if you want this content included. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 21:24, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Dia dhaoibh, I was looking at this talk page, and I saw that there was a rejected proposal to move the page. I am not really fussed about the title of the page (Although I have always used Bealtaine), but I was thinking that we should at least try for consistency. In the very first line, it contradicts the title of the page and calls the festival Bealtaine, not Beltane. What spelling should be used in the page? If the Gaeilge spelling from the main body of the article is to be kept, I think that the discussion regarding moving the page be reopened.
Edited once for grammar.
Alpha2 5232 ( talk) 08:07, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
Why, when the article is about Celtic festivals, which are named in various Gaelic languages, is the dominant (outsider) Anglo-Saxon culture’s spelling used as the title? Galliv ( talk) 03:39, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
The listed pronunciation in IPA at the start of the article is not what I expected, so I looked at the two sources that are linked. Both of them have a completely different pronunciation. Why are there cites to dictionaries that completely refute the listed pronunciation? I think either the IPA listed should be changed to match the links, or if the IPA listed is "correct", then someone should add cites proving the correctness. Derekt75 ( talk) 17:43, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
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On this day section on 32 dates. show
May 1, 2005,
May 1, 2006,
May 1, 2007,
May 1, 2008,
May 1, 2009,
May 1, 2010,
May 1, 2011,
May 1, 2012,
October 31, 2012,
May 1, 2013,
October 31, 2013,
May 1, 2014,
October 31, 2014,
May 1, 2015,
October 31, 2015,
May 1, 2016,
October 31, 2016,
May 1, 2017,
October 31, 2017,
May 1, 2018,
November 1, 2018,
May 1, 2019,
November 1, 2019,
May 1, 2020,
November 1, 2020,
May 1, 2021,
November 1, 2021,
May 1, 2022,
November 1, 2022,
May 1, 2023,
November 1, 2023, and
May 1, 2024 |
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Running around the tree with ribbons or strokes of paper reminds me of the may-tree which some villages in the south of the netherlands(where i live) plant in the beginning of may. It is an unusual high (it's very high, 25 meters or something) tree with only some green leaves at the top and it has some ribbons in usually yellow and white hanging from it. It simbolises fertility, just like the beltane feast in Wicca. Thought you might like to know ;) -Gwynn
In his "Stations of the Sun" (Oxford), the British historian Ronald Hutton says the historical record in the British Isles does not support the ribbon-weaving dance as having any greater antiquity than the 1840's or so. People danced around maypoles for many centuries before that, just not doing the ribbon-weaving thing until well into the 19th century...
EarrachApr.17,2007
@ Bargode: you need to put locations and years on these recent additions. You are inserting them as if they are universal, with no era indicated. From what I can tell from the sourcing, all of them are from Co. Westmeath, and relatively late. Some of them may only be local customs. This needs to be indicated. If you can't add this context, they may need to be reverted, as it gives the false impression that late imports of customs to Ireland are possibly native customs. I corrected your conflation of the May Bush/Pole (which you wrote as "May Poll") with the European Maypole, but now you seem to be adding more content that again muddies the waters. Please fix these issues if you want this content included. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 21:24, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Dia dhaoibh, I was looking at this talk page, and I saw that there was a rejected proposal to move the page. I am not really fussed about the title of the page (Although I have always used Bealtaine), but I was thinking that we should at least try for consistency. In the very first line, it contradicts the title of the page and calls the festival Bealtaine, not Beltane. What spelling should be used in the page? If the Gaeilge spelling from the main body of the article is to be kept, I think that the discussion regarding moving the page be reopened.
Edited once for grammar.
Alpha2 5232 ( talk) 08:07, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
Why, when the article is about Celtic festivals, which are named in various Gaelic languages, is the dominant (outsider) Anglo-Saxon culture’s spelling used as the title? Galliv ( talk) 03:39, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
The listed pronunciation in IPA at the start of the article is not what I expected, so I looked at the two sources that are linked. Both of them have a completely different pronunciation. Why are there cites to dictionaries that completely refute the listed pronunciation? I think either the IPA listed should be changed to match the links, or if the IPA listed is "correct", then someone should add cites proving the correctness. Derekt75 ( talk) 17:43, 3 April 2023 (UTC)