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On 4 Mar 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Bellevue West High School for a record of the discussion. The outcome, according to User:Rossami was 18 clear delete votes, 12 clear keep votes (with 3 keep votes discounted) and 2 merge votes. There was no clear consensus.
It should be noted that the VfD outcome statement above has been edited by User:GRider. Here is the VfD discussion summary by User:Rossami:
I hope that sheds some light. -- TenOfAllTrades | Talk 20:27, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
If making valid contributions to an article is considered to be "trolling" when there was clearly no consensus to delete or merge, by all means, please take this matter to RfC. -- GRider\ talk 19:01, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
GRider asked me to look at this article.
In terms of policy, there was no clear consensus to delete the article. The admin who deleted it did not act wrongly however, it was a judgment call, and there is no policy that says that once a non-frivilous article is deleted, an article of the same name can't be reposted with significant new material. Remember, there is a stated policy on Wikipedia not to delete if their is any doubt.
As to the article as it stands. it is pretty thin. I think GRider should have a reasonable opportunity to bring it up to a state where it tells us more than that the school is there and simple mundane details. Is the school significant in teaching any of its majors? Does it have special ed courses of significance? And so on. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 20:48, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
In reply to Zero, Rossami did nothing wrong in being bold, and he did not delete the article--indeed he made it plain that his motive was to try to satisfy the majority opinion while not running the chance of losing information (which under GFDL includes editing history).
In reply to Jayjg, I think User:Rossami said that he discounted "2 anons and 1 probable troll" and ended up with 12 keeps and 18 deletes. Even if Rossami did count GRider's vote, this leaves 11 keeps and 18 deletes, which doesn't even satisfy a generous standard of 2/3 for rough consensus. In practice many of us would want considerably more than 2/3 in favor of deletion before we deleted any article on VfD. But I don't want to pre-empt Rossami, he may have an entirely different take on the matter. Why don't you contact him? -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 15:46, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Please stop redirecting this article, it is effectively deleting content contrary to the VfD decision that found there was no consensus to the delete the article. If you strongly feel the content should be expunged from Wikipedia there is no rule against relisting the page on VfD. - SimonP 16:04, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
I'm protecting this (on m:The Wrong Version, obviously!) because this edit war is silly. There's obviously more information on this article than can be crammed into the Bellevue article, so don't even try to justify it. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 01:06, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
To save confusion I'm listing the two VfDs for this article here:
There were more than twice as many keep votes as delete votes in the second VfD. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 00:27, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This article is an excellent example of what can happen when an article is given the opportunity for organic growth. Look how it has expanded one edit prior to the first time it was nominated for deletion. Bahn Mi 07:17, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
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On 4 Mar 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Bellevue West High School for a record of the discussion. The outcome, according to User:Rossami was 18 clear delete votes, 12 clear keep votes (with 3 keep votes discounted) and 2 merge votes. There was no clear consensus.
It should be noted that the VfD outcome statement above has been edited by User:GRider. Here is the VfD discussion summary by User:Rossami:
I hope that sheds some light. -- TenOfAllTrades | Talk 20:27, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
If making valid contributions to an article is considered to be "trolling" when there was clearly no consensus to delete or merge, by all means, please take this matter to RfC. -- GRider\ talk 19:01, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
GRider asked me to look at this article.
In terms of policy, there was no clear consensus to delete the article. The admin who deleted it did not act wrongly however, it was a judgment call, and there is no policy that says that once a non-frivilous article is deleted, an article of the same name can't be reposted with significant new material. Remember, there is a stated policy on Wikipedia not to delete if their is any doubt.
As to the article as it stands. it is pretty thin. I think GRider should have a reasonable opportunity to bring it up to a state where it tells us more than that the school is there and simple mundane details. Is the school significant in teaching any of its majors? Does it have special ed courses of significance? And so on. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 20:48, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
In reply to Zero, Rossami did nothing wrong in being bold, and he did not delete the article--indeed he made it plain that his motive was to try to satisfy the majority opinion while not running the chance of losing information (which under GFDL includes editing history).
In reply to Jayjg, I think User:Rossami said that he discounted "2 anons and 1 probable troll" and ended up with 12 keeps and 18 deletes. Even if Rossami did count GRider's vote, this leaves 11 keeps and 18 deletes, which doesn't even satisfy a generous standard of 2/3 for rough consensus. In practice many of us would want considerably more than 2/3 in favor of deletion before we deleted any article on VfD. But I don't want to pre-empt Rossami, he may have an entirely different take on the matter. Why don't you contact him? -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 15:46, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Please stop redirecting this article, it is effectively deleting content contrary to the VfD decision that found there was no consensus to the delete the article. If you strongly feel the content should be expunged from Wikipedia there is no rule against relisting the page on VfD. - SimonP 16:04, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
I'm protecting this (on m:The Wrong Version, obviously!) because this edit war is silly. There's obviously more information on this article than can be crammed into the Bellevue article, so don't even try to justify it. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 01:06, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
To save confusion I'm listing the two VfDs for this article here:
There were more than twice as many keep votes as delete votes in the second VfD. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 00:27, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This article is an excellent example of what can happen when an article is given the opportunity for organic growth. Look how it has expanded one edit prior to the first time it was nominated for deletion. Bahn Mi 07:17, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
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