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Can anyone provide a source to the ICAO designation for the Bell 407? I've looked everywhere but I cannot seem to find such information. I'm making this request not only to add a little information to the Bell 407 article, but to also create a realistic ATC call for the Bell 407 in Flight Simulator. Srosenow 98 10:02, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Bell 417 → Bell 407 — Overlappngs subject matter, one is a derivitive of the other, and minimal content on each page. - BillCJ 19:22, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
As of today, Bell has not even put the 417 on its website. Until such time as more info becomes available, a dedicated article seems premature. - BillCJ 19:22, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
After 1 week, it is 2-0 in favor of merging. - BillCJ 05:54, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
BillCJ the article has too many photos for the amount of text it has. They are interfering with the page layout and bunching the [edit] tabs. Anynobody 07:53, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone check the values for maximum speed, please? 140 knots = 260 km/h, not 237 km/h. The German entry gives 260 km/h. This would be above cruise speed, which seems reasonable. Peeceepeh 06:14, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Re my edit and revert - Specifically referred to as a FRAHM damper by Bell
http://www.bellcustomer.com/files/Storage/TB%20407-99-14.pdf
There are other references for the 407 at http://www.bellcustomer.com/files/displayCategory.cfm?ID=22 M100 ( talk) 22:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
The intro and the first paragraph of the article say that the 407 is based on the L-4 airframe, but the Development section and Jane's state that it was a 206L-3 that was modified for the development. The reference listed as "Frawley, Civil" apparently claims both and is the source for the seemingly contradictory statements in the Development section. I was wondering if we could get some clarification from the Frawley reference as to which airframe the prototype and/or production aircraft are based on? -- Born2flie ( talk) 16:32, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Bell 407 crashed in Irkutsk Oblast, Russia, killing Irkutsk Oblast Governor Igor Esipovsky. [1] English is not my native language, and I am not confident enough in my grammar to put this information right into article. Please someone fix my grammar errors and add it to article. Hexie ( talk) 20:37, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
References
I added an entry for Fire-X here a few months ago. Here's an update: Aviation Week is reporting that the US Navy has funds to order more MQ-8 Fire Scouts in the 2012 budget request. These include 12 MQ-8Cs, which is the designation for the 407-based Fire-X. The Av Week article is subscription now. I'll look for a free article on this. This entry will probably need to point to Northrop Grumman MQ-8 Fire Scout article later. - Fnlayson ( talk) 18:13, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
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The 407GXP has been around for awhile now and should be added to the article. I hesitate to add anything due to a potential conflict of interest (and more to the point, I don't know much about it). If someone with more experience could update the article, I think that would be a good thing. Here's the Bell page: http://www.bell407gxp.com/ B.Rossow · talk 17:01, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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Born2flie: Nothing on development or operational history. One incident of note was that Harrison Ford conducted a rescue in his Bell 407 of a woman hiker stranded on a mountain. --17:40, 31 December 2006 (UTC) |
Last edited at 00:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 09:22, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
A new 407GXi version that has been certified by US and European regulators. See relevant articles: "Bell 407GXi wins European certification", "US regulator approves Bell 407GXi", "Bell unveils improved 407 variant"
I think this should be mentioned under the GX variant in the Development section or Variants entry. Thoughts? -Fnlayson ( talk) 17:50, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
The NTSB's CAROL database lists well over 100 accident investigations for Investigation mode is "Aviation" and Aircraft make contains "bell" and Aircraft model contains "407". This means the "Accidents" section in the article is either way too short, useless, or superfluous. If we're going to include a subset of accidents, what are the inclusion criteria? -- 31.150.29.138 ( talk) 09:44, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
