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Like so much on wikipedia, the article is all wrong.
I have a 78 (if anyone here knows what that means) circa 1920 having the lyrics which are sort of described here. The writer should have admitted that he didn't have all the lyrics, but the gist of it is . . . .
Wikipedia needs two in the hat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.91.180.148 ( talk) 16:07, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
According to the article for the band, this song was released in 1958, not 1920. If so, that is a song by another artist.-- Auric talk 23:35, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Is there a way to determine the length of this song? I checked the Discogs page which has "2:18-3:12" over 114 tracks. The earliest track with a length is from 1961 at 3:04.-- Auric talk 23:31, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Also the information at the Discography section of The Playmates has "3:01".-- Auric talk 23:41, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
On 21 July, Auric ( talk · contribs) added album, release year, genre, legnth, and label claims with any citations to reliable sources. I removed them, noting such; they reverted my edit saying "verified from the image; removed length - multiple values found". There's a few problems here: (a) Holiday56 ( talk · contribs) uploaded the image, and they they are not a reliable source. (b) If verifiable, the photo in the article would be a primary source, which we should eschew for secondary. (c) Auric also replaced the album, release year, and genre claims, which still have no verification to reliable sources.
The verifiability policy says that "all material must be attributable to reliable, published sources. Additionally, quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by inline citations." That includes this article. — fourthords | =Λ= | 15:06, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
Primary sources can be reliable, and they can be used. Sometimes, a primary source is even the best possible source, such as when you are supporting a direct quotation. In such cases, the original document is the best source because the original document will be free of any errors or misquotations introduced by subsequent sources.
The image File:Beep Beep - The Playmates.jpg is alleged to be an image of this song's phonograph record. It's sourced to 45rpms.com, which doesn't strike me as a reliable source. Furthermore, the sourced prose in the article doesn't mention this pressing at all, which is supposed to be "from the album At Play with the Playmates". I don't trust the provenance of this image, it doesn't relate to the single as sourced in the article, and Wikipedia:Verifiability requires that "all material must be attributable to reliable, published sources [… and that] any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by inline citations." Therefore, I removed it on those grounds. At 03:42 on 13 September 2019, JGabbard ( talk · contribs) reverted my edit as "baseless". I welcome the input of editors on the "baselessness" of applying the verifiability policy. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 04:14, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
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Like so much on wikipedia, the article is all wrong.
I have a 78 (if anyone here knows what that means) circa 1920 having the lyrics which are sort of described here. The writer should have admitted that he didn't have all the lyrics, but the gist of it is . . . .
Wikipedia needs two in the hat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.91.180.148 ( talk) 16:07, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
According to the article for the band, this song was released in 1958, not 1920. If so, that is a song by another artist.-- Auric talk 23:35, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Is there a way to determine the length of this song? I checked the Discogs page which has "2:18-3:12" over 114 tracks. The earliest track with a length is from 1961 at 3:04.-- Auric talk 23:31, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Also the information at the Discography section of The Playmates has "3:01".-- Auric talk 23:41, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
On 21 July, Auric ( talk · contribs) added album, release year, genre, legnth, and label claims with any citations to reliable sources. I removed them, noting such; they reverted my edit saying "verified from the image; removed length - multiple values found". There's a few problems here: (a) Holiday56 ( talk · contribs) uploaded the image, and they they are not a reliable source. (b) If verifiable, the photo in the article would be a primary source, which we should eschew for secondary. (c) Auric also replaced the album, release year, and genre claims, which still have no verification to reliable sources.
The verifiability policy says that "all material must be attributable to reliable, published sources. Additionally, quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by inline citations." That includes this article. — fourthords | =Λ= | 15:06, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
Primary sources can be reliable, and they can be used. Sometimes, a primary source is even the best possible source, such as when you are supporting a direct quotation. In such cases, the original document is the best source because the original document will be free of any errors or misquotations introduced by subsequent sources.
The image File:Beep Beep - The Playmates.jpg is alleged to be an image of this song's phonograph record. It's sourced to 45rpms.com, which doesn't strike me as a reliable source. Furthermore, the sourced prose in the article doesn't mention this pressing at all, which is supposed to be "from the album At Play with the Playmates". I don't trust the provenance of this image, it doesn't relate to the single as sourced in the article, and Wikipedia:Verifiability requires that "all material must be attributable to reliable, published sources [… and that] any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by inline citations." Therefore, I removed it on those grounds. At 03:42 on 13 September 2019, JGabbard ( talk · contribs) reverted my edit as "baseless". I welcome the input of editors on the "baselessness" of applying the verifiability policy. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 04:14, 13 September 2019 (UTC)