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I've written this article to replace the original stub. The paraphrase of the confession is my own, based on the Afrikaans version. The rest of the text has been researched on web sites doing searches for "belhar belydenis" and "belhar confession". I don't have time to add references, but the factual content is accurate and verifiable, for they have been gleaned from web sites speaking out in favour of the confession. Unfortunately there is no indication that either the Afrikaans or the English full text of the confession is public domain or GPL, so we can't use it here unless we paragphrase it (as I have done). leuce 17:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
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...but with no references. I think a section on which churches had accepted it (and when) is useful. -- 77.168.195.155 ( talk) 08:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I did some research. The URCSA's press release is here: http://www.kerkweb.org/node/1339. The URCSA claims that the following churches had adopted the Belhar Confession or were close to doing so, but... the truth is:
-- leuce ( talk) 19:47, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
I am most familiar with the churches in the USA, and it's not quite correct to say there's "no evidence of adoption". Especially in Reformed churches, one may not find all of the confessions listed on a "Who We Are" page designed for the general public. "Adoption" is a problematic term, particularly in churches with a presbyterian form of government, since confessions have constitutional status and have a ratification process with multiple steps.
Flycandler ( talk) 19:05, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
This can't be serious. The article has been around a couple of years now, but there is no section for criticism of this document? This is somehow suspect in the light of the fact that the document is considered highly controversial in South Africa itself. The criticism moving ranging from seeing the document as theologically dubious towards being a piece of cryptomarxist propaganda, while some will point out the dishonesty and bias of what is written in between. -- 41.151.79.237 ( talk) 20:37, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
This section was copied almost directly from another source (unknown) not cited. I move it here so that it can be mined for information.
Section block of text copied mostly unedited from an unknown source. This could be reformatted as an "Adoption of" section for the URCSA.
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I've written this article to replace the original stub. The paraphrase of the confession is my own, based on the Afrikaans version. The rest of the text has been researched on web sites doing searches for "belhar belydenis" and "belhar confession". I don't have time to add references, but the factual content is accurate and verifiable, for they have been gleaned from web sites speaking out in favour of the confession. Unfortunately there is no indication that either the Afrikaans or the English full text of the confession is public domain or GPL, so we can't use it here unless we paragphrase it (as I have done). leuce 17:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Someone added this:
...but with no references. I think a section on which churches had accepted it (and when) is useful. -- 77.168.195.155 ( talk) 08:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I did some research. The URCSA's press release is here: http://www.kerkweb.org/node/1339. The URCSA claims that the following churches had adopted the Belhar Confession or were close to doing so, but... the truth is:
-- leuce ( talk) 19:47, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
I am most familiar with the churches in the USA, and it's not quite correct to say there's "no evidence of adoption". Especially in Reformed churches, one may not find all of the confessions listed on a "Who We Are" page designed for the general public. "Adoption" is a problematic term, particularly in churches with a presbyterian form of government, since confessions have constitutional status and have a ratification process with multiple steps.
Flycandler ( talk) 19:05, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
This can't be serious. The article has been around a couple of years now, but there is no section for criticism of this document? This is somehow suspect in the light of the fact that the document is considered highly controversial in South Africa itself. The criticism moving ranging from seeing the document as theologically dubious towards being a piece of cryptomarxist propaganda, while some will point out the dishonesty and bias of what is written in between. -- 41.151.79.237 ( talk) 20:37, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
This section was copied almost directly from another source (unknown) not cited. I move it here so that it can be mined for information.
Section block of text copied mostly unedited from an unknown source. This could be reformatted as an "Adoption of" section for the URCSA.
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