In the article tailboom is described as being constructed with a carbon composite structure. Per the aircraft manual, this is incorrect. It is actually similar in construction to the 206 series tailboom with an aluminum skin monocoque design. The tail rotor driveshaft cover is composite in the 407 and aluminum in the 206, this might be where the confusion arises. Helidriver21 ( talk) 12:05, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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Can anyone provide a source to the ICAO designation for the Bell 407? I've looked everywhere but I cannot seem to find such information. I'm making this request not only to add a little information to the Bell 407 article, but to also create a realistic ATC call for the Bell 407 in Flight Simulator. Srosenow 98 10:02, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Bell 417 → Bell 407 — Overlappngs subject matter, one is a derivitive of the other, and minimal content on each page. - BillCJ 19:22, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
As of today, Bell has not even put the 417 on its website. Until such time as more info becomes available, a dedicated article seems premature. - BillCJ 19:22, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
After 1 week, it is 2-0 in favor of merging. - BillCJ 05:54, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
BillCJ the article has too many photos for the amount of text it has. They are interfering with the page layout and bunching the [edit] tabs. Anynobody 07:53, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone check the values for maximum speed, please? 140 knots = 260 km/h, not 237 km/h. The German entry gives 260 km/h. This would be above cruise speed, which seems reasonable. Peeceepeh 06:14, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Re my edit and revert - Specifically referred to as a FRAHM damper by Bell
http://www.bellcustomer.com/files/Storage/TB%20407-99-14.pdf
There are other references for the 407 at http://www.bellcustomer.com/files/displayCategory.cfm?ID=22 M100 ( talk) 22:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
The intro and the first paragraph of the article say that the 407 is based on the L-4 airframe, but the Development section and Jane's state that it was a 206L-3 that was modified for the development. The reference listed as "Frawley, Civil" apparently claims both and is the source for the seemingly contradictory statements in the Development section. I was wondering if we could get some clarification from the Frawley reference as to which airframe the prototype and/or production aircraft are based on? -- Born2flie ( talk) 16:32, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Bell 407 crashed in Irkutsk Oblast, Russia, killing Irkutsk Oblast Governor Igor Esipovsky. [1] English is not my native language, and I am not confident enough in my grammar to put this information right into article. Please someone fix my grammar errors and add it to article. Hexie ( talk) 20:37, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
References
I added an entry for Fire-X here a few months ago. Here's an update: Aviation Week is reporting that the US Navy has funds to order more MQ-8 Fire Scouts in the 2012 budget request. These include 12 MQ-8Cs, which is the designation for the 407-based Fire-X. The Av Week article is subscription now. I'll look for a free article on this. This entry will probably need to point to Northrop Grumman MQ-8 Fire Scout article later. - Fnlayson ( talk) 18:13, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
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The 407GXP has been around for awhile now and should be added to the article. I hesitate to add anything due to a potential conflict of interest (and more to the point, I don't know much about it). If someone with more experience could update the article, I think that would be a good thing. Here's the Bell page: http://www.bell407gxp.com/ B.Rossow · talk 17:01, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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Born2flie: Nothing on development or operational history. One incident of note was that Harrison Ford conducted a rescue in his Bell 407 of a woman hiker stranded on a mountain. --17:40, 31 December 2006 (UTC) |
Last edited at 00:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 09:22, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
A new 407GXi version that has been certified by US and European regulators. See relevant articles: "Bell 407GXi wins European certification", "US regulator approves Bell 407GXi", "Bell unveils improved 407 variant"
I think this should be mentioned under the GX variant in the Development section or Variants entry. Thoughts? -Fnlayson ( talk) 17:50, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
The NTSB's CAROL database lists well over 100 accident investigations for Investigation mode is "Aviation" and Aircraft make contains "bell" and Aircraft model contains "407". This means the "Accidents" section in the article is either way too short, useless, or superfluous. If we're going to include a subset of accidents, what are the inclusion criteria? -- 31.150.29.138 ( talk) 09:44, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
In the article tailboom is described as being constructed with a carbon composite structure. Per the aircraft manual, this is incorrect. It is actually similar in construction to the 206 series tailboom with an aluminum skin monocoque design. The tail rotor driveshaft cover is composite in the 407 and aluminum in the 206, this might be where the confusion arises. Helidriver21 ( talk) 12:05, 9 November 2023 (UTC)